MrSMW Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I can't see there be anything 'RED' in the Z6iii unless there was something going on behind the scenes, at least 6-12 months back. Certainly nothing 'innovative', but what do I know... I suspect the future of this is RED raw in certain future Nikon hybrid cameras and a Z Mount option for whatever future RED bodies there may be. I suspect that is about as 'exciting' as this gets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Django said: That seems most likely. Canon cine lenses have PL options and thats Nikons historical competitor.. Would Nikon go to such a small niche market like this, that is PL mount lens. I personally think they envision a Sony like lineup from red in the future. Option one would be to start just above the z9 price bracket with a new Komodo directly in competition with the Sony FX6. A 6k global shutter camera with a video camera form factor with XLR input, timecode etc. but this time it would include Nikon super good autofocus, Stabilization, CFexpress memory, Z mount and if possible internal ND. I don't know if their is enough space for the later. This type of camera, will be the type of high volume camera, that Nikon can use to make with little change some Cine like Z mount lens, because lets not forget, while the Z mount are the most adaptable lens mount, the Z lens are the least because of this. Davide DB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davide DB Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/14/2024 at 1:56 PM, Danyyyel said: because lets not forget, while the Z mount are the most adaptable lens mount, the Z lens are the least because of this. could you elaborate on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 27 minutes ago, Davide DB said: could you elaborate on this? I think it's because Z-mount has the shortest flange to sensor distance of the common mirrorless mounts. So it's possible to make a (2mm thick!) E-mount to Z-mount adaptor e.g. the Megadap one, but not the other way round. Davide DB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 You can adapt pretty much adapt anything and everything to Z Mount except L Mount and even convert what are otherwise manual focus Leica lenses to become AF lenses. OK, regarding the latter, it's not amazing AF, but at least something...though not something that especially interests me and I prefer the native manual focus options for Z that were previously primarily L Mount only, from Voigtlander. E Mount lenses on Z bodies with an ultra thin adapter is great though! Nikon have a range of 'native' lenses that are essentially rebranded older gen Tamron E Mount lenses, but I prefer the newer gen myself. Davide DB and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Latest spec seems to suggest 24mp for the Z6iii allowing it to be 6k capable. The question is whether that will be cropped 6k or not… 6k 50/60p uncropped internal? Is that asking too much? I think it would be a requirement for me… I’m more interested to see if there is going to be a Z7iii with 60+mp sensor. Not for video and not because I need or want more mp for the sake of mp, but because it would allow me to replace 2x bodies and 3x lenses with a single body plus 2x lens set up and that is worth dealing with the extra file sizes to me. It looks like the Z6iii at least will be announced next month, ie, April… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 6 hours ago, MrSMW said: 6k 50/60p uncropped internal? Is that asking too much? 6k60p at 16:9 and 6k30p open gate was mentioned in almost all different rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 On 3/29/2024 at 7:41 AM, MrSMW said: It looks like the Z6iii at least will be announced next month, ie, April… Well that aged well 🤪 Latest is June 11th as a potential announcement date with availability some time after, but I’d hope within a month or so? Seems quite positive from some of the more reliable sources, but we shall see… I am going to preorder because I am pretty sure it will be what I am looking for… I am 4 jobs deep into the 2024 season and the combo of S1H and S5ii are doing the business on the video side and the Nikon bodies (Zf + Z6ii) with adapted Tamron glass, doing it for stills, but… …one too many bodies and I’d like the performance of the Zf in the Z6ii style body as a single body lens platform. I’ve gone back and forth over the Z8 or Z9 and I can make a case for either except I think the Z9 is just that bit too big and heavy, but I prefer it’s spec and capability over the Z8. We shall see, but I really can’t see there being a better option for my needs and all the Z6iii needs to be is, as a minimum, the Zf spec in a Z6ii style body and if it’s slightly bigger and heavier, great. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 40 minutes ago, MrSMW said: Well that aged well 🤪 You've got to be on top of your game to make predictions that stand up over time.. 44 minutes ago, MrSMW said: I am 4 jobs deep into the 2024 season and the combo of S1H and S5ii are doing the business on the video side and the Nikon bodies (Zf + Z6ii) with adapted Tamron glass, doing it for stills, but… …one too many bodies and I’d like the performance of the Zf in the Z6ii style body as a single body lens platform. I’ve gone back and forth over the Z8 or Z9 and I can make a case for either except I think the Z9 is just that bit too big and heavy, but I prefer it’s spec and capability over the Z8. We shall see, but I really can’t see there being a better option for my needs and all the Z6iii needs to be is, as a minimum, the Zf spec in a Z6ii style body and if it’s slightly bigger and heavier, great. Just rebrand and shoot with iPhone 15... if you want to get serious then you can get fancy and rig with handle, SSD, NDs and USB power bank, but it's only weddings so no need to go nuts. eatstoomuchjam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 21 minutes ago, kye said: Just rebrand and shoot with iPhone 15... if you want to get serious then you can get fancy and rig with handle, SSD, NDs and USB power bank, but it's only weddings so no need to go nuts. Ha, you jest but actually, since 2010 when I first started making tentative moves into 'hybrid' coverage, I have probably considered it if not actually tried it. Every time someone says, "have you considered...", yep, let me stop you there, that was yet another dead end 🤪 As I have mentioned elsewhere before, there is more than one way to skin a cat (other animals also), but actually very few that are 'The Best' way to do something and with no handbook available, trials, error (a lot) and expense, have been involved. But I can say that other than my own need to move from 4 units to 3, I have finally nailed it. Nailed it as far as I am concerned for what I set out to achieve. Could it be improved? Margins... 2x stills units down to a single unit (for stills) is the last significant 'final change' for me but beyond that, at some point, the video units as in bodies + lenses, could be reduced in size as the S1H with battery grip plus f4 70-200 on a Manfrotto tripod is something of a beast! My future ideal, whilst not a necessity, but rather a wish, would be that all 3 units as far as bodies go, become identical for ergonomic and logistical reasons, one set of the same battery etc. That could happen with swapping the 2x LUMIX units for 2 further Z6iii's as I already have the lenses so would be a relatively low cost scenario. But not a 2024 one. I can make small(er) changes mid season, but wholesale change is too much. The only other thing I want to do this year is pick up another RODE WG2 so I can move on from having to sync audio to the main footage that is using the primary WG2 set up I already have, ie, be able to mic up 4 people speaking feeding into 2 camera units instead of the current 2 into 1 plus random recorders in pockets, clipped to dresses etc. Apart from that, as The Purple One says, I'm done. kye and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Verco Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Well now I have the z8 for stills I just need them to put the z8 in a cine body (fx3 or komodox) with internal NDs, open gate, and a better log curve. IronFilm and ac6000cw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Internal ND will be a genuine game changer when it comes to hybrid capture. It’s the single biggest thing IMO that has prevented this form of capture from really taking off as everything else is a workaround. gt3rs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 Updated specs: - New processing engine (EXPEED 7?) - 37-120min record time - Updated focus algorithm (better than ℤ8/ℤ9?) - Near 100% AF coverage of the frame - The playback button is in the same place as ℤ8 (bottom right), as opposed to ℤ6II, which is on the top left side of the camera - Weight: 700-750g - Price: around €3,000 in Europe (less in the US) - A new version of Nikon NX Studio with support for the ℤ6 III is expected to be released soon _____________ The price hike and new version of software to support indicates its totally new sensor. But interestingly they don't mention "stacked". I don't understand why new processor and why now? Nikon tends to upgrade its Expeed with the flagship, not with a midranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 37-120 minute record time is interesting… What if I want to record for only 36 minutes? Expeed 7 is already in 3 Nikon bodies so nothing exactly ‘new’ there and a default option at this time surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 22 hours ago, MrSMW said: 37-120 minute record time is interesting… What if I want to record for only 36 minutes? Expeed 7 is already in 3 Nikon bodies so nothing exactly ‘new’ there and a default option at this time surely? 37 mins minimum. The days of 2s clips when accidentally double-pressing the record button are finally over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, kye said: 37 mins minimum. The days of 2s clips when accidentally double-pressing the record button are finally over! Well I guess I’ll just ask them to keep repeating the confetti run until the camera says so, or possibly ask them to immediately go cut the cake, do their first dance, play with some sparklers and then hope the firework show is extra long 👍 kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 6/6/2024 at 7:14 PM, MrSMW said: 37-120 minute record time is interesting… What if I want to record for only 36 minutes? Maybe 37 minutes is the limit for 8K recording? But 4K can do 120 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 37 minutes is probably the longest you can record 6k raw. Most of the heat comes from CFexpress card, and highest bit rate is at 6k raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlfan Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 does z6 iii have s16 mode? z mount is shorter than c mount. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 No one knows other than Nikon. Or anyone out there testing a pre-production model, but no indications that that is even happening. It can’t be far off though surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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