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On the mark, as per usual. What Canon is doing makes no sense at all to me...and apparently I'm not alone. I think the crazy thing is what you pointed out in your open letter; they give something wonderful and exceptional and, in the same model, take something else equally wonderful or essential away.
What kind of marketing is that? What kind of thinking is that? As I've said before, is this some twisted revenge for WWII? Add to your takeaways taking the auto focus feature from Log in the 1dC. WTF! Who the Hell made that decision?
Plus, what they offer on the one hand is terrific, but what they don't offer is downright weird. Where is their full frame constant 2.8 zoom lens? Sigma can make a crop sensor lens at 1.8 and the best Canon can do is 4.0?!? It's all very strange.
snatch.tiff

Just look at the prices for an adapter to control aperture for Canon EF vs Nikon F, heaps more!
In fact for Sony FZ mount it is prohibitively expensive on a budget. For RED One MX and Samsung NX it is nonexistent. 
But for all it is cheap and easy to use my Nikon F mount lenses on them.

I like that Nikon F mount lenses are more easy / cheaper to adapt than anything else.
 
Venus Imaging is bringing out a 17mm f4 TS for Nikon very soon.

His dentistry friends who he tagged:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002625780591
https://www.facebook.com/ghader.moustafamanah
https://www.facebook.com/Nism.nougat
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004619610557
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004469431009
 
Amused somewhat by his latest FB update:
 
Oh FFS, he recently got a PS4:
 
Yet cries he is too broke and poor to repay those who he robbed??? 

His dentistry friends who he tagged:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002625780591
https://www.facebook.com/ghader.moustafamanah
https://www.facebook.com/Nism.nougat
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004619610557
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004469431009
 
Amused somewhat by his latest FB update:
 
Oh FFS, he recently got a PS4:
 
Yet cries he is too broke and poor to repay those who he robbed??? 

Switch from PAL to NTSC.

Nope, Panasonic doesn't have Canon's knack or track record of such epic level let downs.

Well yes, this information comes from the experience of speaking to the rental guys on a weekly basis. 
I recently asked for the C300 II for an event job (interviews and highlights) and they said "nobody wants the C300 II as everyone is using the FS7, so we don't have it. You can take the original C300 though." 
I'm sure this will be very different geographically, however I know for sure the FS7 is the UK's biggest seller and most rented camera of the year. I bet the C300 II is hot cakes in other parts of the world. 
I feel Canon just missed with the C300 II. If it had 4k 60p and better slow motion like the FS7.... it would have no problem being sold and rented everywhere.
Most of the stuff I've seen online (not all of it) from the 1DXII looks like it's wrapped in a reflective sheet of plastic. It's how the standard profiles are managing exposure from shadows to highlights, it's really quite harsh and not appealing to lots of us. 
I'm still interested in the 1DX II til this day, however it's missing that elusive C-log feature that will correct my biggest reservation. I'm not spending that kind of money on a camera that doesn't have a log mode. 
Also the crippled HDMI port is very very silly. Do Canon have something against it's users for using an Atomos for a better codec? It's things like this which frustrate me about Canon, I can see why some people get so irritated by their conservatism. 

Nope, Panasonic doesn't have Canon's knack or track record of such epic level let downs.

Nope, Panasonic doesn't have Canon's knack or track record of such epic level let downs.

Over at BMCuser, someone posted that they dropped their Mini 4.6k, it landed on the handle & cracked the casing, causing damage to the mother board inside - BM wouldn't repair it! However, it does produce lovely images, if used by someone who knows what they're doing...
I personally think that they'll keep going, but will revert to smaller packages (box like cams) - if they can figure out how to heat sink in a smaller package (the same user took his Mini apart & the majority of the camera is dedicated to the heat sink module). You've got to remember that BM cameras are budget cameras & they will have to cut corners in quality/build to keep the prices competative & low.
You've got to admit that the images coming from these cameras can be awesome & I hope that they struggle through, just like RED did at the beginning. I believe that in another 10yrs time, we'll be talking about BM cameras in the same breath as RED & maybe ARRI.
The biggest problem that they have at the moment is lack of user knowledge & this is due to the low price of some of their cameras - for every great user, there are at least 10 numpties whose lack of filming knowledge gets exposed as soon as they pick one up. They are not DSLRs & shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence, let alone compared to them.
If you don't get this, then DO NOT buy one, because you're probably the type of person that hasn't the time or patience to learn how to use them.
Just look at all the [stupid BS] hate aimed at the Pocket camera: poor battery life, bad screen etc... 45mins time limit for battery & SD card whilst filming PR. The screen is by a country mile not the worst i've ever used & I seem to manage very well nailing focus - I wear glasses, which adds an extra dimension of difficulty to the whole thing. 
And these same people talk about wanting to replicate a filmic image, just imagine them using a film camera that has a max filming time of 12mins - people with no skill or patience to learn will complain about anything if you let them, it's how they cover up for their short comings. It's a crying shame, but it's their loss........

