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Absolutely. You will save $17k in post on one feature alone. And it's always been an affordable rental.

Most very low budget (under $10 million) features and indies shoot prores. What's more remarkable is the success of such an inexpensive movie.
The Alexa's prores looks 99.9% as good as its RAW and 10X better than most other cameras regardless of recoding format. The difference between prores 422 and 4444 is probably bigger than Alexa prores vs Codex. RAW is not a distribution format or a format that you can see without it first being processed. RAW must be processed eventually and the in-camera processing is very excellent on the Alexa. It's not that the 5D makes a better RAW file than a JPEG; it's that the 5D turns out a worse JPEG than a high end PC turns out a .TIFF from the RAW. The 5D's built in processing needs to be quick and dirty to stay fast and consume minimal power. And this carries over doubly to the 5D's terrible built in video. But an Alexa has that high end PC built in (why it's so big and heavy and battery hungry) and beyond that you're going to a high quality intermediate codec, which you'd go to anyway for vfx, same as you'd go to a TIFF to get to Photoshop. So you're getting the equivalent of a 16 bit TIFF processed with the best settings of the best RAW developer, and that's the best you can get from RAW anyway. It just happens to happen in camera with the Alexa.
RAW is not an image until it's processed, so what's being debated isn't even the superiority of the format but where the processing is done. It is done poorly in a 5D. It is done well on a high end PC. And it's done well in an Alexa.
Unfortunately, this issue became politicized when Red marketed a problem (you need to offload the image processing because the early Reds lacked the power to debayer properly in-camera) as a feature ("in camera RAW"). Unfortunately it's still politicized and people are ignoring that this is among the least important aspects of technical image quality.
The DIT discussion is also politicized. It's a contentious position from both sides. Decent rates ($1k/day is very low for wet hire) that take others years to earn and an attack from producers trying to devalue the position on low budget work. Most of these politics do not relate to enthusiasts (same as Arri raw vs prores) except to further largely unrelated business interests by changing how conventional wisdom perceives something's value.

Raw on a camera with highly compressed codec is awesome, raw on a camera with a high quality codec is overrated. I used to shoot raw all the time on a BMCC until I tried prores and realized it wasn't really necessary.

Alexa ProRes (particularly in 4:3 mode with anamorphic lenses) is without a doubt a theatrical format. Many, many movies have been shot this way, and it's standard procedure for films that are under $3-5 million to go this route. Arriraw is expensive and extremely data-hungry. The Codex workflow, while bulletproof, requires a pricey on-set Vault system, and a skilled DIT to run it. ProRes can be handled with a laptop and a couple of hard drives. Boom. Direct to edit.

"We [recorded in] ProRes. In our testing we found that the benefits of shooting Raw didn’t necessarily apply to what this film needed. The ALEXA’s latitude (when shooting ProRes) was enough without going down the post-production path with Raw."
https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/cameras-and-lenses-behind-2017-oscar-nominated-films/
So it turns out you can get 8 Oscar nominations (including the cinematography) without shooting RAW or film.

No HDMI inputs on them Maybe once USB-C becomes mainstream we might see some options using that as an input?!

GH5 hands down.
neuman raw footage proved good color can easily be get from GH5. GH5 has millions of advantage over 1DC which is a old piece of tech. 
Put a 42.5mm 1.2 Leica on the GH and tell me about mojo 

I'm done with camera bodies till the 8K revolution is full on swing... But Im very interested in other stuff (lights, supports, lenses, laptops/PC, monitors, recorders, mics and speakers). May be there should be a sub forum for all deals and discounts.

No way, not going to happen! 
We'll probably get *ONE* of those specs you mentioned in the a7S mk3. 
If we're very lucky we'll get *TWO* of those specs.
If we're very very *very* lucky then we could get as many as *THREE* of what you mentioned. 
 
But to get *all* of that?? Sorry, you need to wait for the a7S mk10 to get that! haha


Remember Panasonic had 10bit (though external) with the GH4 years ago, and ***still*** no other camera manufacturer has caught up (for whatever reasons, political/costs/marketing/mismanagement/blindness/whatever) in offering this in one of their consumer stills cameras. When others are still behind the GH4, I wouldn't feel optimistic about them leaping ahead of the GH5 any time soon. 

Yes it is a damn pity there are no real options when it comes to super affordable 5" (or even 4") monitors with at least semi ish decent specs (like say the  Feelworld FW760 has). 
That Neway is kinda tempting, anyone here using it and can report back about it?

No way, not going to happen! 
We'll probably get *ONE* of those specs you mentioned in the a7S mk3. 
If we're very lucky we'll get *TWO* of those specs.
If we're very very *very* lucky then we could get as many as *THREE* of what you mentioned. 
 
