Gregormannschaft

55 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Premiere is extremely poor at the moment.

The Resolve 14 BETA is more stable than Premiere in 2017.

And free... blows my mind.

Downloading the latest Resolve 14 now, and I am sure the performance and reliability is even better.

Adobe should apologise for being so poor, and give everyone an opt-out of the subscription service for a one off fee. Otherwise, the sub service is going to whither and die, people will move back to Apple and Blackmagic. It really is that bad. You can't have such a mission critical piece of software with such poor reliability for months on end.

I felt like their 2015 software was also awful and they kind of tidied everything up last year. Unfortunately, it was only a brief stable period and you're right, the software is atrocious now.

This is exciting. I'm done with Premiere after I finish a current project I'm working on, on my spec'd out Macbook Pro from 2015 (OK, a little old, but still...) it constantly crashes, stutters and screws up.

14 hours ago, Tanka prem said:

thanks for the quick response.

This photo is horrible. but I'm doing new tests now with sunlight. I'm with a 60d canon in standart mode wb auto next to the sony a7s trying to get manually to the white of the canon or real white, but it's impossible. the sony white is always dyed yellow or green. something?

Are you using an ND filter? Have you tried using a grey card for WB?

Brilliant. Would be interested in a black and white comparison. And how each camera matches with drone footage.
 

On 21/08/2017 at 4:31 PM, u4ia24 said:

Awesome video! So just the built in PP8 with SLOG3.cine and Cine4 gamma? No EOSHD Pro Color settings?

Yes, looks like that combo. And apologies for posting that here, not trying to downplay what Andrew did with his profile, which is provide a natural, punchy image straight out of the camera. The combo I posted is obviously meant for a bit of post work with colour.

1 hour ago, u4ia24 said:

What do you think about a comment made by Paul Leeming regarding Gamma and Color Modes? Are the Gamma modes interchangeable in EOSHD Pro Color?
 

 

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I judge picture profiles by the results and not tests. Don't get me wrong, these can be very useful and it's great to know that we should all be shooting on Cine1, but the best results I have seen have been with SLOG2 and Cine4 – when I film, the best, most natural results that I've achieved, have also been with these two profiles. This, for instance, is one of the strongest A7SII videos I've seen, and it was shot using the Cine 4 and SLOG3.cine gamma combo.
 

It's a real shame this conversation is still happening to be honest. Hopefully Sony's next cameras give us further colour improvement and we move on.

1 hour ago, Gregormannschaft said:

I bought a 1/4 Tiffen Black Pro Mist filter recently and was pretty impressed. It does amazing things to the highlights, giving a much gentler roll off and lends the image an all round 'classic' feel.

Here's one or two examples from a recent shoot that I quickly graded that show off what the 1/4 Black Pro Mist can do. 

1 hour ago, jonpais said:

I see several here, including @kidzrevil, swear by the Tiffen Black Pro Mist filters. I was reading Barry Braverman's blog and he seems to think those are best used in combination with vintage optics like the old Cooke zooms and Zeiss CP.2 lenses, and he recommends instead using the Tiffen Satin and Black Satin, as well as the Scheider Digicon and Black Magic types for general use with relatively low cost 4K cameras, camcorders and DSLRs. Does anyone here have experience with any of these filters?

I bought a 1/4 Tiffen Black Pro Mist filter recently and was pretty impressed. It does amazing things to the highlights, giving a much gentler roll off and lends the image an all round 'classic' feel.

11 minutes ago, Inazuma said:

I know the stated max load is 1200g but do you guys think it would be possible for it to handle 1500g?

They officially updated the max load to 1800g recently, after a firmware update. So, definitely yes.

1 hour ago, DaveAltizer said:

The idea that I am considering one or the other is weird...it makes sense that I would go with a C200 as a no brainer selection for video...but the quality of the stills and the fact that 1DX II has 8bit 4:2:2 internally along with a better touch AF system as discussed by mr Philip Bloom:

There is just some sort of MOJO that the 4k Canon DSLR's put out. 

