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It is/will be a pandemic. Everyone will be affected one way or another. Just hope just for the financial loss for everyone around us and not anything more serious.

I hope the new trend for this summer will be no more wedding videos and/or photos.

Aren't those new iPhones good enough already?

On 2/13/2020 at 8:59 PM, alsoandrew said:

very interesting. How were you able to find it if I might ask? 

From another forum, somebody's else finding. 

That was a better performance than Joker.

http://www.mydiyworld.net/?cat=108

It is in glorious Korean, but google translate reveals some interesting things for anyone that cares.

I have noticed a similar trend the last few years.

People have unsubstantial expectations on a lot of different products.

I was shopping for a car lately, most people were like "if it costs more than 20.000€ is an unfair price", finally all these last cars started from 20.000 and going way up.

People were expecting a "cheaper" car, but with the same quality as it is, the latest and better thermal engines, all the most modern safety feature (staying in lane, automatic brake, sign recognition, e.t.c) but with a price tag similar to the previous model.

Same with the video lenses here on another topic. Fast zoom, not too big, not too heavy, ultra cheap, e.t.c when that wasn't seemed feasible people started taking out features, "we do not need parfocalness, don't care about focus breathing, let's make it a 3f to make it smaller and cheaper" e.t.c

Certainly some things seem overpriced, but there must be a reason or more for that. We should be more pragmatic with our expectations and stop complaining all the time.

If something is more expensive than we can afford, we can go a tier down, or buy used.

You don't care for parfocalness and focus breathing? Then you are very lucky because there are millions of such lenses that start from 1$...

The Sigma is not parfocal, "almost" parfocal is not a thing.

Sometimes the opinions here is like a horse is talking about scotch whiskey.

We want them cheap, fast, great focal range, smallish and lightish, and pretty good for video, and cheaper more!

Another thing with the boom mic is that the framing is very tight, so the boom mic should have been 5-10cm from her head.

3 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

Yeah - my point was none of those mics are any closer to the talent than the one @IronFilm is saying is too far away. Even the mic for the man on the piano is about the same distance as in @thebrothersthre3 photo. Saying its 'waaaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far away' is a bit much.

If you compare the distance between the piano man and the couch people is the difference between usable and non usable sound on a professional setup.

The difference between the other take and the piano man is definitely 1/3 less and closer to 1/2 in my opinion. Maybe 2/5s.

You have to realize that in professional sets we fight to gain even a few centimeters for better sound. A lot of times we literally fight, and shout with directors/cameramen/DoPs.

Sometimes @IronFilm is too protective to our trade!

56 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said:

I guess Danny Boyle doesn't know how to control his sound men either.

This an a list job with probably Schoeps and probably the usable sound is of the man on the piano.

Usually they are doing a wide and a close up of the piano player - the right sound position, and a double on the couch and maybe one or two close ups of the people there.

It's good to have the options, just the P4K is a more sensible choice for more people.

I had the money and the will to buy the 6K, just couldn't justify the workflow and the inconvenience however hard I was pushing it in my mind!

@BTM_Pix I didn't want it to sound like an "I told you so" comment, sorry if it sounded like this, that wasn't even the case back then, I was typing with the one hand doing sound with the other and I didn't really processed my replies!

I was trying to find another comment, that it was spot on about the popularity of two cameras but I just found the above, and that's that.

I still believe that the next step will be 8K and that will be our next purchase, until then we will see a few more 6K cameras, when the market will be more mature.

4 hours ago, leslie said:

dont think many have lost out on the p4k as some people suspect. Im thinking most of us are pretty happy with it, no need to make a leap for a negligibly improved  p6k boat, sailing from a port near never never land🙄

dare i say it, the p6k doesn't trounce the p4k as expected ?  Not sure what bmd's thinking was to release two models so close together, probably caused more angst than anything but its water under the bridge now

They do not care, they just wanted to cover all their bases before anyone released an 6K camera. 

On 1/10/2020 at 5:02 PM, BTM_Pix said:

Yep, they do seem to be holding up very well both in terms of price and interest.

Meanwhile, the thread about the 6K one here has been relatively dormant over the past four months.

I said that immediately on the P6K forum back then.

