ade towell

Yeah cause Canon is for winners ?

If it is a pro build top end video camera I don’t see why it should cost much less than a D5 or EOS1D?
The S1 is incredible value for money. 

Anamorphic lens users might want to look very closely at their Panasonic S1 menus, and even the manual on page 143.
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Ehm, I don't see the problem in that glitter women picture, I think it's perfectly sharp, look at the nose, those hairs. That's typical bayer pattern detail.
Maybe you are not used to DOF in medium format, portrait shots are more like macro shots DOF wise.

omg theres a few stills samples on fujis page
warning: LARGE jpg
https://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/gfx/fujifilm_gfx100/sample_images/img/index/ff_gfx100_001.JPG

Then you better be willing to pay higher prices for your goods.
Trump wants everything made in America because it sounds good and wins him votes because people think it will create jobs. Yet, almost no one is willing to pay higher prices because they want a “decent” wage too. You can’t have both.
China has cheap labor. China is also looking at Africa for its cheap labor.
This is when you realize most things in this world have been built off the down trodden and less fortunate.

the AF actually looks good enough for my occasional needs but some people seem to completely rely on it. The colour, IBIS and dynamic range take this camera way above the rest for me, would be nice to see footage with some old glass, anyone come across any?

Its one that came up a few times so in this one I've added the B&H link to the, currently, 50 different L mount adapters they supply.
 

I think it has the best image of all the mirrorless cameras I've ever seen, can't wait to see what full v-log brings.
AF for video is its only real weakness but for me that's not a big deal - it is more important that it has great IBIS, handheld with my Canon fd lenses will be lovely

I think it has the best image of all the mirrorless cameras I've ever seen, can't wait to see what full v-log brings.
AF for video is its only real weakness but for me that's not a big deal - it is more important that it has great IBIS, handheld with my Canon fd lenses will be lovely

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I wonder what Canon can bring to a pro model to be competitive, presuming it will have a much higher price than the EOS-R and the rest of the market?
The Canon main selling points over the years in my opinion have been the colour, AF and lenses...
The EOS-R does have nice Canon colour but in my opinion Panasonic S1 and the XT3 have now surpassed them
Their AF is no longer a clear market leader - Sony look like they are overtaking them
They have relied on their huge ef and efs lens range that people already own but this is a new mount and so this is no longer such a great selling point - they are giving away the adaptor with the camera now but as you say most people will hang onto their ef lenses
The DR and RS and crop is way behind the competition at the moment as are their video specs -  I'm not convinced they have good enough sensor tech to get that back. It feels like they are being left behind.
I would love to be wrong because I have a lot of Canon lenses and a couple of their cameras and if they they could create a decent stills and video hybrid camera I would buy it even if it was a bit more expensive than the competition. But I don't think they really care about the video side in their stills cameras, and I have little faith in them turning it round and so think  I'm going to sell all my Canon stuff, just not sure whether to go Panasonic or Fuji at the moment

I would be happy with 1DX2 specs (no crop) + IBIS in a mirrorless body with dual card slots & C-Log 1/2/3. (IBIS is already confirmed btw)
Canon obviously have to keep developing their tech. I expect quad-pixel AF. Better DR/ISO/RS etc..
We'll just have to wait & see what they come up with. If they drop the ball on video in the pro model, I'm out too.
Either A7III+FS7 or S1+EVA1. Not super keen on either alternative atm, but it is getting tiresome to feel held back.

I wonder what Canon can bring to a pro model to be competitive, presuming it will have a much higher price than the EOS-R and the rest of the market?
The Canon main selling points over the years in my opinion have been the colour, AF and lenses...
The EOS-R does have nice Canon colour but in my opinion Panasonic S1 and the XT3 have now surpassed them
Their AF is no longer a clear market leader - Sony look like they are overtaking them
They have relied on their huge ef and efs lens range that people already own but this is a new mount and so this is no longer such a great selling point - they are giving away the adaptor with the camera now but as you say most people will hang onto their ef lenses
The DR and RS and crop is way behind the competition at the moment as are their video specs -  I'm not convinced they have good enough sensor tech to get that back. It feels like they are being left behind.
I would love to be wrong because I have a lot of Canon lenses and a couple of their cameras and if they they could create a decent stills and video hybrid camera I would buy it even if it was a bit more expensive than the competition. But I don't think they really care about the video side in their stills cameras, and I have little faith in them turning it round and so think  I'm going to sell all my Canon stuff, just not sure whether to go Panasonic or Fuji at the moment