 

 

I just love the look and the idea of a smaller form factor camera....I have also gotten used to and quite fond of the 1.3x crop from my 1DC and a 1DX II would be a natural upgrade for me.

What are your thoughts? 

Thoughts? Too much make up.

Can't argue that I'm interested in the GH5, but can someone show me some content from the camera that has truly blown them away?

I've had the A7SII for close to 2 years now and feel very much in-tune with it. I've found a colour profile in SLOG2 and a LUT that works every time (Thanks GFILM!) and produces great results. I could do with better slow mo, I could do with slightly more punchy, clean footage, but it's not essential. There's not a huge reason to upgrade, and I'm gonna preach the 'it's not about the camera' line to myself for a little while yet. If anything, the biggest downside with Sony is native lenses. They're still expensive, and I'm still always tempted to go with Canon and use my Metabones adapter. I just hate adding length and weight to the camera that way.

Anyway, from the specs, the GH5 looks great. There's just no way I'm buying a Speedbooster XL and a new set of lenses for slightly cleaner footage and slightly better slow mo.

Tip #1: Be grateful to anyone who gives you their time and advice. People help you get somewhere in this industry, not gear or good technique.

15 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

Ive always been very happy with the Edelkrone. Can just leave it permanently on the tripod. And like all their products its a solid build.

 

Meant to ask this when I first watched your video, what is that lens you're using at 1:11? It gives an absolutely stunning POV effect, really beautiful. Great work btw.

23 minutes ago, meanwhile said:

@jonpais You must have some idea what it is that you want to shoot... sports? weddings? nature and wildlife? food?

Honestly, no. I learn stuff for the sake of learning then see what happens.

anyhow, it sounds like you're spending a lot of time reading..

I wish. How can I? I can't find decent web resources and haven't found a decent book yet. All the above is a combination of what should be obvious to any competent stills shooter combined, as I said, with memories of a couple of conversations from years ago.

I would strongly advise hacking the camera for Cinelike D, it's a much nicer profile than Natural IMO. 

VERY useful - thanks!

 

Unfortunately, if you plan on manually focusing, the lenses you're intending to use are far from ideal. You'd be better off picking up some inexpensive cine lenses from Samyang/Rokinon if you plan on using a follow focus. 

That's the fly by wire focus?  I'm sure they'd work better, but compared to just buying a few filters and a shoulder gizmo, buying an extra set of lenses doesn't seem that inexpensive - I want the Panny and Oly lenses any way for stills, and each Samyang will cost me as much as the GX80 body. So I'll have to find a way of working around this.

I've an Takumar 55mm around. For a shorter fl, given this is just practice, I could use a CCTV lens???

Anyway - thanks for flagging that problem for me!

meanwhile, it sounds like you'd like some sort of crash course for video work. I'd recommend delving into Dave Dugdale's earlier posts and videos as he documented his learning process pretty extensively. I'd also recommend looking at Philipp Blooms stuff, specifically when it's related to a piece of equipment or camera you're using or plan to use. He typically gives very in-depth run throughs. 

This is a great thread.

I've been experimenting with colour profiles once again on the A7SII after settling with the GFILM recipe for SLOG2. I tried out PP Off and Cine 4, and what I couldn't get away from was that SLOG2 produces a certain look and texture that the other profiles simply can't match. Perhaps on one or two shots you could get close, but for most, there's a tonal graduation that is unique to LOG profiles. 

Yes, when I zoom into an image, there's more colour noise, but I can live with that given that the image as a whole is much more pleasing, more film-like when compared to the Cine gammas or PP off. 

8 hours ago, jase said:

I managed to contact the people who did this video and they were kindly enough to tell me they used a Zeiss Loxia 21mm 2.8 - in case anyone is interested, too

Dang, my apologies, far wider than I'd have imagined.

14 hours ago, noone said:

Personally, the 55 1.8 is the lens for me.       It can be found a LOT less than its list price (I paid a lot less even fairly early on) but to me it is worth every cent and has spoilt my lust for older 50-58mm normal lenses (I have had a lot and still have a few that no longer get a look in unless used on my M43 camera).

