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That guy is a Moron, he has been dishing Nikon since day one in this thread. He said with absolute certainty that Nikon will never be able to produce a camera to compete with Sony Mirror Less. That was one month ago, having not seen anything, just his analysis. As we can see today he is completely wrong, they have at least matched the Sony third gen mirrotless, but in many ways outdone it. The Z6 kills the A73, better viewfinder, better LCD, 10 bit video, build quality etc. The only thing that is still contentious is the AF which DRreview who had some time with the Beta Z7 said was better than the Sony's. 
That's what Dpreview had to say "Autofocus in video is up there with the best. Tracking and refocusing on subjectives is intuitive and reliable... besting what Canon and Sony offer"
https://***URL removed***/reviews/nikon-z7-first-impressions-review/6
And I am sure, he who has not used the camera will come to patronize us.

Well @Django @Young think you did. And I don't watch your stuff anymore.

Jesus, Don watch the video. Maybe BM was exaggerating their claim with the BMCC. Who the hell knows? But Mattias’ video clearly shows how great the Nikon Flat Profile is. Check out his 5 reasons to Buy a D750... in the woods shot, with Gunpowder backlit by the setting sun, on most cameras, he would have been entirely silhouetted but the detail he pulled out on Gunpowder’s face just proves the DR capabilities of Nikon’s Flat Profile. 

He was using the BMCC’s DR as a reference to show how the D750 was with the Nikon Flat Profile. No reason not to believe him, he has the images to prove it. 

Did you even watch @Mattias Burlings video? Are you daft?

Don't underestimate Nikon's flat profile. Mattias Burling had estimated 2014's D750 Flat profile DR at +13 stops:
These 2018 Z series BSI sensors should push out the same if not better DR internally..

The point you're missing is, you can post all the lab tests that you want, when it comes to what camera is "better" it all boils down to preference and what each person believes. There are facts and there are opinions, you often confuse the two and denigrate and insult those that don't agree with your facts because, to put it bluntly, you're a dick to virtually everyone. 
I'm not invested enough to look up the post because frankly arguing with you is pointless, but it was just the other day that you were telling @Shirozinathey were factually wrong because they liked the Panasonic 10 bit 4:2:2 codec more than the Sony's 8 bit 4:2:0. Who the fuck cares about your tests if he prefers the Panasonic? Those aren't facts, those are your own conclusions that you pass on as facts while he came to his own conclusions. 
What's even more telling is when @Andrew Reidcalls you out you have nothing to say, but when anyone else does you call them fanboys, accuse them of smoking crack, etc. I don't understand why your attitude and behavior are tolerated, regardless of how much useful stuff you share, especially when you have caused at least one knowledgeable professional to post less here. You look to be in your 60s, act like it. 

If you're filming though then once you crop down to 2.39 aspect ratio then it will look just fine

I quoted you directly above, then wrote my own statement below, so that with your quote side by side it was clear that was my words.  For the point I was making that all sensor sizes have their own set of pros/cons worth discussing. (and of course any con falls under "disputing the merits of..."). 

Maybe instead of making marketing posts on my forum, DJI can give me a drone?!

"I don’t even want to be part of a conversation where the merits of medium format are in dispute. It is a pointless waste of time."

Oh I dunno....

I think there are very legitimate reasons to not consider using medium format!

Even if their prices dropped to a half, or even a quarter of what they are now. 

I often wonder that too....

It is all about your connections, and who you know!


Anyway, seems like there is an option to turn down mid range sharpening?
 


I'm experiencing GAS so bad when watching the videos about the Z6!
But yeah, no harm in waiting for secondhand bodies to appear. 
Plus as I don't really buy into the whole "bigger must be always better" argument, I'm also keen to wait and see what Nikon will do for DX mirrorless!
Imagine a camera identical to the Z6 but with an APS-C sensor but for say US$1.2K? That would be dreamy. Same price as an a6500, but 10x better. (20x better if they give us a flip out screen!)

Although, I'll keep an eye on eBay prices for D750/D7500/D500, I might possibly just give in and buy another DSLR instead. 
But no rush, sound gear purchases is burning up plenty of bags of cash of mine instead! Lectrosonics SR/SMQV/etc are bloody expensive. 

