Jimmy

4 hours ago, sanveer said:

Panasonic is moving closer to sending Canon's 5D Cameras to the grave. 

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice ... 

Do you know about photographers... aka still shooters? ?

Anyway... buzzing for the gh5.... seems absolutely perfect for my needs... bring it on.

1 hour ago, k-robert said:

BUT

Everybody, just a bit serious about photography makes a decision for a brand, trusts a company, and invests in that system. So when you have invested in lenses, flashes, remote controls, etc… you might be disappointed, if your chosen company lets you down. You have thought, you make a strategic partnership, and you are a hostage. So when you develop anti-stockholm syndrome, you are going to be angry and hate that buster. And it is your best right to express these feelings and even flame

The problem is that video people tied themselves into Canon based on the notion that Canon would start adding video features and make video centric DSLRs... Unfortuntly, there was zero evidence of this happening... So they kinda have themselves to blame.

4 minutes ago, Huuow said:

the timing seems rigged ^^

http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-first-panasonic-gh5-spec-4k-422-10-bits-internal-recording/

1) The camera has no crop for 4K
2) 4:2:2 10 bits internal recording!!!!

Sign me up

If they can get the 10bit 4:2:2 working nicely with P-Log, it will be the game changer we have all craved.

1 hour ago, Luke Mason said:

HDR video works on 5D Mark IV by shooting 60fps 1080p with two alternating exposure setting, then the camera merges these two exposures to create an HDR 30fps 1080p video.

Do you have a source for that info.... The shot in the alleyway is going pretty fast and there is no sign of ghosting. I think it is dual ISO or maybe some trick from the dual pixel tech.

4 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

By the time ML team have got something out, polished, stable, and tested for the 5Dmk4 then Sony will be onto the a7S mk4!

And it'll still have 8bit 4:2:0!

4 minutes ago, Oliver Daniel said:

The 5D has video features made for photographers.

This is why the MJPEG codec makes so much sense.

Without C-log... my interest is low, though the HDR mode looks interesting.

Hopefully ML get on it

I guess we will just have to disagree on what is "awful" DR.

Anyway... here's hoping the 5div carries over the 13.5 stops of the 1dx ii... that must take canon from awful to average?

Nikon go for highest DR at a base ISO... Canon keep their DR across a much bigger range.

Nikon have been well ahead on base ISO, I agree... though the D5 is only 12 stops too and the 1DX ii a healthy 13.5

To say the 1DC is awful is what made me laugh though. 

I have no issue with someone saying the Nikon sensor is better... it is saying the Canon is awful and outdated that is laughable. If you can't get your shot with 12 stops, you are not a good photographer that understands light.

1 hour ago, wolf33d said:

1DC is completely outdated for stills for landscape. The DR is awfull

 

Hahahahaha. I can't believe what I read on here at times. Do you solely shoot into the midday sun from inside a cave?

1 hour ago, wolf33d said:

Canon stinks. I can't wait for them to die like Kodak did, it will be well deserved. 
5 years we wait their camera to get nothing. They could have done 4k FF with the 300mbps codec of the X10 and CLOG and the 5DIV would have been an amazing camera for video and photo. Just 2 specs, that are ALREADY existing on canon products. 2 easy specs. Fuck that seriously, they take us for pigeons and they are right to do so. Because the thing is people will still buy their shit. 
 

Yea, like all the other camera manufacturers have similar products to the list you just rattled off... that you clearly believe you deserve, at the price you can afford.

If Sony, Nikon etc were all making amazing hybrid cameras, I could just about understand the levels of anger you have at Canon... But they aren't. At least Canon have a product that more or less meets your list (1DC).

2 hours ago, Flynn said:

Why do you have to make it personal and take such a disgusting cheapshot?  You should apologize as should Jimmy for upvoting this comment. We're talking about a freaking camera. Why do you people lose your shit just because someone disagrees? IT'S A FREAKING CAMERA. Who cares. No need to start personally insulting someone.

what is so disgusting and cheap about what he wrote?

Ebrahim talks positively about cameras he doesn't own.... Tugela, i strongly believe, talks negatively about cameras he doesn't own. Two ends of the same spectrum.

I'm not "losing my shit".... I just grow weary of people slating a camera they clearly (again, in my opinion) have never used... I don't even believe they have seen it, judging by the "not a professional build" comments.

