Kurtisso

YUP. I support an organized/categorized subforum for gear sales as long as we can keep it from getting out of control. Into it.

Instead of just a thread, how about a subforum?

Reds are plenty sharp enough for me. There's no sharpening applied to the raw, you can select sharpening in standard red debayer which isn't great, or apply your own.
Consumer cams use a ton in camera and compress the shit out of the data. Sharpening is part of trying to get detail back from a bayer array.
Here's a short test. I was going for Emmanuel Lubezski plus cats LOLOLOL!!!1one!!1!
1st shot 4K 25fps, 2nd shot 2K 50fps. So yes the second shot is cropped in. It's not that noisy, certainly not unmanagable at ISO800 here.
I think it was 60mm Macro
 

Yeap! Future-proof is an interesting concept. The Godfather was filmed on "old" technology. I will watch that 40 years from now.
Actually, shooting analog film is probably your best bet for future proof. The film scanning tech keeps getting better, you can scan super 8 into 4k raw now! :D

It looks just fine and will in the future as well.

*Whistles*
Check this out: https://***URL not allowed***/full-frame-and-beyond-large-sensor-digital-cinema/

What are you shooting and what are your priorities in a camera package?  That scarlet seems overpriced... 

I would think 3K 60p and 2K 120p would get you through most music video shoots.

To be fair, all Red cams are soft (even the 8K weapons). But they are purposefully done that way?
There is no incamera sharpening and no incamera noise reduction.
Redcode is RAW. At which point everything is done in post. I think what people get really excited about when dealing with RAW is the white balance sliders and ISO adjustment... Etc.
 

Yeah! It never crossed my mind that individual colour channels would be clipped but that totally makes sense! 

Thanks for all the helpful information guys!

Compressed .krw raw is not uncompressed raw. I don't have a Terra 6k for sale.
Terra 6k is the most comparable. $9000 without EF - kinemount and  kineEnhancer. Add in the proper media storage. Are you sure the price is less? (it's not...)
 If you tally up all the things I am including using the ole innnnnernet I think you will find that number to be more than what I am asking for my virtually brand new wares. And you know, I never said I wasn't open to hearing out an offer.
Cheers.

Hell Yeah wait for the Kinefinity Terra 5K!

Ursa would be a no-go for me, given its high frequency of negative reviews from users. So it'll have to be Red. But if it were really up to me, I'd wait a month for the Kinefinity Terra.

CCD technology is definitely quite interesting, but I wish the camera was able to do raw as well.  Raw would have let me use more than slog1, to take advantage of its beautiful sensor.  This is the beauty of the digital bolex and ikonscope cameras - that combination I find perfect.
I think, when history shines back on our industry, (not that it really will) - it will kind of show how the weird looking red one, once it shifted to the MX, did actually change the high-end camera market and made Sony eat humble pie on their 250,000 dollar F35.

Not kool-aid, more like finely aged CCD wine.

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used  

shoot through pantyhose

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used  

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used  

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used  

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used  

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used  

Battle tested KineMINI is such a great deal right now. Kinefinity even sells kinebatts and dual chargers, pretty cheap 130watt battery sources in gold mount or v-lock. These batteries or chargers aren't the "super intelligent" antons but they also don't cost a kidney. I use them and will keep monitoring to see how they last over time. The Kine's are built pretty solid too, I don't use a cage for mine.
I use the Samsung 850 Pro's for ssd. They work like a charm. I swap between the kineEnhancer for ~full frame (1.1x) and regular (s35) EF mounts and use a nikon to EF adapter for my nikkors and m42 to EF for my soviets. 
The cinema DNG's that come out of this cam are pretty darn fun to grade. Here's one of the .dng from a project I shot with the KineMINI earlier this year: PRJ-0001-060-A1-6274-0000199.dng Move it around in lightroom or whatever you tinker with. Didn't get much fire reflection from the torch off of the glasses from that angle so didn't end up using it.
 

I use the 1/4 black pro mist to take the edge off sometimes. I like what it does for the highlights with rolloff and blooms. I got an 82mm one for 17.50 used