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22 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

The full featured P4K is 300$ more, who in the right mind will get a much lesser camera for such a small amount, while the next option is 6500$ more?!

They own the indie market with the P4K, they do not have to go cheaper. I am not even sure if they even can go lower anyway.

I mean I would buy another camera if the formfactor was even half the size. He speaks about micro so. That would be so much fun to bring on a day of just walking around. My husband uses the LX100-2 and I’m a little jealous of how easy he has it when we take our Sunday photography strolls and I need to carry my pocket4k sigma 18-35 combo beast. 

1 minute ago, Anaconda_ said:

What’s the happy medium with space to flexibility ? I was planning on using 8:1 but kinda thinking the QB options might be better

I don’t see a reason to use CB over CQ unless you definitely want 5:1 or 8:1. You get alot of footage with CQ 0 and 5. If you shoot 1080p you wouldn’t have to dump footage for a whole day of shooting with a 1TB card. 

So CB 3:1 and CQ 0 are both showing 153min, same with CQ 12:1 and QB 5 (611min).

I know CQ is a variable bitrate so does this mean, the number for CQ is only an estimate?

1 hour ago, Anaconda_ said:

With no DNG though, I wonder how they’ll handle the still frame  function. Will check that once I update. 

Stills are still DNG, just tried it out. Attached it below! 

And for those interested and don't wanna calculate;

With my T5 1TB I get 153min on both CB 3:1 and CQ0. (4K DCI, 24fps).

CB 5:1 gives me 256min and Q5 is a whopping 611min.

A001_03051107_S001.dng

Also, this made me giggle;

This is 1080p 24fps BRAW Q5 (Prores Proxy is almost 4000min lol)

I feel like I’ve seen a video when people are removing the flaps covering the inputs outputs, but when I try to remove them it feels like I’ll break them. Are they not removable?

53 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

They look more filmic than the video does. Interesting.

Because a lot of people still don’t know how to color video correctly. They slap on some adjustments to one frame of the shot and then move on to the next. I see it all the time. Working with the stills is easier as you only have that one frame and then, working with say ACR, makes it, again, so much easier. 

2 hours ago, Kisaha said:

Half cage is pretty cool!

the 8sinn seems fine. If you were buying Tilta, would you get the ssd holder that fits just above the screen?

The SSD cable is from the 8sinn implementation?

What do you think about the HDMI adapter?

I didn't know they were still people packets of cigarettes in this world (joke)!!

I would probably buy the SSD holder if I came across it readily in stock. I don’t mind the 8sinn for now, I’ve never in my life accidentally pulled the cord out while shooting, and am confident that I won’t at the moment.

The hdmi adapter is great, I do wish there was one for the mini xlr as well but don’t know how that would work. 

And YES! Haha, I do not like those vapes. 

I forgot to order the Tilta T5 holder but my 8sinn works just as good for now. 

2 hours ago, dslnc said:

I haven't lost recordings either. The times that the battery depleted during recording the files were alway there and working after a automatic camera shutdown.

Same here, when battery dies randomly, I still have an intact perfect file saved when camera is turned back on. 

Also so got my Tilta cage set yesterday! Beyond happy with it, looks great, feels great!

Play around with the dynamics processing first before adding reverb, some eq after that. And then don’t make the reverb too wet!

On 2/12/2019 at 8:09 PM, drm said:

For everyone that hasn't seen a BMPCC4K freak out, I finally managed to record mine in action. The camera did this several times prior to the firmware upgrade to 6.1. I had hoped that the firmware upgrade would fix the screen glitching problem. Unfortunately, as I was setting up for a shoot the other day, the camera freaked out again with the 6.1 firmware. I managed to grab my phone and record before the camera did anything harmful, like formatting the T5 drive again.

Note that the camera was turned on and not being touched in any way when this started. You can tell when this problem is starting because it is like someone is tapping the screen to change the focus point. It will eventually open the menus and start going crazy, as you can see in this video. This happens with no apparent pattern. It has done it on the last two shoots. But, after restarting the camera, it didn't do it again, despite the camera running one of the days for 5-6 hours straight.

I spoke with BM about it yesterday and I am sending the camera in for repair tomorrow. The problem is apparently uncommon, as the BM tech support person said that he had never heard of it happening before my report. I know that someone on here commented that their camera had also had this problem. I think he said it was a bad digitizer. If your camera does this, contact BM right away.

Good luck everyone!

 

This happened to me back in October and they replaced my unit 3 days later. Haven’t seen it with my replacement model gladly. But that they had never seen it before is BS, my thread and video is still on the BMD forums where BMD people are responding to it.

59 minutes ago, graphicnatured said:

From Tilta.

 

I preordered from Tilta Dec 2nd, haven’t heard a word

23 minutes ago, thephoenix said:

maybe the bmpcc4k will shoot 8k before i can get one ?

I'll sell mine for 8K to you

14 hours ago, JordanWright said:

Looks like Blackmagic Raw isn't to far away! Someone from the Blackmagic forum went to a Blackmagic camera masterclass and noticed the P4K was running firmware with Blackmagic Raw installed. 

WOW! 

4 hours ago, xzobinx said:

I do believe that the samsung T5 issues only isolated to the 500gb or 250 gb models. I have 1Tb and 2Tb versions and never have any problems connecting. The 500 gb I tested on the other hand did established some trouble connecting pre FW6.1 

As we are all aware even in the same line of media the higher capacity normally have higher spec. I suspect this unreliable ssd connection issue coming from the fact that BM should have quoted the specific model in their list instead of the whole line up. 

 Have 1TB and 500GB and haven’t had issues at all. I received my P4K in September. 