What I love about Canon:
The image. The color science, the ergonomics, the menus.
What I hate about Canon:
Everything else. Here are just a few of the top contenders on my hate list:
Before I began using Canon's late last year I had alway heard about their glass and all the fantastic choices they offer. Maybe so, but not for video shooters who do a lot of hand held work. I have a C300 Mk II --a wonderful camera. But can I find a zoom lens that is at least 2.8 with IS? No sirreee Bob, it doesn't exist except in the EF-S version of the 17-55 2.8 and IS---works a treat on the humble 80 and 70D...with dual pixel and follow focus--the whole nine yards, and probably does the same on the C100 Mk II. But provides nothing but basic AF on the C300 Mk II. 
I have a Tamron 2.8 zoom with IS. Works on the 1dC--but the C300 Mk II won't even read it. WTF! Who the Hell does this kind of stuff to their customers?!?
Now, I could see this if Canon was pushing you to buy a more expensive full frame option---but none is provided. I am positive a firmware update would provide those full focus features to the EF-S--which is a very sharp lens--for the C300 Mk II. Yes, it's noisy, but it would still be usable in many circumstances. But in lieu of that Canon offers: nothing, NADA, Nichts, zippo, zilch. Come on Canon. How about some 2016 lenses.
The only concession Canon has made for run and gun shooters is the XC10. As good as it is, how about providing it in an APS-C sensor and a 2.8 constant f-stop? How about doing something innovative instead of leading from behind, making your customers wait for years, and then never giving the market what they ask for?
Canon marketing and product planners--you suck. Stop cheating one product in a pathetic attempt to protect another. Think about your customers for a change---believe me you will sell more.
Honest to God, if there was a mirrorless company that could provide wonderful color science, 4kDCI with reasonably substantial bit rates and a Log gamma, that offered IN CAMERA stabilization and lens flexibility like Sony does I'd never give Canon a second glance, and never buy another over-priced Canon product.
And speaking of over-priced: what kind of company gouges their customers for their new models, and when they (and their distributors) don't get the sales numbers they hoped for (because the price was so absurdly out of line with the rest of the market), they stab those who were loyal to them by cutting the price by thousands--down to about what the product should have been in the first place. Here's what I learned in running my company: price a fine product fairly and reasonably and you will have robust sales out of the chute and sustained sales in the long run. How many people don't buy a Canon product at the outset, use what they have satisfactorily, and wait it out for the big gouge to end and save thousands? How many of those would buy earlier if the pricing was fair and reasonable for the quality? In my business experience a LOT would. 
What company repeatedly stabs their customers in the backs like Canon does? I mean these sorts of things can't be avoided 100% by any company, the one I own included. But with Canon it almost seems pathological--like a kind of revenge for WWII--oops, did I say that?
Am I full of it, or does anyone else feel as frustrated as I am?
Oh, Sony, if you only provided a decent image and DPAF and skin tones that don't make people look like shape shifting weirdos from another planet.
Who provides a field camera that doesn't have to be tethered to a tripod, has a usable form factor, video features like peaking, waveform, and zebra; a camera that will give you a beautiful image from decent sized sensor, reasonably fast lenses, 2016 quality IS--and beautiful skin tones, and I don't have to mortgage my house to own it. Tell me and I'll buy it! Promise.
I'm not asking for the moon here. Just a camera that incorporates common technologies that have been found in cameras of almost all price levels for several years now. Andrew once wrote in his article on forgotten older cameras: "We're being diddled with."--I think that's the quote.
Indeed!
 
