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  1. Thanks although some of those solutions don't seem available any longer (anker 45w power bank).

    Again what are the exact 8K60p power requirements? I know we've discussed this earlier in the thread but I don't feel like going through +35 pages lol.

    As for the Z8, it is great that it can power 8K60p from its internal battery but yeah I've seen some 8K tests getting the camera to overheat in 10mn which is a concern. Other test show 25mn. I think the Z9 doesn't overheat and with second hand prices being around what a Z8 costs I think Z9 might be actually be a better choice if you don't mind the weight too much.

  2. On 7/2/2023 at 1:13 PM, gt3rs said:

    As I shot 90% RAW (25,50) and 10% xfavc 4k 120 ….it is still THE issue for me, no 8k 50 with grip and forced to use the usb port. A dummy dtap battery with the right voltage or a new grip would solve the isse but nobody offere these…. I don’t mind using a small vmount battery but the usb port is a real pita….

    So still currently only USB-C battery solution in order to use for 8K50p? What's the voltage needed and what options are out there?

  3. On 8/1/2023 at 5:13 PM, gethin said:

    well after a day of cutting z8 and mavic 3 footage, I'm wondering what the hell I'm doing. I stumbled on some phantom 4 pro stuff I shot a few year ago and honestly its less noisy, has better highlight rolloff, but most of all it was quicker: That's the thing I'm increasingly thinking. Maybe I can improve on what I was doing 3 years ago, but only a bit, if at all, and at what time cost? If I have to denoise every shot, and mask windows to try to squeak some highlights in from outside, for a marginal improvement in a sector where I'm competing with people charging $200 and shooting on an iphone. I've seen some of the HDR iphone footage and its pretty amazing.   

    As others have stated the AI/computational stuff you get from phones, drones etc shouldn't be compared to what you're getting raw from a mirrorless cam. It's definitely going to take more work in post and more effort during shooting to get there.

    FYI Z9 recently got a 4.0 FW update that adds a low (100) ISO mode to N-log. Early reports suggest noise is gone. This firmware should be coming very soon to Z8 and hopefully be a bit of a game changer when it comes to noise issues with N-log.

  4. Here is a short blurb about Canon's various IS systems: 

    https://www.canon.co.uk/pro/infobank/image-stabilisation-lenses/

    I really think IBIS + OIS grants excel results on Canon systems.

    Not a big fan of EIS in general as it crops the image but IBIS+OIS+EIS is almost gimbal like.

    I agree with @gt3rs about sensor size + focal length having a great influence on IS. 

    Not to mention action cams are rarely handheld so really not a great basis for comparison.

    Anyways, another IS question for those owning R5 & R5C: do you notice a big difference in stills?

    The image results I got from the R5's IBIS + RF 24-70mm f2.8 IS were just so sharp even at lower shutter speeds.

    According to that Canon article that specific combo enables 8-stops of IS.

    Should I expect much worst photography results if I were to go with R5C? I'm just a little worried because at 45MP sharpness really matters.

     

     

     

  5. 4 hours ago, gt3rs said:

    Probably for @Django the question would be how well it compares R5+IBIS+RF 24-70 vs R5C + RF 27-70, handheld both static and walking. Unfortunately I don't have an RF 24-70.... but once I should try with the RF 35 1.8 IS to see...

     

    Yeah I'm interested in knowing how R5+IBIS compares to R5C + lens IS mostly for handheld static shots and some slow movement. The best results I've had so far with the 24-70mm is with R3 thanks to that bodies weight distribution and ergonomics with the vertical grip. 

    Would love to know your assessment of the R5 vs R5C with the RF 35mm IS. Let me know here when you try that!

    3 hours ago, Ilkka Nissila said:

    IBIS with non-CPU lenses works if you type in the focal length and maximum aperture into the list of non-CPU lenses that you use. This includes mechanical-only lenses that don't have electrical contacts.

     

    https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/z8/en/sum_non-cpu_lens_data_guid-fac0444d-3965-c25a-4c18-84574cb10167_285.html

     

    After typing in the data for the non-CPU lenses, you can then select from the list the actual one that you are using and the data is recalled. This can be programmed to a custom function button.