But to get *all* of that?? Sorry, you need to wait for the a7S mk10 to get that! haha


Remember Panasonic had 10bit (though external) with the GH4 years ago, and ***still*** no other camera manufacturer has caught up (for whatever reasons, political/costs/marketing/mismanagement/blindness/whatever) in offering this in one of their consumer stills cameras. When others are still behind the GH4, I wouldn't feel optimistic about them leaping ahead of the GH5 any time soon. 

Andy Less (one of the mods here), shot a feature film with a handful of Panasonic G7 cameras:
 


Though if I was shooting a feature, I'd spend the little bit extra for a G80 (and try to twist the producer's arm to get a GH5 as well....). 

HitFilm and/or Vegas Pro are my top votes for editing if you're starting out.  (or Premiere Pro if you'll likely be working with/for others professionally in the future, as it is a near universal program)
 
As for camera, just stay with your Panasonic GX1 and Nikon F mount lenses, that is an absolutely fantastic starting point for a beginner!!

Yes, there are better options,  many of them very tempting indeed, and very attractively priced. But this is a never ending circle that can suck you down forever.... 

First  you consider the G7, it is so cheap secondhand it is almost free! No brainer decision. Let's buy it. 
But.... the G80 isn't really "that much" more is it in cost to buy? And it has IBIS!

However... now we're nearly halfway in price to a GH5, and that is omgmyballz amazing!!! Should get that instead. 

But however now we're nearly halfway in price to buying a Kinefinity Terra 5K!!!! OMGAMAZINGZWTF!!!!

Whoops, that is my phone ringing, let me answer that.... oh hello Mr Bank Manager, what are you calling about, my overdraft? Oops. 
 
Thus I say stick with you GX1 and Nikon lenses you have for now. 

If  you simply ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT resist the itch to spend money on gear (I know I know, I've been there, I understand!!), then instead spend it on filling in the gaps in your lens collection (maybe you need a UWA? Or a portrait lens? This too can go on forever....). As at least lenses can last you for decades. 

Or get a few quality audio pieces (microphones can also easily last you over a decade! I just purchased a newly two thousand dollar microphone myself... :-o ).

Or lighting gear! Again, this should last you longer than a camera body will. And quality lighting used effectively will go much further towards making  your film look amazing than a new camera will!

Then once you've progressed and learned  more, maybe in 2018 give in to buying a new camera? By that point  you'll be able to pick up a G80 for today's G7 prices, or less!

 

HitFilm and/or Vegas Pro are my top votes for editing if you're starting out.  (or Premiere Pro if you'll likely be working with/for others professionally in the future, as it is a near universal program)
 
As for camera, just stay with your Panasonic GX1 and Nikon F mount lenses, that is an absolutely fantastic starting point for a beginner!!

Yes, there are better options,  many of them very tempting indeed, and very attractively priced. But this is a never ending circle that can suck you down forever.... 

First  you consider the G7, it is so cheap secondhand it is almost free! No brainer decision. Let's buy it. 
But.... the G80 isn't really "that much" more is it in cost to buy? And it has IBIS!

However... now we're nearly halfway in price to a GH5, and that is omgmyballz amazing!!! Should get that instead. 

But however now we're nearly halfway in price to buying a Kinefinity Terra 5K!!!! OMGAMAZINGZWTF!!!!

Whoops, that is my phone ringing, let me answer that.... oh hello Mr Bank Manager, what are you calling about, my overdraft? Oops. 
 
Thus I say stick with you GX1 and Nikon lenses you have for now. 

If  you simply ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT resist the itch to spend money on gear (I know I know, I've been there, I understand!!), then instead spend it on filling in the gaps in your lens collection (maybe you need a UWA? Or a portrait lens? This too can go on forever....). As at least lenses can last you for decades. 

Or get a few quality audio pieces (microphones can also easily last you over a decade! I just purchased a newly two thousand dollar microphone myself... :-o ).

Or lighting gear! Again, this should last you longer than a camera body will. And quality lighting used effectively will go much further towards making  your film look amazing than a new camera will!

Then once you've progressed and learned  more, maybe in 2018 give in to buying a new camera? By that point  you'll be able to pick up a G80 for today's G7 prices, or less!

 

This, a thousand times this, I'd be 110% focused on getting out of debt if I was you. Rest of all this nonsense we discuss on this forum matters relatively little compared to that!

Andy Less (one of the mods here), shot a feature film with a handful of Panasonic G7 cameras:
 


Though if I was shooting a feature, I'd spend the little bit extra for a G80 (and try to twist the producer's arm to get a GH5 as well....). 

Probably a Gx85, G80, or a GH5 could be a better option to match C100 color, for my C100 I am seriously thinking to get a GX85 as a B camera, I liked the IBIS on it and of course the price, in the second market they are going very cheap now….

