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Proof Canon listens to its customer, they've announced the R5 MK Transformer, rumored to have ZERO overheating issues!

Like the R7 for 1000 less euros!
The AF is insane in this little camera and I have 3 adapters already. Normal Canon EF to RF, vND Meike and Viltrox 0.71X. In a way, it offers more options than a full frame one. I haven't tested the Viltrox one yet though. The other 2 are working amazingly.

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I got it! The shop I bought it received just 1 copy!! This is the second shipment and it seems that Canon send just a dozen or so for the whole country..this camera will be back ordered for a long time..Canon is giving priority to full frame production anyway.
It is interesting that Canon gives these limited copies to specialized shops and NOT to big chains at all..
The manual is 963 pages(?!), not included of course, I got the 16mm RF, an extra battery and the Canon dumb adapter as a launch gift. They run a promotion giving some reduction in price in selected lenses and varies from 75€ (50mm) to 600€ to more expensive ones. I had already ordered the 16mm, as I have other EF and EF-S lenses, but I was tempted also by the 50mm one. Is a brand new design of an old concept, seems like the best cheap 50mm in the market.
Unfortunately, I am starting an A.D job and I am reading scripts at the moment, I barely switch it on today.
2 things. It seems that zebra and focus peaking do not work together, and I couldn't find a way to zoom in to focus while recording..the second issue, if true, is a major disappointment for me..
As I said I didn't have time to search thoroughly, I took a couple of videos in glorious desert weather here (Athens, GR) and the camera did get hot a little in the touch. I will have to make some kind of test, or whatever, but it seems to me that it won't be temperature - proof as we hoped it will be.

I got it! The shop I bought it received just 1 copy!! This is the second shipment and it seems that Canon send just a dozen or so for the whole country..this camera will be back ordered for a long time..Canon is giving priority to full frame production anyway.
It is interesting that Canon gives these limited copies to specialized shops and NOT to big chains at all..
The manual is 963 pages(?!), not included of course, I got the 16mm RF, an extra battery and the Canon dumb adapter as a launch gift. They run a promotion giving some reduction in price in selected lenses and varies from 75€ (50mm) to 600€ to more expensive ones. I had already ordered the 16mm, as I have other EF and EF-S lenses, but I was tempted also by the 50mm one. Is a brand new design of an old concept, seems like the best cheap 50mm in the market.
Unfortunately, I am starting an A.D job and I am reading scripts at the moment, I barely switch it on today.
2 things. It seems that zebra and focus peaking do not work together, and I couldn't find a way to zoom in to focus while recording..the second issue, if true, is a major disappointment for me..
As I said I didn't have time to search thoroughly, I took a couple of videos in glorious desert weather here (Athens, GR) and the camera did get hot a little in the touch. I will have to make some kind of test, or whatever, but it seems to me that it won't be temperature - proof as we hoped it will be.

Non of the eos camera can do punch in focus while recording, only cinema lines can do (include r5c). You always hook up to external monitor for punch in zoom while recording 
 
That a good value of bonus you got, the place I live didn't have any pre-order bonus (cheap ass!)

I got it! The shop I bought it received just 1 copy!! This is the second shipment and it seems that Canon send just a dozen or so for the whole country..this camera will be back ordered for a long time..Canon is giving priority to full frame production anyway.
It is interesting that Canon gives these limited copies to specialized shops and NOT to big chains at all..
The manual is 963 pages(?!), not included of course, I got the 16mm RF, an extra battery and the Canon dumb adapter as a launch gift. They run a promotion giving some reduction in price in selected lenses and varies from 75€ (50mm) to 600€ to more expensive ones. I had already ordered the 16mm, as I have other EF and EF-S lenses, but I was tempted also by the 50mm one. Is a brand new design of an old concept, seems like the best cheap 50mm in the market.
Unfortunately, I am starting an A.D job and I am reading scripts at the moment, I barely switch it on today.
2 things. It seems that zebra and focus peaking do not work together, and I couldn't find a way to zoom in to focus while recording..the second issue, if true, is a major disappointment for me..
As I said I didn't have time to search thoroughly, I took a couple of videos in glorious desert weather here (Athens, GR) and the camera did get hot a little in the touch. I will have to make some kind of test, or whatever, but it seems to me that it won't be temperature - proof as we hoped it will be.