     

    The AF speed in video recording is adjustable:

    https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/z8/en/csmg_af_speed_guid-a4c4cd1b-0ad3-5c90-eac7-5c2fb524a4b5_247.html

     

    and tracking sensitivity also:

     

    https://onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/z8/en/csmg_af_tracking_sensitivity_guid-54657d66-753f-7fcb-b56b-2b78446094a0_248.html

     

    For me the video AF has been excellent on the Z8.

    Good to know about the IBIS! I do think its great that Z8 can lock its IBIS on & off. Best of both worlds depending on situations. The wobble effect you get on wide angle lenses can ruin shots so that is very handy feature to have.

    As for video AF, I only had a short time with the Z8 but I did try a few AF speed settings and again my experience was that the AF was a little sluggish in certain situations compared to Sony/Canon. It is still very usable, just not as blazing fast & smooth as the competition. Especially compared to R3 which has the fastest, stickiest eye-AF I've witnessed. 

  6. 17 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

    I appreciate your posts, I really do but sometimes I wonder if I'll ever read anything from certain posters here or elsewhere to not complain about this or that.

    - EAG :- )

    Just sharing my likes/dislikes about the Z8. No camera is perfect and I may very well warm up to it with more time spent with it, so take my comments with a grain of salt. Its definitely a very high-spec tool at an aggressive price point. Again I love the body size, the stacked sensor, the high-resolution, and the codecs. Camera just seems to have some quirks both in operation and output.

    23 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

    Well from the perspective of someone who has never held one, or even an R5, for my needs, it is my current number one pick for a camera.

    Body.

    It’s the lens options where it loses out for me with what is offered by Nikon in Z Mount, but more importantly, what is coming or can be seamlessly adapted from Tamron.

    I’d go as far and say that if Tamron were available in, or could be adapted to Canon RF, it would be a done deal and I would switch without giving it any further thought.

    Re. 45mp, I went back to 24mp earlier this year from my previous S1R 47mp to S1H 24mp and honestly do not miss it or perhaps more importantly, notice any difference.

    The only reason today I would be interested in something like 45 or 60mp, would be so I could shoot my latest acquisition, a Leica 24-90mm and ditch the 70-200 and just crop from 45/60mp 90mm files instead.

    I presume the R5c has digital stab? That combined with OIS?

    Yeah RF isn't a good solution for third-party lenses. But the native ones are really top level albeit pricey and you can adapt certain lens systems to RF.

    45mp is obviously great for substantial cropping. Didn't realise how useful it was until I started messing around with +45mp files. Now I can't get enough it..

    And yes R5C has DIS that you can combine with OIS. Found this video about it:

     

  7. 30 minutes ago, Ty Harper said:

    I picked one up recently and really hope they drop the 30 minutes limit in the next FW update. As for exposure tools there are Zebras which I found to be pretty useful in run n gun situations!

    Yeah I meant proper exposure tools like on R5C. 

    By the way to those that own both is R5C more rugged build quality than R5? Like FX3 vs A7S3?

    Or is it really the same body, screen etc as R5 with just an added fan?

  8. On 7/4/2023 at 2:10 PM, gt3rs said:

    Currently I would say yes Z8 is probably the best hybrid in the market but for sure but not gonna switch to Nikon and then switch to Sony and then back to Cannon 🙂 
    Imo the more rational path is you invest in either Sony or Canon ecosystem and stick with it, some years you will have the "best" camera and some years not but you save a lot of money in not switching back and forth and you develop a lot of automatisms too.

    Nikon has some really cool unique lenses and Z9 and Z8 at the moment are the best in class imo, but there is no cinema ecosystem and not yet good budget friendly hybrid cameras... so at the moment if you want to grow or downsize is more tricky than Sony or Canon. Canon has the advantage to share the mount with RED and a no brainer EF support, Sony is much more open to third parties lenses. 
     

    So I've now tested out the Z8 and like I said in that thread, I got mixed feelings about it. I love the body size, build quality, LCD hinge system.. but I hate the UI, menus, layout. N-Log is a can of worms with currently horrible rec709 LUTs that kill DR and boost saturation. Camera has weird quirks like no IBIS when adapting certain lenses and other options that get greyed out depending on settings. The AF is a little sluggish. Etc. I guess to me its a great camera on paper but not really for me in actual use (I've found that to often be the case with Nikon cams).