What about the Samyang 50 1.4 AF FE mount lens if price is an issue?

Also, the 28-70 FE kit lens is a nice enough handy lens (at least on the lower pixel count cameras) and for me, my native E mount lenses are the 55 and 28-70 and will soon add the 85 1.8 and that will do until I add another next year (maybe) with adapted lenses for the rest.

Actually, thanks to a decent job recently, money isn't too much of an issue and I wanted to take the opportunity to invest in some gear for the long term. Nice to hear some good feedback on the 55 1.8, I'm going to have a look into that. As a start, and only really because it was too much of a deal to pass up on, I bought the 28mm f2 from Amazon Prime Day for 319€. Bargain. 

5 hours ago, Evgeniy said:

Hey everyone,

I created custom Slog2 S-Gamut3.cine to REC709 LUTs because I wasn’t not very happy with the official LUTs or the ones that included with Davinci Resolve.

Inside the archive you will find technical Slog2 into REC709 LUT as well as more stylized LUTs for specific looks. I also included versions with exposure compensation -1EV for overexposed material and official LUTs by Sony for your convenience.

Get it here

Nice work! Also not happy with the official LUTS provided by Sony.

Just now, jase said:

Really? I would doubt that. take this shot for example:

I tried to to that with my GX80 and the Pana 15mm and put the camera close to my chest and I did not get a similar FOV. My guess is that this is more sth like a 24mm (FF equiv), but I am not sure...

I'm used to full frame, and I'd have guessed 50mm. Maybe I'm wrong, but certainly not as wide as a 24mm. I'll give it a go later when I have my camera and 24-105 at hand.

23 hours ago, jase said:

Guys, I need your advice for yet another "guess the focal length" session:

For sure the first 30sec are GoPro or equiv. But after that...? I really like this immersive feeling and would like to adopt such a thing.

I would wager that it's a 50mm. Doesn't look wide enough to be 35mm, doubt they would handhold/rig anything over 50mm. Could be a 40mm pancake also...?

While I'm here, are there any native Sony lens users out there?

I'm looking for some full frame options and would really appreciate feedback from folks on here if they had a favourite native lens. I love the character of vintage, but after doing event coverage last week, I'd really like the option of using some versatile zooms or solid, easy to use native primes. I have my eye on the 28mm because it's cheap, but I can't help but think that's an awkward focal length on full frame. The 35mm Sony is, from what I can see, way overpriced for an f2.8. As is the 55mm Zeiss, while the cheap Sony 50mm got awful reviews for it's AF. The only lens that might tempt me is the Sony 85mm f1.8, but I rarely do portraits.

I wish Sigma would hurry up with their native E-Mount ART lenses.

Early next year would be my bet.

2 hours ago, Shirozina said:

The Tamron is big, heavy, has horrendous distortion and (wide open) hopelessly outclassed in resolution by my 35-70 Contax. I'll return it and wait to see how the new Sigma and Tamron 24-70's perform but after playing with it for 1/2 a day I'm suddenly I'm not so convinced that I 'need' anything to replace the Contax. 

Youch, thanks for posting your thoughts. Here's hoping there's a new Sigma E-Mount lens coming later this year that fills that gap.

I'm looking into this focal length at the moment as I want to replace my 24-105mm L lens. It's been such a great workhorse, but after using the 24-70 2.8 GM lens I was blown away by how muddy and unsharp it was. I've looked into the Tamron 24-70 2.8 lens which is relatively cheap, that might also be worth a look?

1 hour ago, cojocaru27 said:

there is any update regarding the possible launch of a7s mark3?

have my eyes on gh5 and this is the only camera holding me back from taking the panasonic way. thx

From what I've read on SonyAlphaRumours, A7III to launch in Autumn this year, possible A7RIII next with 64MP sensor in early 2018, no rumours on a A7SIII - so probably spring 2018.

I found this which looks pretty helpful: