Canon 1DC vs Canon 5D Mark IV

[DaveAltizer 702]

30 minutes ago, raf702 said:

Which is a good B-camera for slow-mo 60fps. That's my concern, since the 1DC has poor 1080-60p.

I have 1DC and 80D with EOSHD CLOG and it’s a great B Cam with 1080 60p plus the AF is great 

[raf702 31]

Just now, DaveAltizer said:

I have 1DC and 80D with EOSHD CLOG and it’s a great B Cam with 1080 60p plus the AF is great 

Awesome, I will look into that!

[raf702 31]

5D3 ML raw, could be another good option for 60p ??

[Ollywood88 10]

Its not too bad, it is just a little soft. great for dream like sequences but intercut with the 4k will look soft. 

Yeah any other dslr, I use the c500 as our A Cam for the 2k 60fps.

 

[raf702 31]

11 hours ago, Ollywood88 said:

Its not too bad, it is just a little soft. great for dream like sequences but intercut with the 4k will look soft. 

Yeah any other dslr, I use the c500 as our A Cam for the 2k 60fps.

 

I see, what other B-cam options would you suggest?

[Ollywood88 10]

B Cam to match Canon's profiles 1dx Mark 2 (Pricey) Canon 5d4 or 5d 3. 

The Sony a7 series will be hard to match colour profiles, unless you do quite a lot of tests. 

[Dunjoye 64]

New project I am working on 

Straight out of the Can. 

Gosh I still love the 1dc.  (4k pull out). This camera was ahead of its time..

[DaveAltizer 702]

8 hours ago, Dunjoye said:

New project I am working on 

Straight out of the Can. 

Gosh I still love the 1dc.  (4k pull out). This camera was ahead of its time..

Yup. Still hasn't been beat. Literally...nothing else can beat the camera in 2017 from canon. 1DX II is a little bit of a downgrade...but Im considering selling my 1DC for one just for the dual pixel AF. 

[Dunjoye 64]

13 minutes ago, DaveAltizer said:

Yup. Still hasn't been beat. Literally...nothing else can beat the camera in 2017 from canon. 1DX II is a little bit of a downgrade...but Im considering selling my 1DC for one just for the dual pixel AF. 

I hear ya on the dual pixel AF point. Pulling focus on this needed a bit more attention to detail. 

I think even at baked profiles, the 1dc still has a better roll off and mojo that the 1dx doesn't have.

It's magic. I have upgrading considered the 1dxmkii so many times. But its not the same when I shoot with it.

[DaveAltizer 702]

9 hours ago, Dunjoye said:

I hear ya on the dual pixel AF point. Pulling focus on this needed a bit more attention to detail. 

I think even at baked profiles, the 1dc still has a better roll off and mojo that the 1dx doesn't have.

It's magic. I have upgrading considered the 1dxmkii so many times. But its not the same when I shoot with it.

Ahhhh! You’re not making it easy for me! Lol.

[Ollywood88 10]

Guys, Love this 

@dunjoye 

 I shot this with The Canon C500 IN 1080p and the Canon 1DC. It is such a special camera.

I was also looking at selling for the 4k 60p auto focus of the Canon 1DX 2. If the 1DX 2 just had that lovely super 35mm mode I would be gone. 

Still love my 1DC. 

[Ty Harper 56]

Anyone know how well the MK IV and 1DC cut together?

[webrunner5 2,459]

3 hours ago, Ty Harper said:

Anyone know how well the MK IV and 1DC cut together?

Well they have the same basic Codec so I would think not too hard?? Maybe really easy.

[Ty Harper 56]

Yeah figure so but actual confirmation is always good :-)

I've got a 1DC and a 5D MKIII and although I know many have written the MK IV off I''m really leaning towards just picking one up once the price gets in sub $2K/used range.

I know the cropped 4K sucks and all that but it's really the DPAF that I want. 

[DaveAltizer 702]

I can confirm that 5d iv 4k is almost identical to the 1dx ii and 1dc 4k. Just have that heavy crop

[webrunner5 2,459]

On 12/20/2017 at 1:22 PM, DaveAltizer said:

I can confirm that 5d iv 4k is almost identical to the 1dx ii and 1dc 4k. Just have that heavy crop

I would easily believe the 5d iv 4k is almost identical to the 1dx ii 4k, but as good a the 1DC 4k, hmm. I am sure they are not miles apart but I don't really think Anything is as good as a 1DC output wise.

[Dunjoye 64]

On 18/12/2017 at 11:51 PM, Ollywood88 said:

Guys, Love this 

@dunjoye 

 I shot this with The Canon C500 IN 1080p and the Canon 1DC. It is such a special camera.

I was also looking at selling for the 4k 60p auto focus of the Canon 1DX 2. If the 1DX 2 just had that lovely super 35mm mode I would be gone. 

Still love my 1DC. 

C500 &The 1dc work hand in hand so well.  For 2k 60p and 4k the c500 is worth  checking out. I have seen them going for £3k used.

[Ty Harper 56]

2 hours ago, Dunjoye said:

C500 &The 1dc work hand in hand so well.  For 2k 60p and 4k the c500 is worth  checking out. I have seen them going for £3k used.

Agreed! But I honestly can't see myself ever shelling out that type of money for a camera that doesn't have DPAF (unless I'm mistaken the C500 doesn't have it right?).

I also can't see myself ever going back to that more traditional form factor (I used a C300 as a producer daily a couple years back and I'm assuming the C500 has a similar feel and heft).

I'm in the minority but so far I prefer the ability to build up a dslr around a cage system and strip it down when needed.

[DaveAltizer 702]

Ive done tests and have found when it comes to baked in profiles the 5DIV actually appears to have better IQ than 1DC. I should do a real review/test and see. I haven't tested the 5DIV Canon Log yet. Im sure its great

[IronFilm 3,085]

On 12/22/2017 at 7:36 PM, Ty Harper said:

Agreed! But I honestly can't see myself ever shelling out that type of money for a camera that doesn't have DPAF (unless I'm mistaken the C500 doesn't have it right?).

 

For a camera with 4K raw plus many more features, that price doesn't seem so bad. 

I'll admit on rare occasion I look at their prices and get tempted myself...