    So for the moment I've written it off and am back on Canon/Sony bandwagon. I recently did a hybrid shoot with an R5 with latest OS and actually really enjoyed the shooting experience & the files. Camera felt super snappy, didn't skip a beat. Decent battery life & didn't run into any overheat issues. The downsides are the camera feels a little cheap, 30mn video limit sucks for long form content, no exposure tools, no magnification during recording, 8K h26x is hard to edit on an M1.

    R5C has all those video options plus 8K50p, LUT support etc. So the camera is back on my list. The battery life now being a non-issue in XFAVC is a huge plus for me so I guess the only real downside is lack of IBIS. That's kind of a big one. That said I did my entire hybrid shoot with the RF 24-70mm F2.8 which I thought was quite a phenomenal lens and it has IS. This RF lens was quite an eye opener, and I might just retire my EF lens collection and start investing in RF. So my question is, would the R5C + RF 24-70mm be usable for handheld video? Would I be missing the R5's IBIS much? I really just don't want micro-jitters and hate using post stabilisation. 

    Another Canon option is the R3. I've played around with it quickly and the ergonomics are just perfect. The video IQ is superb but the stills are "only" 24MP and I really love the 45MP files from the R5/R5C. Just feels weird paying more for less, even though the stacked sensor does bring other benefits. I guess an R3+R5C would be my dream combo, maybe I should start saving for them!

     

  9. Any Nikon Z user know if/why IBIS turns off when adapting certain lenses? I didn't even know that IBIS could be locked off on mirrorless cameras, good feature actually, just sucks that it auto locks when using the FTZ adapter (but maybe only on vintage AIS or non Nikon lenses).

    18 hours ago, MrSMW said:

    Have you tried the Flat profile?

    I’ve read and seen some good stuff coming from that.

    Last day of a semi-working break and been doing some musing as you (I) do and the pairing of Z8 & Z9 are back on top (had a short dalliance with an imaginary gal called R3 and for her body alone, she would still be my pick, but lenses, less attractive), especially now that the Tamron 35-150 has been officially announced.

    I wish I could try one but as none seem to be available in La belle France…

    Yeah I tried Flat (its also what I used to shoot with back in my D750 days). Its a good baked-in profile but I'm used to shooting Log for grading. 

    By the way Z8/Z9/R3 are available in Paris. There is even a program in certain Fnac stores where you can borrow a cam/lens combo for 48h, I don't have the full details yet as I'm currently travelling but will get you the info if you're interested.

  10. Had a quick go at the Z8 the other day. Shot some 8K ProRes test footage with a vintage Nikkor AIS lens and the Z 35mm f1.8.

    I have mixed feelings about it. For some reason the IBIS was disabled on the AIS lens, not sure if that's the case with all adapted lenses or not but it was rather disapointing (VR and EIS was greyed out). That said, it was pretty glorious seeing that vintage lens in 8K for the first time! 

    N-Log is kind of a can of worms. Footage is pretty noisy at ISO800 and yeah the provided Nikon LUTS really do suck, horrible highlight roll-off that kills the DR. The info is there though so you'll get better results going manual.

    The menus and button control is probably the worst from any system, sorry Nikon it really does my head in. Also the grip felt sticky which is not cool. The size/weight is just right, love the LCD hinge system and overall build quality.

    Just a quick first impression so I guess take what I say with a grain of salt. I do like the camera despite my few gripes and might even try renting it to spend more time with it as again the menu/UI takes a lot of getting used to.

  11. 1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

    Which I probably do not 'need'.

    45mp is nice to have for stills, but it's not like I am having any issues with 24mp.

    8k is probably slight overkill for my needs and 6k (that I mainly currently use), a bit of a sweet spot. Like 24mp is for stills.

    Glad to have been of service 😉

    But seriously, as above, I overlooked this camera myself. Aware of it's existence, but for whatever reason, did not seriously consider it.

    The Nikon maybe, all factors considered, is the better, on paper, starting from scratch, option, but for my specific requirements, I think right now, the R3 would probably be my pick over the Z9 because as an all round proposition, all factors considered, it ticks even more boxes.

    It's also the most costly of any/all options though... 

    Not that I am doing anything anytime soon, - just musing 😀

    Yeah it ticks all my boxes as well. 6K60p compressed RAW is a nice middle ground. All day battery with no overheat is ace.

    I'm sure it would be the perfect pro hybrid wedding cam for your needs too. Combined with an R6ii that's a killer combo.