 
 

7D with ML raw is shit.
5Dmk3 with ML raw is great.
I'd also suggest BMMCC or secondhand BMPCC. Or maybe even BMCC MFT if you don't care about the weight. 
 
FS5 / KineMINI / Terra / UM4.6K / FS700 / etc are all good as well if your budget stretches up that high.

Oh I thought you wheren't disappointed on the 5d4 .  You're going to hate when they come out with those specs at 1500-1600 dollars. Because you spent your money on Canon all over again.

If Nikon can release a D750 successor that has no crop with its 4K then Nikon has a good shot at stealing away a healthy sized chunk of the market from Canon.

I'd seriously consider the Panasonic G7 in 4K, plus GX80, and the Sony A6000 (& if budget can stretch... the a63000).
Or secondhand BMPCC  (but no 60p, and a new BMMCC with 60p costs quite a bit more).
Otherwise nope, I think there is not many other solid good alternatives.
Waiting a little while for the Panasonic G80 to be announced might be a smart move. 

It *could* be done, I'm just pointing out reasons why I personally feel that is unlikely. 

Not gonna happen. Nikon's main problem is they don't have their own fab. Having Sony as your sole supplier makes you encounter with some consequences. I think they will deliver a 1.56x crop (6000/3840). Do you really think Sony would give them a 6k/30fps sensor, while cheap enough to put in a $2k body?
I just fear they don't realize how important is D750 line for Nikon shooters who need a hybrid system. 

C300ii is a beast. You will see it near 3000$ in no less than 10 years time.
For whoever mentions Sony A7 series as the only true hybrid cameras, I am pointing them to the active little community of Samsung NX1 owners around here. In our opinion, NX1 are more hybrid than hybrid! I am not going to mention specs (even though most are in favor of the NXs) but ergonomics/battery life/menu/heat management is from your cameras of the future.

If Nikon can release a D750 successor that has no crop with its 4K then Nikon has a good shot at stealing away a healthy sized chunk of the market from Canon.

Any GH series should be MFT sized otherwise piss off too many photographers etc
A mid range $7K ish to $10K ish should be S35 so can have a broad appeal.
But an FS5/C100 competitor at the up to $5K ish price point could perhaps have MFT mount and even MFT sized sensor, as can have plenty of cross over with GH and other MFT bodies in terms of its appeal and target market. 

I am a bit uncertain if a swappable mount can have MFT as an option, wouldn't MFT be too thin?? As the base mount underneath needs a certain amount of thickness itself! 
Ummmm.... the DVX200 that Andrew was referring to, is a different camera to the HVX200!
Totally agreed, Panasonic needs a camera in the midrange between mirrorless stills camera and a Varicam so people have a contious upgrade path to follow. 

This is a very very VERY powerful feature!

For evidence of this you don't need to look far, just look at the many many ***MANY*** people who went:

Canon T2i => 60D => 5Dmk2/mk3/6D => C100 => C300

A truly rediculously large LARGE number of people followed this exact upgrade path! (or similar) 
Canon must've made millions and millions from this upgrade path, which people followed as it is comfortable / easy / simple to do.
And sadly people like that, they don't want to spend dozens / hundreds of hours on forums like EOSHD to consider models from other brands, when they feel they've got a simple straightforward upgrade ahead of them already to take. 
I think that might be a reference to the next camera.... which is the G80, that will have the same sensor as the GX85.

However the GH5 is a bit further off into the future, so harder to predict its sensor. 

As for even if it does have the same sensor, will the crop be the same? Well that depends on more factors than just the sensor! It might be the sensor currently can handle it, but the processors with it can't. Thus they could upgrade the processing power but keep the old sensor, and be able to do 4K without a crop. Or the bottleneck might be the sensor itself after all.....   we don't know. 

If Nikon can release a D750 successor that has no crop with its 4K then Nikon has a good shot at stealing away a healthy sized chunk of the market from Canon.

What makes you think that?
Its been two years since last series of GH was realesed
i think Panny gona surprise us not with just 10bit but more 
they always listen to community 
and people have spoken ?
10bit
lowlight improvement
IBiS
V-Log (maybe) lut preview
too much to ask after two years?
looking forward for Photokina press

Just because I'm curious, I did a bit of digging into how much the total cost would be practically speaking. As we all know the body itself is merely the start of the costs!