Great feedback, thanks 

I don't do video, but I took this camera out at night shooting at ISO 3200 and it has nicest 4K I've seen and the IBIS is really impressive.
I'm traveling more this year and this camera definitely make me want to shoot more video than my 5D IV ever did.
I did one paid photo shoot, one afternoon and took it to Disneyland all day and it did not feel heavy at all.
I was nervous because of so much people on the internet complain about the weight but after trying at Panasonic event and using it for extended period of time, it feel so good and balance with a heavy lenses like Canon 24-70 2.8 II & Sigma 105 1.4 Art with hand strap and neck strap.
I don't have an issue with Canon 5D IV weight either. You should give it a try before listening to fanboys on the internet. I really like the ergonomic, features, and some thoughtful Panasonic has. The dynamic range & ISO on this thing is amazing compared to my Canon 5D IV/EOS R.

Camera seems to tick all of my boxes and I really like this fellas style. It does look huge in his tiny hands but it sounds like they haven't compromised on ergonomics, build quality or the IBIS and from all accounts it is a great camera to hold and use. Really need to get my hands on one to try, local photo stores don't hold it in stock here, have to order it which is a bit of a pain and isn't going to help them sell any
Don't personally see what the problem is with its size, with full frame lenses you want a camera  with a bit of heft - the Sony A7 is way too small, lenses seem to dangle off it (and the IBIS is rubbish) - to me the Canon 5d is a great ergonomic camera for taking photos with (not so much for video cause of the lack of EVF - I like to look through the viewfinder), and no one complains about its weight - the Panasonic S1 and 24-105 lens is lighter than Canon 5d with 24-105

That thing may have the best modern output hands down of all the new cameras. That stuff is impressive as heck in that video. Wow, and the CS is special also. I can only imagine a $10,000 Dollar Leica lens on a S1R.

finally i get a manual adapter to use my samyangs

you can use EF-S lenses in any mode but it won't "reduce the crop". automatically jumps to 1.74x for video. RS stays about the same. Bummer on both, i know!

How did any of you lot manage in film production a few years ago, AF has only just become semi reliable? You all talk like you can't work without it?
I'd say the RS is another major issue with the Eos-r - I've tried it and it is very noticeable and no you don't have to whip pan to see it. I had the Sony a6300 and I don't want to have to be so limited in how I move a camera again 

Camera seems to tick all of my boxes and I really like this fellas style. It does look huge in his tiny hands but it sounds like they haven't compromised on ergonomics, build quality or the IBIS and from all accounts it is a great camera to hold and use. Really need to get my hands on one to try, local photo stores don't hold it in stock here, have to order it which is a bit of a pain and isn't going to help them sell any
Don't personally see what the problem is with its size, with full frame lenses you want a camera  with a bit of heft - the Sony A7 is way too small, lenses seem to dangle off it (and the IBIS is rubbish) - to me the Canon 5d is a great ergonomic camera for taking photos with (not so much for video cause of the lack of EVF - I like to look through the viewfinder), and no one complains about its weight - the Panasonic S1 and 24-105 lens is lighter than Canon 5d with 24-105

Alexa rec709 based monitoring luts that is. I'll try to shoot some side by side Alexa and Z6 over the next week. Was asked to do this over on dvxuser.

I'm not missing the fact that £2100 is a lot to spend on essentially a hd hybrid in 2019 when all the other cameras offer decent 4k. It's not like 4k hasn't been available for many years on other cameras, Canon seems way behind on this, RS and DR. Tis a bummer cause I've got a lot of Canon lenses but I think I'm going to sell them, and the good old C100 and finally free myself from the constant disappointment of waiting for Canon to get their arse into gear

I'm not missing the fact that £2100 is a lot to spend on essentially a hd hybrid in 2019 when all the other cameras offer decent 4k. It's not like 4k hasn't been available for many years on other cameras, Canon seems way behind on this, RS and DR. Tis a bummer cause I've got a lot of Canon lenses but I think I'm going to sell them, and the good old C100 and finally free myself from the constant disappointment of waiting for Canon to get their arse into gear