I got it! The shop I bought it received just 1 copy!! This is the second shipment and it seems that Canon send just a dozen or so for the whole country..this camera will be back ordered for a long time..Canon is giving priority to full frame production anyway.
It is interesting that Canon gives these limited copies to specialized shops and NOT to big chains at all..
The manual is 963 pages(?!), not included of course, I got the 16mm RF, an extra battery and the Canon dumb adapter as a launch gift. They run a promotion giving some reduction in price in selected lenses and varies from 75€ (50mm) to 600€ to more expensive ones. I had already ordered the 16mm, as I have other EF and EF-S lenses, but I was tempted also by the 50mm one. Is a brand new design of an old concept, seems like the best cheap 50mm in the market.
Unfortunately, I am starting an A.D job and I am reading scripts at the moment, I barely switch it on today.
2 things. It seems that zebra and focus peaking do not work together, and I couldn't find a way to zoom in to focus while recording..the second issue, if true, is a major disappointment for me..
As I said I didn't have time to search thoroughly, I took a couple of videos in glorious desert weather here (Athens, GR) and the camera did get hot a little in the touch. I will have to make some kind of test, or whatever, but it seems to me that it won't be temperature - proof as we hoped it will be.

The "example" R7 video posted above is obviously color graded with teal and orange, and in no way shows the "colors' of the R7 or the DR, or skin tones.
Here is a video, shot in Clog3, in 4K 60p in crop mode, giving an almost 3X FF crop, using the cheap EF S 18-135mm kit lens. The "grade" is just the daVinci Studio transform from Clog3 and canon.cine color to REC709:
 
And this tests the audio, same specs as above:
 

Comparison of 4K fine vs lineskip and also 4k60p crop vs non crop
 
 
 

I believe you already made a very good move with your Panasonic, BM are more specialized cameras for video.
What they did to the industry is very significant though, a 4K is dead cheap and can mount almost every lens ever made, and the 6K Pro is an amazing tool with the ND and the bright and movable screen with the most popular lenses in history (EF). Internal ND is the holy grail for cheap video cameras and tick that box also.
But IBIS and good AF are very helpful tools to have and for some people must have, so they have to move to other options.
No perfect camera for everyone, but so many great ajd varied choices at the moment. Good news for all of us.

Good point.
My Panny's are all 150Mbps 420 10 bit and my grade is fairly mild but a lot of 50% Slow mo.
I tried very briefly (once) jumping up to the 400Mbps option...but never again. I didn't see any benefit and it chewed through cards at a crazy rate.
150 therefore is Goldilocks for me.

It also depends on the specific flavour of codec, not only related to bitrate but its "magic" as well. The S1 without the VLog and 10bit 422 update it had a h265 10bit 420 codec in HLG and with 75 Mbit. It had definate flaws in homogenously coloured surfaces such as painted blue wall fi. In these areas the material was full of artefacts, specifically cluster of blocks, which were easily revealed by a strong contrast curve. The 4K 150mbit h264 422 10bit codec, as well as the 100mbit 10bit 422 HD flavour are pretty much seemingly unbreakable. I assume one could film a valid cinema project with it. The 4K8bit 100mbit codec was not shabby at all neither for its proposed use in 709, though paling in comparision to its fantastic 10bit counterpart. The 4K 8bit 100mbit flavour on a Sony A7S2 on the other hand sucks pretty much for more elevated grading needs, even in comparison to a tiny GX85. GX85 flavour of 4K 8bit 100mbit is no slouch if not overwhelming it with the task of serious low light, like above 800Iso under Golden Hour fi. Then mushiness will sneak in, also with noise reduction set all way down to -5. cheers

I've been using the Meike nd adaptor for a little while now and it has been faultless, so much nicer than usual vari nd, no obvious colour change as you get to maximum nd and the 9 stops is enough here for me in the UK afternoon sun with f1.8 lenses at 800 iso. It may be a different story If you use faster lenses and live in brighter parts of the world of course...