A common big big cost with these professional cameras is memory, Arri Alexa Classic uses SxS cards. Even the oldest SxS cards secondhand are "cheap" but very expensive if you're used to SD card pricing! And older SxS cards are no good in an Arri Alexa as they can't handle the full capabilities of the Arri Alexa Classic of 2K 4:3 ProRes 444:
https://www.arri.com/fileadmin/media/arri.com/camera/Digital_Cameras/Camera_Comparison/SUP_11_Data_Rates_ALEXA_Classic_and_XT.pdf
But you probably wouldn't be buying a 4:3 version, rather the 16:9 version which would tend to be cheaper. In that case, the data rate is lower, might be able to get away with the older SxS cards? (even I have a couple, came along for free with my Sony F3! However.... an Arri Alexa would need several more! As you'd be filling them up too fast)
But it just the target rate listed in that PDF, and not the max rate. Thus these older SxS cards could not work if they get maxed out, but... this adapter for SxS cards using cheap SD cards (such as any of the many fast SD cards many of us have for our BMPCCs!) can do up to 480MB/s, which gives a bit more head room.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/786662-REG/Sonnet_SD_SXS_E34_SDHC_Adapter_for_SxS.html
However... not much more head room! So if that isn't enough, can always get this instead:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/840666-REG/Sony_QDA_EX1_SC1_XQD_ExpressCard_Adapter.html

Yes, it is XQD cards which are much more expensive than SD cards!  But XQD cards are heaps heaps cheaper than SxS Pro cards!! :-D Plus XQD cards have came down in price a lot lately, and I expect XQD to drop even more in price as various more affordable cameras come to market that use XQD (FS5/D500/D5/etc). 
They're already more affordable than what we've paid for SD cards in the very recent past (I paid more for my BMPCC cards when I bought them):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1261721-REG/sony_qdg128e_j_128gb_xqd_g_e_memory_card.html
And you can be sure these XQD cards are way way faster than needed for 2K ProRes 444.
They've been tested in the Sony F5/F55 (which also uses SxS cards, and needs very fast cards):
http://www.hingsberg.com/index.php/2013/12/xqd-cards-for-sony-f5-f55/
Thus that is media "solved" in an affordable way! Thousands saved here.

However the really big sticking point is lenses! Even "cheap" PL lenses can cost a fortune.  And if one of us was to be mad enough to buy an Arri Alexa, we sadly might not have anything left over to buy PL lenses..... could we use our existing lenses? A Nikon F mount would be ideal in my eyes, and I've done some digging but failed to turn up anything There might maybe exist a very rare copy or two of Arri Alexas that have been modded (Panavised Alexas are the obvious more common example), but basically it seems not to be an option for us. Arri Amira & Mini do have common options for adapters to use Nikon F mount lenses and other options, but of course those are much *much* more recent cameras and would cost a lot more to buy either an Amira or Mini!
So hmmmm.... what to do?? Seems any Arri Alexa purchase would require also getting a set of Sony CineAlta PL / XEEN / PL modded stills lenses (such as GL Optics) / SLR Magic PL / RED lenses on the "cheap" to use with the camera, which a working set could easily run up to another ten thousand give or take a few thousand either side. 

Either that or wait for an Amira or Mini to fall down in price far enough to become "affordable", which would be a very looooong wait indeed!
 
Edit: hmmmm..... I stumbled across this, but any more info is sadly lacking! But just maybe maaaaybe....  does an aftermarket Nikon F mount for the Arri Alexa Classic exist that can be added on by the user?? 
https://web.archive.org/web/20120321192849/http://www.hotrodcameras.com/?p=3728
Then I found this:
http://cinescopophilia.com/hot-rod-cameras-2012-roadmap-includes-nikoncine-alexa-mount/
But now the trail runs cold :-/ 

If this can be found then it would shave thousands and thousands of dollars off the total outlay cost for a DSLR shooter to step up and buy a secondhand Arri Alexa Classic!

Edit 2: Hooray!!! Have found now THE ANSWER!! This mod exists:
http://www.leitax.com/conversion/Cine/Alexa/index.html
Can buy it here:
http://www.leitax.com/Leica-lens-for-Cinema-cameras.html

Just because I'm curious, I did a bit of digging into how much the total cost would be practically speaking. As we all know the body itself is merely the start of the costs!