8 minutes ago, JordanWright said:

Can you post some images off the pocket 4k attached to the G2X? it seems like the best option for the Pocket 4k currently

I'm going to put it up and try to record some this weekend. Will post pics and some footage after that alright.

9 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

I am not sure why most suggesting Rode mics for cold shoe mics.

The best solution for me and my use is the MKE 440, plain and simple.

Then the MKE400 for lower (and smaller) and Azden DMX-30 for higher (and a dual purpose, as it is stereo/mono switchable) are very good solutions.

The VideoMicro is the one Rode I own, great for the money, but with a ton of limitations that most people do not even realize.

I bought this mic years ago (2012-13 maybe?), it’s an NTG2 and was on flash sale at BH. Again, not an audio guy so used it for scratch for the OG pocket back then. 

Just now, Kisaha said:

that's what I thought when I was byuing the heavier gimbal of its class, the DJI Ronin S, but alas!

I wasn't aware that the Tilta is the better of its crop, I assumed allnare similar.

How is the footage? It is as steady as you did expect?

Again, I only had about 30min so I didn’t record anything as it took me a while to learn how to put it together and mount everything. I am renting it out next week and wanted to make sure it works haha. One thing I got from it though is that it’s damn heavy and will prob look into buying the dual pistol grips and maybe attach it with a harness to my body. 

Hello!

So yesterday I had 30min to finally play with my G2X and this is my first motorized gimbal ever. I attached the P4K and Sigma 18-35mm, and it was clearly front heavy. So with no experience whatsoever, I tried to balance it and it went okay, but still either it fell backwards or forward depending on where I had the center. So I just started the damn thing after being bored “balancing” and it balanced it perfectly for me. I was shocked, it literally flipped the whole thing straight for me. 

Is that a thing?! Do we not have to balance gimbals anymore?

EDIT: I just scrolled up and saw the previous comments, I am really hopping not to open Pandora’s box by writing in this thread, oooppppssss

I missed that some people actually wanted to see what I was up to with this thread. So I’ll try to make this quick, cause it might not be super interesting.

I shot a 2.5h long performance of Cabaret on Jan 30th. I didn’t know I had to do audio but see my set up below for scratch audio. Anyway, their own audio station broke down and they didn’t record sound for me. On top of that through out the whole performance 70% of the cast’s lavs wouldn’t work. (It was a small intimate place so for being there watching it, I don’t think anyone really cared). Anyway, because of this, I tried my best to watch audio meters on the P4K jumping between 80-100% through out the show. 

So bla bla, next day, because their own audio was non-exsistent I had to use my own for the final delivery, and in my DAW the wave form was all over the place obviously. So my question for this thread was

“Is there an easy way to make the lows and highs just normalize towards say -12dB?”

I know “normalize” might not be the correct term here.

Anyway, I ended up just going through the whole file manually adjusting volume. Then cleaning it up and mastering it. It took a few hours but yeah, it’s done now. 

7 hours ago, drm said:

That "feature" of only playing files in your current recording mode is just bizarre. It is horrible from a user interface perspective. How is a user supposed to know the format of the files on the card or drive? The camera should at least show you all the files on the card and change mode as necessary to play that file type. Is there a way to see what is on your card, other than just pressing play and using the FF RW buttons?

I can't believe that someone actually approved that "feature" for release to the public. All of my other cameras just play the file, regardless of what mode the camera is currently using. Many other cameras give you thumbnail and other views of the card content. Do other BM cameras behave the same way with regard to file playback as the P4K? 

Right, I can't see a single reason for this be like this. If they think it's smoothens the user experience by say, only showing raw clips cause I'm shooting raw, it's not. If I was shooting prores earlier and now Raw, and I click the playback button, my latest clips should be shown first right, so I'm not having to scroll through tons of pores and be like "OMG CAN IT JUST HIDE PRORES CAUSE I'M SHOOTING RAW NOW". That would NEVER happen, cause the prores would be AFTER THE RAW I'm shooting at the moment. Obviously this would go the other way around as well. BUT LIKE, what other camera does this in the world!? Sorry, i'm kind of pissed off about this as I had to delete a whole card on set last week cause I didn't have time to figure out what format I had shot stuff on it.

21 minutes ago, drm said:

Yep. I was pissed. Luckily, I was just testing the camera at the time and only had test footage on the drive. Every once in a while, the screen will just go crazy and start acting like someone is clicking around on the screen. I have seen it happen maybe 3 or 4 times. At least once, the camera decided to open the external drive menu, then clicks on through until the drive is reformatted. I haven't seen this with the new firmware. I will let everyone know if I see it again.

I had that screen bug and they replaced it right away. Received a new camera just 3 days after I spoke to customer support. 

So this update, assume its good with all the fixes. Still wondering why they couldn’t add the SD card as a 3rd input. I will prob not buy a Cfast card anytime soon and was shooting a gig that went on longer than expected and filled up my SSD. I didn’t know if it would automatically switch to the SD or not so turned it off and pulled out the SSD so a I could see the SD card. Also, obviously this is QOL as well but I had to flip around all codecs to see what I had on the card before formatting it and it all just took so much time (I was shooting a live event) so for the future, maybe a media player that could see all files, RAW and Prores in ALL flavors. 

Sure I’m bummed about no BRAW announcement yet either but I’m willing to wait until it’s perfected. 

EDIT FIXED CAN DELETE THREAD

12 minutes ago, mercer said:

Can you assign FC to a function button and toggle it on and off? How about while recording?

Out of the box, FC is on F1, LUT on F2 and Guides on F3. You can toogle them on and off as much as you want during and off recording.