Emanuel Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 New Optoma models also to come... :-) webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Are there cheaper high brightness beamers out there already? I am waiting on that revolution. I want 10000 lumens brightness beamers, but at 300€ price range. Dont care about the resolution though, 720p is all good here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hitting up Amazon suggests the answer is no: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_price-asc-rank?keywords=10000+lumens+projector&fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A300334%2Ck%3A10000+lumens+projector%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A3235178011&qid=1517926773&sort=price-asc-rank (although, there is only one on Amazon with that level of rated brightness, and it is the most expensive one! Over $20K) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 hours ago, zerocool22 said: Are there cheaper high brightness beamers out there already? I am waiting on that revolution. I want 10000 lumens brightness beamers, but at 300€ price range. Dont care about the resolution though, 720p is all good here. LOL Well... not me, man : ) I use TV or switch off the lights for... dark and a good film experience. Let's take the example of a film vs TV setup for shooting: one camera angle vs multicamera ; ) Lights is (no pun intended) for... :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Haha yeah Im not looking into one for watching films. But I use beamers/projectors to light stuff at times, and the brighter they are the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 So it''s a 1080p projector pretending to be 4k, wow wohoo, nothing but a scam move along. Pretty sure ppl would feel cheated if Panasonic marketed it's G9 as a 80MP camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 6 hours ago, no_connection said: So it''s a 1080p projector pretending to be 4k, wow wohoo, nothing but a scam move along. Pretty sure ppl would feel cheated if Panasonic marketed it's G9 as a 80MP camera. So their "True 4K UHD 8.3M Pixel resolution"* is BS to your book? * http://www.benq.us/product/projector/HT2550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 @no_connection Proof? 9 hours ago, zerocool22 said: Haha yeah Im not looking into one for watching films. But I use beamers/projectors to light stuff at times, and the brighter they are the better. Maybe you’re looking for something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, jonpais said: Maybe you’re looking for something like this? Ha! But more seriously, if a person wants a very strong projector at a low cost maybe buy a cheapie then swap out for a stronger LED themselves?? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-DIY-1080p-HD-projector-120W-high-lumen-10000-10-7-diy-replace-projector-led/32816906185.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.137.57f51530x2qXXa&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10344_10068_10547_10342_10343_10340_10548_10341_10084_10083_10618_10307_5722315_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_442_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=4864ef99-5476-4392-b1d5-5a8b444dcd01-18&algo_pvid=4864ef99-5476-4392-b1d5-5a8b444dcd01&priceBeautifyAB=0 hansel and zerocool22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 @IronFilm that’s one impressive link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Emanuel said: So their "True 4K UHD 8.3M Pixel resolution"* is BS to your book? * http://www.benq.us/product/projector/HT2550 It's a 1080p chip moved 4 times so yes it's BS in my book. I'm sure it does a decent job at it, and it probably looks good due to the very high refresh rate that requires (since it display 4 1080 images after each other every frame). It's not like you would notice the difference in sharpness, they do have a setting for that. <- mix between sarcasm and reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Some cameras use pixel shift technology to deliver outstandingly detailed images as well. So not bs in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 My BenQ projector broke down after only a couple of years. Very disappointing quality. Ballast malfunctioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seku Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 so this thing does pixel shift 4times it size AND is single-chip DLP (which means it needs to expose each color seperately). so if we take 60hz input, we would need at least 4x3x60hz = 720hz on the DLP chip? Fast little bugger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 hours ago, jonpais said: @no_connection Proof? Maybe you’re looking for something like this? No, You can light people with a beamer with patterns, all colors you want, you can even create a strobe with it. So for me its a highly effective tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 It's waaaaay more advanced than that, since a DMD is a 1bit device it needs to make a 10bit image out if that exposing different mirrors different amount of time, And with that you have a color wheel that shows different colors at different times over the dmd and so on. One method is to binary flash images with different time duration, so one that lasts half the frame then next one half that then half that until you have 10bit. You quickly run out of time to get those last bits mind you. So they have to do more tricks than that. I would have been less bugged if it was a 1080p with super resolution and they told you about it's advantages and disadvantaged and how they achieve it. One big advantage should be less screen door since pixels do overlap a bit, one big negative is the fun border around it and less contrast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 hours ago, IronFilm said: Ha! But more seriously, if a person wants a very strong projector at a low cost maybe buy a cheapie then swap out for a stronger LED themselves?? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-DIY-1080p-HD-projector-120W-high-lumen-10000-10-7-diy-replace-projector-led/32816906185.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.137.57f51530x2qXXa&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10344_10068_10547_10342_10343_10340_10548_10341_10084_10083_10618_10307_5722315_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_441_10624_442_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=4864ef99-5476-4392-b1d5-5a8b444dcd01-18&algo_pvid=4864ef99-5476-4392-b1d5-5a8b444dcd01&priceBeautifyAB=0 This is very Interesting! Any link to a tutorial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted February 7, 2018 I use an Epson TW7300 for my faux K cinema projector It has been faultless... amazing image quality... way better than the much respected Sony VPL-HW65ES which I tested alongside it. The 4K upscaling really does work well at the viewing distances necessary for such a large projection on a wall. Eyeball the screen and you can see it isn't real 4K but only a severely unbalanced drug user would do that during Blade Runner. PS... 10,000 lumen?! What are you on?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Everyone talks about landing on the the moon, but nobody talks about landing on the sun. The sun would have those 10k lumens he's lookin' for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 8, 2018 Administrators Share Posted February 8, 2018 Elon Musk should have sent his car to orbit the sun instead... drive through cinema with 10k lumens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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