 

I agree, a "slim" battery grip (but doesn't even have a vertical grip! As it is a "slim" version) would be a handy innovation for many mirrorless shooters who just want a bit more time between battery swaps. 

Actually, this seems like something a third party supplier could innovate and supply? (if Nikon doesn't lock you out with a firmware update... gah)
Imagine if you could buy slim battery body extensions ("body extensions" seems like a better name, than "grips" as it wouldn't even have a vertical grip) for say $75 a pop then you could happily buy say three of these to get you through a day. 
 

To bad, that means you missed it being debunked.
By the looks of the interest in this thread, other forums, in the camera store today and some very defensive fanboys, it looks like it will be popular.
 

Yup, Nikon waited a long time for this, they're not going to want to screw it up. 
 
For everyone on EOSHD we should be glad that Nikon gave 10bit external and didn't cap it at max 8bit in any form like Sony. 

That doesn't sound like a "Sony clone" to me. 
Nailed it.

Actually two 11 bit values turns into a 22 bit value, which is then processed as 16bit lin internally, not 14bit. It’s then log encoded as a 12bit once it’s encoded into a DNG or ProRes. 
Alexa is the same, but two 12bit values turned into a 24bit value then down to 16bit. 
I’ve long felt bit depth is the most important part of the digital imaging chain, not resolution.
JB

Well, there is no mic jack, yet again! So that pretty much automatically kills it as a consideration for a lot of increasingly frustrated people, including myself. 
I just want a better than cellphone camera that is nice and compact, but with a mic input so I can do quick and dirty vlog! None of the Sony RX100 have this, was a perfect chance for Panasonic to leap in and steal a niche for themselves! Especially if its screen had also flipped out.

You're comparing stills. 

We're discussing filmmaking. 

Look at video output. As the GH5S shows vs an a7Smk2, the gap has for practical purposes disappeared at a given ISO level. 
 
 

Because he shoots with a GH5, and sees that noise is nothing to worry about with the GH5!
Thus it is only logical for him to concluded noise from a GH5S also won't be the big issue you are trying to claim it is. 
Yup, as I've said a bunch of times, comparing stills vs stills will only barely tell not even half the story.
 

Just arrived in the country today! Hopefully I'll get it soon. 
I'll probably start then using my BMPCC more then for my vlogs. Sometimes I really hate the look from my Samsung S7, and the iPod Touch is even worse! 

I want a Zed 7! ?

Just realised that DPR put out a dedicated video just for the 10 year anniversary of the G1:
 
 
 
Happy Birthday Panasonic G1, the world's 1st mirrorless! I never used you, but the Panasonic GH1 was my first ever camera I purchased for filmmaking. (after borrowing Sarah's Canon T2i or Tintin's Nikon D90 for a while to be able to do my film school assignments)
 
Then later on got the GX1, a G3, a GF3, and another GH1, and a G6. I certainly loved my Panasonics!

Prove it. 

I'm basing this on logic/science/experience. 

So please write a rebuttal point by point for everything you're disagreeing with. 
Two minutes ago people were complaining about how MFT sensors are not as good in lowlight.... now people are saying they're too good and it needs tonnes of ND? (reminds me of people with the a7S when it came out with its high base ISO in slog)

You just can never win with some people! :-P 
 

EXACTLY!

When your restriction is your DoF that you must work with, and not your lens (and indeed in a practical aspect, for many people it is this way round. Although sure... some might reply back with how they're exception in that it is the MFT lenses which confine them....) then as your sensor size goes up you must either boost up your lighting levels (which means more time and costs! Thus the complaints from the vistavision shooters on reduser when they discovered this obvious fact)  or boost up your ISO levels (which either means you lose an lowlight advantage the large sensor maybe possibly had, or even worse... you are left with worse image quality!). 
 

Nikon Rumors is saying dual cards, 1x XQD card or 1x CF Express card or 2x SD cards. None of the alphas can do 10-bit video over HDMi either. Plus they can do time-lapse, something Sony forgot about in the new cams.

lol show me another full frame camera capable of 10 bit (external or not) at that price range, plus what I imagine will be good video af.