    Pricey for sure but there are some really good bargains on grey market (4700€) if you can go that route.

    Then again who knows what the competitors will drop next but in that pro integrated battery grip design CaNikon are really the only two brand options..

  12. 1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

    I’ve never owned a Canon and never paid that much attention to them as a brand. Compared with other options at least.

    I was aware of course that until Sony pitched up, they were the dominant brand in photography especially.

    I have considered them from time to time and one camera I have never really paid much attention to was/is the R3.

    Wow. For a hybrid shooter like me and my specific current needs and future needs, it ticks all of the boxes. It’s not a ‘cinema’ camera, but neither are my needs for such a type.

    For an integrated battery grip camera, it’s pretty light, especially compared with the Z9 and my S1H with battery grip.

    Lens-wise, I am currently really enjoying my Lumix 70-200mm f4 except it’s a bit of a lump. OK, the f2.8 version even more of a lump, but compared with the RF 70-200 equivalent, it’s a lump.

    In fact, my S1H with battery grip with 70-200, is a whopping 1kg heavier. And in the hand all day, that is MASSIVE.

    The only lens missing from their line up for me is a compact lightweight 28-70 f2.8.

    But it’s got my 6k 50p FF internal doesn’t it with raw option if/when required, especially useful (probably) if I wanted to pull stills.

    It’s going on The List.

    I think a Z8/Z9 and lens options still probably trumps an R3/R6ii with it’s lens options, all things considered, but I’d take a much closer look if any future Lumix does not tick my boxes.

    The R3 seems a little over-looked and under-discussed, but maybe I just haven’t been looking…

    R3 is a beast! Much lighter indeed than Z9 or other camera + grip. 

    Ergonomics are imo second to none (I hate that Nikons don't have a thumbwheel). Joystick and thumbprint reading sensor.

    The AF has the standout "eye control AF" feature or "Mind-controlled AF" as Ken Rockwell calls it lol. 

    Canon AF in general remains my favourite AF system (Sony may detect a tad bit better but I like having control of my AF system and Canon has the most intuitive AF select system imo).

    Stacked sensor means 9.5ms RS in 6K (vs 14.5ms on Z8/Z9).

    6K60p RAW internal and with C-RAW Light the bitrate is only 1800Mbps vs a whopping 5780Mbps for 8K60p RAW on the Z8/Z9.

    Better LOG options and more LUTs in Canon land than Nikon.

    But of course Nikon has other specs up its sleeve, mainly 8K/45MP.

    Lens wise, the RF 24-70mm f2.8 is same weight as the Lumix version (900g) plus it has lens IS which neither Panny or Sony have.

    By the way the older EF version is 800g and the Sigma Art EF 24-70mm f2.8 is way more affordable than mirrorless versions.

    Funny because all this makes me realise the R3 (plus optional R5C/R6ii/C70) really makes most sense for me even though I've been considering switching systems..

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  13. 17 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

    I’d go more ‘sideways’ with Sony as from a stills perspective, I’d say ahead, video behind but lenses ahead.

    Canon R5c no IBIS so out of the picture for me. I do really like the R3 though!

    I am just going to sit on my fence for the rest of this year though as happy with what I currently have for my current needs + big extra tax bill of 14k dumped on me because someone at the tax office made an error in their calculations last year. Plus just want to see what happens in L Mount land for next year.

    One thing is certain and that is I will change something up next year and it will either be, in order of expectation:

    Swap my S5ii’s for S2H’s, or even Sigma may spring a surprise…

    Back to Nikon after 13 years.

    Then Sony.

    Outside chance of Canon.

    Yeah the A7RV delivers stunning stills but the video is just way too crippled to call it a proper high-end hybrid. CaNikon have it with the R3/Z8/Z9 but with Sony you gotta go spend 7K for the A1's stacked sensor to get that type of performance and you're still left with an average heat dissipation consumer body and no internal RAW! Panny doesn't do internal RAW either but at least is starting to include ProRes. 

  14. 4 hours ago, MrSMW said:

    Compact body line-up works for me as do the lenses.

    I'm interested in the hi res video specs for 'true hybrid' future work, ie, video, stills and stills from video, but the latter is not yet a deal-breaker for me and more a potential future option of interest.