@gatopardo Nope, sony f3. I gotta say I love everything but the bulk of the camera. The image even with just the internal recording is so far ahead of anything i've used before. I really liked the xc10 but the quality just drops off a cliff after iso 800, which with the slow lens happens in all but direct sunlight. I think canon tried to over sell the specs and cover up the ghosting which they fixed with a new version of the camera. Thats the reason I'll never buy anything new from canon again. I hope they are reading this thread.

@andrgl
Did you ever shoot 1080p with the 5d m4 (4.000 Euro camera) and the 1DX m2 (6.000 Euro camera) ? I did it for testing...You know what? The 1080p footage is much more worse than the IQ of my FZ1000 (700 Euro). Don't try to declare the 720p out of the Canons as "gourmet food". It's simply trivial fast foot compared with IQ of competition. Nothing to do with "production for theatre or IMAX".
Please read my posting. There is no lunch for free, surely...But I am not willing to pay manufacturers marketing morons with their phantasy driven by steroids. There are the engineers, developers and workers work which should be paid...And don't forget: Consumers first! - and not manufacturers profit first...You should care much more about your wallet than about manufacturers profit and adopting marketing claims...
Please consider, that Canon is (probably) not paying you for the 720p advocacy...

http://cinemaeos.usa.canon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/eos1dc-im3-en2.pdf
 
Here's the manual for the camera.  Good to have on hand when you first get it.  I just use a 128 gigabyte card in mine.  And as for the 30 vs. 18 megapixels, yeah, I'm sure the 5d4 is more than capable.  But, I was waiting for the 5d4 to come out to replace my 5d3 and when I saw the actual specs I said screw that.  It wasn't the crop factor, it was the fact they couldn't put 60p 4k in the thing.  Most people don't spend three grand on a camera, more for the 5d4.  I make a living mainly taking pictures, not video, but, the writing is on the wall, video is the future and if I was going to spend over three grand for a camera, I wanted one that would last for at least three years.  So, I bought a used 1dc, no 60 4k, but I can live without that for a couple of years, maybe get a gh5 later in the year if I really need it.  Bottom line is Canon didn't really make any money off me this upgrade path and for what it's worth, the 1dc for the price used is a piece of kit that I can see using for more than three years, I'll probably keep it until it dies.  Bit of a rant, but hey Canon, for the people who do spend the money on new gear, give us our money's worth!

Ah I see. Yeah I think the Nikon Speedbooster is the way to go on a Pocket. Just too many good Nikon manual focus lenses around for peanuts to pass up. And they have out G lens Apture control adapters. I have one myself.

100% second this. I use Premiere for editing, and resolve for footage printing, but I know several people who enjoy Hitfilm and make some seriously good stuff on it. 

Hitfilm express is probably the second best free NLE, after resolve (but a $20 add-on might be kind of necessary). Not that you're against spending any money probably. can also run on a lower specced computer