Why are people moaning about battery life?  I think a huge proportion of camera criticism is emotional, not rational.  Take the GH6 for example, people were comparing the battery life between GH5 and GH6 (perhaps without facts) and are critical of that, but then they compare the DR to something like the P6K and are critical again.  This thread is full of combinations like that. 
Instead, had they compared the DR between the GH5 and GH6 they'd be complimentary, and compared the battery life between GH6 and P6K they'd also be complimentary.
Realistically, you have to compare all aspects of one camera with all aspects of another.  Comparing the DR to camera X and battery life to camera Y implies that I can buy a camera with the DR of camera X and the DR of camera Y, which of course doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, I'm very curious to hear about how the battery life compares.
In terms of how to compare the GH5 vs GH6 battery life on standby, use the timelapse mode on your phone (and have it on charge) and put a clock in the shot.  You only need a rough comparison (if they're within a minute or two of each other then that's good enough) and there's no huge file-sizes to deal with, and no media management - just review it on the phone at the end to see the times they shut down and then delete the clip!

I hear you guys, but then truth is that video is a team based job. Even having to carry everything from the car, having a camera on a totally different and remote place, running 2/3/4 cameras simultaneously or whatever..
..whatever you are writing against it, I can write back a few dozen pages. 
Just say you have a different workflow, and I respect that, but assistance is always helpful. I only do the smaller of the jobs alone these days.
Of course my background is film and tv series, so I am more used to work with people, working alone is a photographer's stance, while moving images is more of a team orientated work, especially we that started with a NO leds and a NO mirrorless cameras work environment. Only to move the medium lights (have you ever seen a 6K?!) you needed 2-3 persons back then..
Anyways, let's stick to the R7, I would be willing to wait for the R7C one, as I have plenty of cameras at the moment, but how close is this camera is still largely unknown, and at what price that would be available? 3.000-3.500? I am quite puzzled at the moment. damn rumors!

Yes but you are skipping budget, the types of work you are referencing had the budget for it, event work which I do has razor thin margins and the organizers question the ROI on my services probably every year....with a big enough budget anything is possible, for event work the budget simply isn't there so any assistant that I hire would come out of my own profits and because the hourly rate would be low for the assistant you get what you pay for. And yes, I do hire assistants for things like talent management, talent direction, etc for larger modeling shoots but I am still the only shooter.
If I had the budget to pay assistants $50/hr+ I am sure I'd have a great team by now....but that's not going to happen in my particular niche of the industry.
I don't think it would be much more than $2500USD, it is still a crop sensor, and still has plenty of competition from Sony and Panasonic, and it still has very few actual crop sensor lenses, it also remains to be seen how it performs in general against the competition. 

I hear you guys, but then truth is that video is a team based job. Even having to carry everything from the car, having a camera on a totally different and remote place, running 2/3/4 cameras simultaneously or whatever..
..whatever you are writing against it, I can write back a few dozen pages. 
Just say you have a different workflow, and I respect that, but assistance is always helpful. I only do the smaller of the jobs alone these days.
Of course my background is film and tv series, so I am more used to work with people, working alone is a photographer's stance, while moving images is more of a team orientated work, especially we that started with a NO leds and a NO mirrorless cameras work environment. Only to move the medium lights (have you ever seen a 6K?!) you needed 2-3 persons back then..
Anyways, let's stick to the R7, I would be willing to wait for the R7C one, as I have plenty of cameras at the moment, but how close is this camera is still largely unknown, and at what price that would be available? 3.000-3.500? I am quite puzzled at the moment. damn rumors!