    I'd rather not go cropped video if I can avoid it as I prefer my stills and video to 'match' as closely as possible and I get that currently shooting FF 6k 30p, but not with 4k 60p which is cropped 1.5x. This will be a deal-breaker whatever I do next, whether it's with L Mount or someone else, ie, FF everything, zero crops.

    All internal is also a deal-breaker for me because other than a cage/battery grip and a small shotgun mic, I'm not interested in rigging anything. Internal raw video comes into that category of 'true hybrid' and opens up the possibility of even shooting 100% video and pulling stills, but realistically, means min FF 6k 50/60p or 8k 50/60p.

    Right now, if the fairy dropped the cash, Nikon as it best meets all my criteria, but if the internal raw/crop factor was removed from the equation, the Sony option.

    With Sony, I'd still be concerned about those rear LCD's as I use them 100% and the difference between those on my S5ii and S1H are night and day with that of the S1H blowing away that of the S5ii without even trying.

    With Sony, my choices of FX3 and A7RV would be the former, approx 85-90% video and the rest stills with the A7RV being the opposite, ie, primarily stills with a secondary video role.

    Sony seems like a bit of a step backwards for your needs. Again A7RV has cropped video, no RAW, high RS & FX3 has 12MP stills and 4K max resolution. Other than compact body/lenses you'd be compromising quite a bit for a complete system change.

    Nikon Z8/Z9 ticks those boxes, so does Canon R3/R5C. FF everything, internal RAW, 6K/8K, high-res stills.

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    1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

    It would be a toss up right now for me to pair either a Nikon Z9 with a Z8, or an FX3 with an A7RV, with respectively a 28-75 and a 70-180 (which both line have available).

    I've been messing around with the A7RV and I gotta say I really love it for those 61MP stills. Insane cropping power and resolves close to medium format. However the 8K is a little misleading, its got a 1.24x crop, maxes out at 25p, low bitrate 4:2:0 and a horrible 36ms rolling shutter. Alongside overheating that mode is almost unusable. 4K also has a crop by the way.

    The Z8/Z9, R3/R5C blow it out of the water with no crop, internal RAW and fast read-out sensors.

    That being said I'm still thinking of going all-in with Sony. FX3/FX30/FX6/A7S3/A7RV.. even the ZVE1.. pretty complete compact body line-up and of course the lenses to go along with. You do have to say goodbye to RAW or high resolution video specs.

    Its tough because I'm still pretty invested in Canon glass and the R3/R5C/C70 ticks a lot of boxes but the closed RF mount is a concern plus I'm also tired of being split up in multiple ecosystems, just doesn't make sense.

  16. +4K60p in h26x 10-bit 422 will overheat on any large sensor mirrorless without active cooling. 

    So if you need unlimited recording in those settings just spend the extra $400 and get the FX30 with built-in fan etc.

    That said the thermals don't seem that bad, GU got +2h in 4K30p and 1h30 in 4K60p. 

    I do like that Fuji thought of a cooling fan add-on. Sony goes for the segmentation model.

     

     

  17. Pretty good value for $1400. Basically FX30 specs in an Alpha body with added A7RV/ZV-E1 AI chip/specs plus mechanical shutter & EVF. Thermals seem pretty decent too. For pro video I'd still probably spend the $400 extra for the pro FX body, I/O, dual card slots and fan but this is a solid APS-C hybrid. Sony's on a roll with all these camera releases!

  18. No multi custom settings is wild on a hybrid although not uncommon on most cine cams which the R5C video OS is based upon. 

    Great that battery life was finally addressed and seems to be adequate.. for XFAVC at least!

    At this point I wonder if a Z8 is not a better solution for 45MP / 8K60p RAW hybrid?

    You loose some of the nice video assist tools and LUT support but gain a stacked sensor, ProRes options, custom settings and long battery life. 

  19. On 6/28/2023 at 11:03 AM, seanzzxx said:

    I think one very important bonus of this alliance would be the fact that it gives Panasonic a very important missing piece in their ecosystem: a truly professional cinema/ENG camera with 12-bit, XLRs, docu-style body etc. If you're buying into an ecosystem for the first time Sony offers such a great upgrade path for starting one-man bands with the A7-IV, FX3, 6, 9, Venice. No matter what level you start at you can always upgrade while keeping your lenses. Same goes for Canon. Panasonic really misses that at the moment.

    Panasonic currently offers some of the best hybrid camera's on the market and then after that there's nothing.

     

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