Yeah, you made me look into Scandinavian prices some time ago and I noticed funnily enough electronics can be had quite cheap there (just about everything else is pretty much expensive). Even managed to pick up a G7 on the cheap in person just before store closure at FotoKungen, Stockholm (quite late in the day, folks at Rajala didn't have stock but were nice enough to point me in their direction). Over the last few years I must've been in Gothenburg, Stockholm, Helsinki and Oslo countless times... unfortunately those days seem over. I posted about a sick deal on Rajala around Black Friday/Cyber Monday: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/21128-last-minute-deal-for-swedes-upd-extended/ , but talking to them, they referred me to the Finnish site instead; which of course didn't have any good deals going on, in fact it was more expensive than here locally. fml
Not sure, but I think all these stores have a policy not to ship anything elsewhere? See, Cyberphoto seems the same... https://www.cyberphoto.se/leveransvillkor#leveransinformation-utom-sverige . Btw, for fun you should follow the links to the .no and .fi domains and see what happens.
See, I am now in the market for a Huawei Mate 9 Pro which has the dual Leica cam set-up. It sells in Central/Western Europe under Porsche Design licence at 1395,- EUR. Yup. That's right, your eyes aren't deceiving you. Luckily you guys up north don't give in to such foolishness, so I've noticed on YouTube that Huawei Denmark, Norway, Sweden & Finland are promoting the Huawei version (earlier it was thought to be China released only). I made accounts at multiple Scandinavian shops... yet all won't allow it to be shipped to your address in e.g. Austria. I mean, I know a guy from Norway and another from Denmark that are bound visit home at some point this or next month and could probably organize me one. But otherwise it's pretty tough luck it seems.
For someone who wants to undertake ordering something from abroad, but shops don't send items to your country... there are some forwarding services. I'll name a few: https://www.shipito.com (US -> ..) | http://www.borderlinx.com (US -> ..) | https://www.bpm-lux.com (US/UK/BE/LX/DE/IT/ES -> ..) | https://mailboxde.com (DE -> ..) | http://www.logoix.com (DE -> EU) | http://www.huifkarverzendservice.nl (DE -> NL) | http://www.cssbuy.com (CN -> ..) | http://www.mistertao.com (CN -> ..) | http://www.tenso.com/en/ (JP -> ..) | http://global.rakuten.com/en/ (JP -> ..) | etc. There's also some other type of new and upcoming way to get your deliveries. It's a sort of UBER/Lyft model, so more like a p2p kinda of thing, but instead of being with driver and passenger it's sender and receiver... try it own risk: https://www.parcl.com & http://airnshop.com .
Some sites that might be worth checking out for deals: basically the same thing but for the different regions: https://www.prisjakt.nu (Sweden) | https://www.prisjakt.no (Norway) | https://hintaopas.fi (Finland) | https://pricespy.co.uk (UK) | https://pricespy.ie (IE) | https://pagomeno.it (IT) | https://pricespy.co.nz (NZ). There's also: http://www.pricerunner.dk (Denmark) | http://www.pricerunner.co.uk (UK) | http://www.pricerunner.de (DE) | http://www.pricerunner.at (AT) | http://www.pricerunner.fr (FR) . Others: https://www.pepper.com (worldwide deals) | http://geizhals.eu (EU (DE, AT, UK, PL)) | https://tweakers.net/pricewatch (NL) | http://www.voordeelmuis.nl (NL) | https://en.toppreise.ch (Switzerland). Of course sites like Idealo and Kelkoo. Don't forget your local Google Shopping site (e.g. https://www.google.com/shopping | https://www.google.de/shopping | https://www.google.nl/shopping | .. ) either.
There are some shops that import stuff from all over the world for cheap and might be able to give you a fair deal, like http://www.eglobalcentral.com . There's also stores in Hong Kong that export stuff, some stores offer customers from certain countries a tax free guarantee, for example: http://www.onestop-digital.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=8&currency=EUR&sl=en ('At the moment, this VAT Free guarantee only applies to orders shipped to Australia, Belgium, Canada, France, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom and United States'). My Nikon AI-s 28mm f/2.8 MF came from http://www.aclub.com , initially found them on eBay. You can e-mail them and negotiate a little on the price. No guarantees, but it did fly under the radar with customs. For accessories, a good place to check is always http://www.linkdelight.com , http://www.camfere.com or one of the many other China webshops . Many of which, btw, are behind some eBay stores.
So, eBay, right!? It's a great place to roam around (sure many of you have bought something from http://stores.ebay.com/roxsen at some point in time), for example if you need lens adapters, I highly recommend the ones from K&F (Kent & Faith) Concept (listings on eBay usually have the black box with orange accents in them, there's another brand 'Leinox' which is pretty good as well, they're shown with thumbnails of the adapter and a black box with brownish/copper accents). One of my best kept secrets I'll share with you today: http://www.ebay.com/usr/artemstore . If you want a Russian vintage lens, he will hook you up. Somehow he always manages to find NOS (New Old Stock) or special series lenses as well. Such a great source.
Btw. I just want to highlight something I found out about eBay. E.g. take a look at this: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=zedigital&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=lens+adapter&_sacat=0 VS http://www.ebay.at/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=zedigital&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=lens+adapter&_sacat=0 . Same link, just changed the domain extension. The one gets 475 results, the other a mere 175. I usually use http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=putthethingyouwanttofindhere&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sop=15 to increase my chances of finding something, over time I've learned that gets me the best and most understandable results. In this case it comes up with 477 results and... it's English so you understand it: http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=zedigital&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=lens+adapter&_sacat=0 .
Also try http://aliexpress.com , home of a lot of manufacturers as well (there's an app in your smartphone's app store, a lot can be had with a discount buying through the app). Did you know Aputure runs an offical store there for example? https://aputure.aliexpress.com . Need stuff for your GoPro? Have a look at TELESIN: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/630476 for example. A lot of brands have official stores on Amazon too (which always is a nice place to check, as some of the lightning deals involve camera gear and could get interesting from time to time). Or like Lilliput and Zhong Yi they might even have their own distribution channels, e.g.: http://lilliputdirect.com | http://www.zyoptics.net/purchase-online/ .
Also. Don't forget, sometimes just subscribing to a newsletter gets you a nice welcome bonus. Also make sure to hit up a site like https://www.retailmenot.com before you purchase anything, there might be a good discount in it for you.
So. Yeah! I'm all for good deals. But we just need to make sure we are able to get it somehow! I'm always keeping my eyes open, I'm a sucker for good deals as my G.A.S. history would show.
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G7 all the way, the overheating issue and horribly skin tone of sony cameras is a strong reason to go with Panasonic, it is really an easy choice...