9 of August 2019: "4) this camera in no way will sell more than the P4K."

And you replied "If those people now come back I'm guessing it might will be to the 6K and that the 6K will have a longer life so might well outsell the 4K in the end."

Then I said, among others: "P4K is so cheap already that I doubt we will see a significant difference in price anytime soon."

15 of August:"

..and suddenly the P6K thread is dead silent!

Do you remember what was going on when the P4K was announced?

The P6K is an excellent and very reasonably priced option for 6K and EF aficionados, but the price and features of P4K spoiled us all for ever!"

P4K is da thing!

12 hours ago, Beritar said:

I would like the same with my A7III !

At this point in history, I would be happy with anything, really! Even EOS-M!

I saw this on dpr. Do not know if it is any significant but I would love to see my NX lenses on a Z50!

https://***URL removed***/forums/post/63526091

I always considered the NX 16-50mm S a better lens. 2f in most of the 18-35mm range (so, just 0.2f difference), wider at 16mm and a lot more tele at 50mm and incredible OIS.

Samsung NX.

Still using the ecosystem both professionaly and for my hobby. 

Great selection of cheap lenses and pancakes.

Last weekend I had the NX3000 with the 16-50 PZ, I did an event coverage with 2 NX1 and 16-50S and 12-24mm, a few days ago used the NX500 with the 16-50PZ and 50-200mm for the kids plays, and now I gave the NX3000 and the 18-200 to a friend for the holidays, and I am away for a family trip with the NX500 and the fisheye/30mm/45mm.

I bought my first NX in 2013.

After 20 years in the business and a lot more in film and video and photography, NX has a unique place in my heart.

It was everything we wanted, and a huge Asian capitalistic corporation was doing everything they could to make it true! What a rare moment in history.

8 hours ago, Geoff CB said:

The NX1 UI and settings were perfect.

..and ergonomics.

This and the Mini follow focus seems like an ok combo for very cheap situations.

Are they available to pre-order in Europe?

Some Fotga stuff are ok too. 

3 hours ago, 1Ale82 said:

Considering cards/supports for video recording, Samsung T5 are quite a bargain, around 110 euro for 500gb on amazon. A CFast card of 128gb is around 300 euro, a 300MB SD card of 64 gb is around 90 euro. If you do the math, even the more expensive SSD drives are still a cheaper option than internal recording on other media.

And on top of that, for T5 drive there is also a nice holder to lock into the cage of the BMPC 4k/6k.

What holder? I am looking for one right now!

T5 drives are the best value for money, still use a CF for small projects and ultimate quality. SD for lesser ones.

19 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I haven't really been paying attention to the price in the meantime but at launch it was £2430 in the UK including VAT.

Its now available pretty much everywhere at £2199 and I paid a bit less again after some negotiation.

Its not super duper end of line price slashing levels of course but the 15% price fall in just over 3 months, not to mention the readily available stock, struck me as quite the significant contrast to the Pocket4K.

Official price here is 2799euros, but you recently can find it from not official resellers for 2400euros, which is a substantial difference.

Most possible P6K buyers have bought a P4K already though..

At least we didn't have a massive "beach: barefoot or flip flop?" controversy!

1 hour ago, Geoff CB said:

It has a cleaner interface and runs faster due to GPU acceleration. I would greatly recommend it over the older version. I don't use it all the time, but its great when I'm trying to bring up underexposed footage.  

If GPU acceleration is true that is a big thing, because I just got an 2070 Super (paired with the 3900X) a little while ago. I didn't see it anywhere at their site though.

I got the update anyway.

Cheers!

I noticed that some here already use the Nitrate, but I didn't have the time to look that up until now.

I have the simple version and I am not sure what more does it offer that it isn't already there.

I would appreciate any experience you have with this all new version.

2 hours ago, leslie said:

thats good to know about ugreen. Haven't heard about them before finding a listing on ebay.  Ii'll also have a look at tilta

I buy a lot of stuff from amazon.de and they have a lot of Ugreen products.

I have the Tilta cage, and as you can see it fits nicely there https://www.cinegearpro.co.uk/products/tilta-cb-usbc-20-usb-type-c-cable-for-bmpcc-4k-cage-rig20cm