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What kind of joke is this? Another reason I am very happy I left Europe a few years ago for the US. I make more money, everything is more simple and this freaking law does not exist. People don't do strikes every day, and are nicer too. 
There are many things wrong in the US especially in politics and craziness (guns,...). But on a daily basis in the real world, it's far better than Europe. At least until I get shot .
And I have traveled to tons of countries and lived multiple years each on 4 different continents. 

What kind of joke is this? Another reason I am very happy I left Europe a few years ago for the US. I make more money, everything is more simple and this freaking law does not exist. People don't do strikes every day, and are nicer too. 
There are many things wrong in the US especially in politics and craziness (guns,...). But on a daily basis in the real world, it's far better than Europe. At least until I get shot .
And I have traveled to tons of countries and lived multiple years each on 4 different continents. 

This is such a bad argument. 
First of all Nikon and Canon are supposed to know how to make a camera already. It’s not their first camera at all. 
Secondly, it’s not about the generation number, it’s about which generation year it is. So if Olympus releases in 2025 a FF camera when everyone is doing 8K60p, because it’s their first generation you expect It to be what, a 2015 competitor ? Non sense. 
All those company have been doing cameras for years and have access to the same things. So no, there is no reason at all that because they did not have a FF mirrorless before, that it should not match competition. It’s even easier for them because they can analyse easy where Sony failed and won, and can develop the camera accordingly. They can see people yelled at Sony for 1 SD port, so they can just put 2 (well they didn’t). 
NO EXCUSE, especially for Canon. I agree the Z7 is a great camera I was just disappointed at the test from Max. But the camera in general is great, unlike the EOS R joke. 

This is the video I wanted @Andrew Reid to make. I have to say the Z7 is quite disappointing. I am also disappointed by XT3 120p cause it does not look really better than the Sony. 
The Canon I fully expected that. But man, what a disaster! This is so embarrassing for Canon. This company should go bankrupt. No one should pay that much for getting such disgusting results. And thanks god he did not do rolling shutter tests! 2.5K for worst rolling shutter, worst 4K, worst 1080p, worst slowmo, and insane crop? Thanks, but no thanks. This company is a joke. 

This is the video I wanted @Andrew Reid to make. I have to say the Z7 is quite disappointing. I am also disappointed by XT3 120p cause it does not look really better than the Sony. 
The Canon I fully expected that. But man, what a disaster! This is so embarrassing for Canon. This company should go bankrupt. No one should pay that much for getting such disgusting results. And thanks god he did not do rolling shutter tests! 2.5K for worst rolling shutter, worst 4K, worst 1080p, worst slowmo, and insane crop? Thanks, but no thanks. This company is a joke. 

The 1970's called. It wants Jimmy's profile picture back!
SIMPLY THE BEST!

I do not agree. I might be wrong cause I have 0 info on upcoming Sony, but Sony is the company that has a Cine line that protect it the less. Secondly for colors it is rumored that at least the next A7S III will have Venice color science which is reputed among the best. Thirdly, when shooting in Cine4 when I had the A7III I had no issue with colors. Fourthly, I do not see Sony releasing a XT3 competitor at same price or more (A6500 was already XT3 price) with less spec. And it is safe to imagine it will have IBIS and the A7 battery which is miles ahead of Fuji battery. 

Again, only speculation, but if I were Sony I would not release this camera if specs at least did not match XT3. 
Why? They are the guys who gave us all the best specs in the past. Why are you guys pessimistic about Sony specs where they constantly have been ahead of the competition past 5 years?
What I am skeptical about is Sony's ability to ever release a camera with proper ergonomics and menus lol because again history shows.  
 

You know nothing, and you are blind ?

The XC10 is such a good concept. If only it came with a S35 or FF sensor, interchangeable EF mount and 4K60p.

I don't care what you believe. If you want to shoot 4K go ahead. All I know is that in a blind test you would not be able to tell them apart.

I didn't realize you were blind. Sorry for your loss. But boy at your age, hmm, sad.  Just kidding. I find it hard to believe you can't tell the difference. Even an old turd like me can see the difference between 2K and 4K. You Need a better monitor.

In blue: valid argument even though with SD and storage price today, well.....
In red: sorry but this is simply not true at all... like this is the most untrue thing I have read this week online. 

In blue: valid argument even though with SD and storage price today, well.....
In red: sorry but this is simply not true at all... like this is the most untrue thing I have read this week online. 

Heck the 1080p on the M50 is using DPAF and is as sharp as a Canon C100. And has a Flippy screen. I don't see why a person would pay the money for a EOS-R to be honest.
Sure 4K is not so hot unless it is locked off, or has a Speedbooster on it. But for 1080p this thing is a poor mans C100 output wise. And for 500 bucks at times.
 
https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-eos-m50-4k-vs-1080p-video-performance-review/

Lol. We can clearly see this is  @jonpais 

By the way he says the camera will be better than customer expectations. Then he says customer want 4K60p 10 bit 4:2:2 with better AF. So this means the camera will be better than that. 
Looking forward to getting my 4K120p 12bit A7S III with Canon-like DPAF !! ?

By the way he says the camera will be better than customer expectations. Then he says customer want 4K60p 10 bit 4:2:2 with better AF. So this means the camera will be better than that. 
Looking forward to getting my 4K120p 12bit A7S III with Canon-like DPAF !! ?

By the way he says the camera will be better than customer expectations. Then he says customer want 4K60p 10 bit 4:2:2 with better AF. So this means the camera will be better than that. 
Looking forward to getting my 4K120p 12bit A7S III with Canon-like DPAF !! ?

I used to use a6500 on the first version crane. Footage was smooth as anything and it was because of the ibis. I put other cameras on there and it just wasn't near the same. Ibis is a necessity. 

“I am not worried about bricking my camera, because it’s already a brick with a 1.8x crop and rolling shutter to make the leaning tower of Pisa look straight.”
that moment when I laugh hard in the plane and everyone looks at me... 

“I am not worried about bricking my camera, because it’s already a brick with a 1.8x crop and rolling shutter to make the leaning tower of Pisa look straight.”
that moment when I laugh hard in the plane and everyone looks at me... 

“I am not worried about bricking my camera, because it’s already a brick with a 1.8x crop and rolling shutter to make the leaning tower of Pisa look straight.”
that moment when I laugh hard in the plane and everyone looks at me... 

“I am not worried about bricking my camera, because it’s already a brick with a 1.8x crop and rolling shutter to make the leaning tower of Pisa look straight.”
that moment when I laugh hard in the plane and everyone looks at me... 

“I am not worried about bricking my camera, because it’s already a brick with a 1.8x crop and rolling shutter to make the leaning tower of Pisa look straight.”
that moment when I laugh hard in the plane and everyone looks at me... 

When you watch the FHD footage of this camera you start see this option should not even exist considering the awful output. 
Absolutely 
 
to to come back on topic, I think the eoshd community and similar video minded people are aware of what RS is, and we don’t buy a camera because of Peter M review. The thing is we might represent 10% of people who buy those cameras, even for video use. 90% of buyers are not educated. You might think at 2-3K price point only pros and passionate educated photographer and videographers buy but no, most of them are the Average Joe with more money than other Joe and he wants good camera. 
You would be very surprised how many 5D canon sold to people who shoot JPG full auto only.
My whole point is Andrew is right, and I think those influencers have a big influence on a lot of people buying those cameras. So it’s a shame when their reviews are far from reality whether it’s because they are paid or because they are poorly educated themselves. Sometimes I watch absurdities on video technical aspects on YouTube with people having millions of followers.