13 minutes ago, hmcindie said:

tugela has actually not used any cameras. He is a bit like Ebrahim but on the other side of the spectrum.

It's an odd phenomenon of the internet. People fuming about cameras/phones/computers/cars etc etc that they have never even used or seen.

anyway, I look forward to any news. It's a form factor that really works for my type of work (that i make money from!)

Something can be pro and not a weather sealed beast.

Have you actually used one? I have and thought it was well built... I'd happily fly it on my drones.

1 hour ago, tugela said:

The XC10 marketing spin is no different. Most people who buy gear like this are advanced amateurs. That is who the marketing is really aimed at.

Which explains why it is listed under the "Consumer and Home Office" tab as well on the Canon site.

Yea, like the guy who shot "trick shot", DP on House M.D?

It's part of the C range, it is a pro tool.

Could be very interesting... really like the former factor... just disliked the lens

It is worth noting the the 1.7 crop on 4k is purely an educated guess from Andrew... people seem to be using it as a stick to beat Canon with already.... seems odd.

2 hours ago, wolf33d said:

Nikon make way better stills camera (the D810 2 years old explodes any canon on the market)

Yea, right.... I guess all those guys at the Olympics are just fanboys or paid by Canon?

1 hour ago, OliKMIA said:

That being said there is Canon trends, the latest 1Dx2 and 80D have better DR but nothing crazy compared to Sony/Nikon.

You realise that the Sony sensors only hit really high DR at very specific ISOs? Canon have always sacrificed peak DR in favour of a more even DR spread across the ISO range.

If it is correct that the new Canon sensor is hitting 13.5 stops and maintaining it across a broad ISO range, that is as good as anyone needs (in stills/raw).

1 hour ago, Oliver Daniel said:

 

Having Slog2 on the A7SII is absolutely awesome. As long as you know how to grade and manage the profile, the results are well worth it.

Just down to taste, I don't want to use any other camera that doesn't have log. 

The new 5D won't have it, so........ err, probably not for me. 

 

It's ridiculous really... A few lines of code.

If only Canon would realise that adding C-log to the DSLR range is simply not gonna take away all their CXXX customers. In fact, they will gain a bunch of sales from CXXX users who need a B cam.

Canon almost always have boring specs... They get slated by bloggers, the forums are rife with laughter and scorn. Then the footage comes out and people do a double take.

You only need to look to the blog owner here, a self confessed tech/spec head, to see this... He has the 1DC, C500 and XC10. All were mocked and generally considered underwhelming yet the image draws people in.

Canon are mugs if they don't put in c-log though... If it doesn't have c-log or ML... count me out.

20 minutes ago, Jara Moravec said:

I think the million dollar question is whether Magic Lantern is going to be available. Imagine 50fps HD RAW with these bitrates. I could not care less about 4K but I want detailed beefy RAW and potentially lower res 120fps RAW...

Possibly an extra 1.5+ stops DR too, if Canon use the new sensor tech.

If ML were to unleash 1080/60p, 13.5 stops DR, raw, canon colour and DPAF, i'd be all over it.

9 hours ago, OliKMIA said:

First it's only 4k30p

Since when did 4k60p become a must have on a DSLR!?  This spec chasing will just go on and on and on.

9 hours ago, OliKMIA said:

Conclusion: after holding it for as long as possible, Canon is finally jumping in the 4K train but in the worst possible way with weird specs that are going to be severely outdated in a few month by the upcoming competition that will to give us 4K60 and 6K30 soon. In 3 or 4 years I can't even imagine how theses ridiculous specs will look like...

Is that the same Canon that ALREADY have a 4K60p camera (1DX-II)?

Is that also the same Canon that have the best 4K image quality of any hybrid/dslr (1DC)?

Is that the same Canon that "finally jumped into 4K" 3 years ago (1DC)?

If it has an image similar to the 1DX-II, it will be a nice camera... 4:2:2 mpeg is actually really nice. Will be interesting to see if ML take a look under the hood.

3 hours ago, Oliver Daniel said:

Also noticed the FS7 has increased in price by around £1500. 

Probably an after effect of Brexit. Alot of folk were saying that if the £ remained really weak, prices on imported products would rise.