A common big big cost with these professional cameras is memory, Arri Alexa Classic uses SxS cards. Even the oldest SxS cards secondhand are "cheap" but very expensive if you're used to SD card pricing! And older SxS cards are no good in an Arri Alexa as they can't handle the full capabilities of the Arri Alexa Classic of 2K 4:3 ProRes 444:
https://www.arri.com/fileadmin/media/arri.com/camera/Digital_Cameras/Camera_Comparison/SUP_11_Data_Rates_ALEXA_Classic_and_XT.pdf
But you probably wouldn't be buying a 4:3 version, rather the 16:9 version which would tend to be cheaper. In that case, the data rate is lower, might be able to get away with the older SxS cards? (even I have a couple, came along for free with my Sony F3! However.... an Arri Alexa would need several more! As you'd be filling them up too fast)
But it just the target rate listed in that PDF, and not the max rate. Thus these older SxS cards could not work if they get maxed out, but... this adapter for SxS cards using cheap SD cards (such as any of the many fast SD cards many of us have for our BMPCCs!) can do up to 480MB/s, which gives a bit more head room.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/786662-REG/Sonnet_SD_SXS_E34_SDHC_Adapter_for_SxS.html
However... not much more head room! So if that isn't enough, can always get this instead:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/840666-REG/Sony_QDA_EX1_SC1_XQD_ExpressCard_Adapter.html

Yes, it is XQD cards which are much more expensive than SD cards!  But XQD cards are heaps heaps cheaper than SxS Pro cards!! :-D Plus XQD cards have came down in price a lot lately, and I expect XQD to drop even more in price as various more affordable cameras come to market that use XQD (FS5/D500/D5/etc). 
They're already more affordable than what we've paid for SD cards in the very recent past (I paid more for my BMPCC cards when I bought them):
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1261721-REG/sony_qdg128e_j_128gb_xqd_g_e_memory_card.html
And you can be sure these XQD cards are way way faster than needed for 2K ProRes 444.
They've been tested in the Sony F5/F55 (which also uses SxS cards, and needs very fast cards):
http://www.hingsberg.com/index.php/2013/12/xqd-cards-for-sony-f5-f55/
Thus that is media "solved" in an affordable way! Thousands saved here.

However the really big sticking point is lenses! Even "cheap" PL lenses can cost a fortune.  And if one of us was to be mad enough to buy an Arri Alexa, we sadly might not have anything left over to buy PL lenses..... could we use our existing lenses? A Nikon F mount would be ideal in my eyes, and I've done some digging but failed to turn up anything There might maybe exist a very rare copy or two of Arri Alexas that have been modded (Panavised Alexas are the obvious more common example), but basically it seems not to be an option for us. Arri Amira & Mini do have common options for adapters to use Nikon F mount lenses and other options, but of course those are much *much* more recent cameras and would cost a lot more to buy either an Amira or Mini!
So hmmmm.... what to do?? Seems any Arri Alexa purchase would require also getting a set of Sony CineAlta PL / XEEN / PL modded stills lenses (such as GL Optics) / SLR Magic PL / RED lenses on the "cheap" to use with the camera, which a working set could easily run up to another ten thousand give or take a few thousand either side. 

Either that or wait for an Amira or Mini to fall down in price far enough to become "affordable", which would be a very looooong wait indeed!
 
Edit: hmmmm..... I stumbled across this, but any more info is sadly lacking! But just maybe maaaaybe....  does an aftermarket Nikon F mount for the Arri Alexa Classic exist that can be added on by the user?? 
https://web.archive.org/web/20120321192849/http://www.hotrodcameras.com/?p=3728
Then I found this:
http://cinescopophilia.com/hot-rod-cameras-2012-roadmap-includes-nikoncine-alexa-mount/
But now the trail runs cold :-/ 

If this can be found then it would shave thousands and thousands of dollars off the total outlay cost for a DSLR shooter to step up and buy a secondhand Arri Alexa Classic!

Edit 2: Hooray!!! Have found now THE ANSWER!! This mod exists:
http://www.leitax.com/conversion/Cine/Alexa/index.html
Can buy it here:
http://www.leitax.com/Leica-lens-for-Cinema-cameras.html