I hear you guys, but then truth is that video is a team based job. Even having to carry everything from the car, having a camera on a totally different and remote place, running 2/3/4 cameras simultaneously or whatever..
..whatever you are writing against it, I can write back a few dozen pages. 
Just say you have a different workflow, and I respect that, but assistance is always helpful. I only do the smaller of the jobs alone these days.
Of course my background is film and tv series, so I am more used to work with people, working alone is a photographer's stance, while moving images is more of a team orientated work, especially we that started with a NO leds and a NO mirrorless cameras work environment. Only to move the medium lights (have you ever seen a 6K?!) you needed 2-3 persons back then..
Anyways, let's stick to the R7, I would be willing to wait for the R7C one, as I have plenty of cameras at the moment, but how close is this camera is still largely unknown, and at what price that would be available? 3.000-3.500? I am quite puzzled at the moment. damn rumors!

@herein2020
All the Canon adapters are very expensive. I have ordered the MEIKE vND (plus Clear, plus 1/8 of Black Pro mist). Performed better in the reviews I have seen for almost half the price.
The normal Canon supposedly is a gift with the camera (which I am not sure I am getting it, because I am still in "pre order" status), and I have heard the Viltrox ones are quite good also.
Your equipment is the only thing you have in control in these circumstances! and it should be that way.
From everything you have described, the less problematic is the use of a crop camera! In no way you have to change lenses all the time. When I was shooting photos I had 2 cameras left and right, and another smaller one with a fish eye or other unique/oddball lens somewhere near. I never changed anything.
If you do everything alone, hire someone to help you and ease some of the burden. I read people's stories about doing video and photography and everything in between, but that is not my cup of tea. I prefer to give someone a chance for some work experience and money, and do me a favor to my self! 
You can be specific about the use of your equipment, and that would make everything easier. e.g you can have the 50 RF on the R7 as a short portrait solution of 80mm equiv..Ultra light setup to have always on you..C70 with the 24-105mm (as you do) and your full frame camera, with whatever matches your needs. Probably a 24-70mm for photography? There must be a way to organize most things beforehand. Or just change one for the 70-200 (maybe for interview?) and that's it..
By the way, the RF 24-105 is better than the EF in everything (something which isn't true in general about all RF lenses vs EF). It is smaller/lighter/faster AF and performing better IQ wise. Anyway, I was never a fun of the EF 24-105, I am not sure if I will be for the RF.
Just some ideas. I am not trying to impose anything to you! Obviously we haven't been in someone's elses shoes. You know better your work flow.

@herein2020
All the Canon adapters are very expensive. I have ordered the MEIKE vND (plus Clear, plus 1/8 of Black Pro mist). Performed better in the reviews I have seen for almost half the price.
The normal Canon supposedly is a gift with the camera (which I am not sure I am getting it, because I am still in "pre order" status), and I have heard the Viltrox ones are quite good also.
Your equipment is the only thing you have in control in these circumstances! and it should be that way.
From everything you have described, the less problematic is the use of a crop camera! In no way you have to change lenses all the time. When I was shooting photos I had 2 cameras left and right, and another smaller one with a fish eye or other unique/oddball lens somewhere near. I never changed anything.
If you do everything alone, hire someone to help you and ease some of the burden. I read people's stories about doing video and photography and everything in between, but that is not my cup of tea. I prefer to give someone a chance for some work experience and money, and do me a favor to my self! 
You can be specific about the use of your equipment, and that would make everything easier. e.g you can have the 50 RF on the R7 as a short portrait solution of 80mm equiv..Ultra light setup to have always on you..C70 with the 24-105mm (as you do) and your full frame camera, with whatever matches your needs. Probably a 24-70mm for photography? There must be a way to organize most things beforehand. Or just change one for the 70-200 (maybe for interview?) and that's it..
By the way, the RF 24-105 is better than the EF in everything (something which isn't true in general about all RF lenses vs EF). It is smaller/lighter/faster AF and performing better IQ wise. Anyway, I was never a fun of the EF 24-105, I am not sure if I will be for the RF.
Just some ideas. I am not trying to impose anything to you! Obviously we haven't been in someone's elses shoes. You know better your work flow.

@herein2020
All the Canon adapters are very expensive. I have ordered the MEIKE vND (plus Clear, plus 1/8 of Black Pro mist). Performed better in the reviews I have seen for almost half the price.
The normal Canon supposedly is a gift with the camera (which I am not sure I am getting it, because I am still in "pre order" status), and I have heard the Viltrox ones are quite good also.
Your equipment is the only thing you have in control in these circumstances! and it should be that way.
From everything you have described, the less problematic is the use of a crop camera! In no way you have to change lenses all the time. When I was shooting photos I had 2 cameras left and right, and another smaller one with a fish eye or other unique/oddball lens somewhere near. I never changed anything.
If you do everything alone, hire someone to help you and ease some of the burden. I read people's stories about doing video and photography and everything in between, but that is not my cup of tea. I prefer to give someone a chance for some work experience and money, and do me a favor to my self! 
You can be specific about the use of your equipment, and that would make everything easier. e.g you can have the 50 RF on the R7 as a short portrait solution of 80mm equiv..Ultra light setup to have always on you..C70 with the 24-105mm (as you do) and your full frame camera, with whatever matches your needs. Probably a 24-70mm for photography? There must be a way to organize most things beforehand. Or just change one for the 70-200 (maybe for interview?) and that's it..
By the way, the RF 24-105 is better than the EF in everything (something which isn't true in general about all RF lenses vs EF). It is smaller/lighter/faster AF and performing better IQ wise. Anyway, I was never a fun of the EF 24-105, I am not sure if I will be for the RF.
Just some ideas. I am not trying to impose anything to you! Obviously we haven't been in someone's elses shoes. You know better your work flow.

Yep, I was talking about the evolution of it, not the actual XC10!
It had some serious disadvantages.
 
@herein2020
As of the C70 and R7 situation, using EF lenses makes the most sense right now, and just a few RF or RF-S lenses in the future.
Going 18-135mm EF-S for run and gun (that's what I was using on C100mkII) with the ND adapter is a solution. For tele I have the EF 70-200 4f (yes, 4f, mostly because of the lesser weight and size, and cheaper as a bonus). Then you can use some primes, the 16mm RF is my favourite focal length 24mm equiv..or a classic solution of an 24-105mm either way (RF or EF).
I do not understand the crop agony..this is what it is, an X1.6 sensor, check your options and work with what you have. I wish there will be some pro level RF-S lenses on their way. I stayed with the NX system because of their amazing lenses, 16-50mm 2-2.8f almost 2f until 32mm (like having some 2f primes at the wide end), a ton of small pancakes (plus an amazing fish eye I use a lot).
I hope they will feel the heat from Pana/Only/Fuji, even Sony is pushing APS-C lenses as of late and will release more RF-S lenses.
After all these years, I feel that Sony has made for themselves the best situation. If some remember how much I disliked Sony for their sub par releases of the past (terrible ergonomics, menu system, lenses situation, overheating, spec warriors, terrible battery life), lately they seem to do all the right things I have to admit.

XC10 was a brilliant design, I was expecting an evolution of that design to be the must have run and gun camera of our age (something the C100 was). 
Ofcourse C70 is that good, but a little bit weirder, I guess! And a bit more expensive than most of us would like.

XC10 was a brilliant design, I was expecting an evolution of that design to be the must have run and gun camera of our age (something the C100 was). 
Ofcourse C70 is that good, but a little bit weirder, I guess! And a bit more expensive than most of us would like.