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I would be so awesome if knefinity did something like the bmpcc, like a small compact camera sized camera with a built in screen and the kineraw colour and codec.
 

Maybe consider the Panasonic GF-7. I havent used one but it is compact, attractive and comes with a nice lens and has a selfie tilting screen. 

How to make VR porn:
 
In other totally unrelated news.... I've just ordered all the parts for my own VR camera.

How to make VR porn:
 
In other totally unrelated news.... I've just ordered all the parts for my own VR camera.

I had to come up with about 50 of these for a project where they had the unlimited stock photo account but a very low budget. It got to be kind of fun, other than the deadline had me up til 2 and 3 AM. 
This kind of stuff can add to your billable hours - since most of us have decent computers, after effects and photoshop and AI, if you can learn character animation, animating charts and data, or basic animation of things like manufacturing processes… you can really add to your billing (more for one-man-band guys than studios with dedicated animators anyway), farm less stuff out, and have more tools for telling business stories for marketing videos.
 

Why is the Pix E5H to much money? An extra $150 over the Atomos and better build, plus it now has the professional XLR inputs available.

The thing I like most about Kinefinity is that they very obviously listen to what filmmakers want in their cameras. 
They've literally given everything you could ask for with the Terra, including a really decent, accessible price. 
Mother camera brands are largely segmented with their product range, and therefore got crippled one way or another - such as the FS5's "10 bit" 50mbps HD XAVC-L. Simply not good enough. 
Full frame with the KINE Enhancer too. This could be the best camera release in ages.

Good idea, the G7 is awesome. But be warned, after a few weeks with the G7, you may be eyeing the GH5 instead of the 5DIV. Just sayin...

LOL so hard that they have a pic of an EX3 in the B&H photo

Battle-Tested (used) KineMINI 4K From $2,499  4K 12bit RAW
http://www.kinefinity.com/shop/kinemini-battle-tested/?lang=en

So basically it is a Tascam DR-10X with a microphone glued on permanently, and a hotshoe.
Still, a really good idea. A strong competitor to the Shure VP83F LensHopper & Saramonic Vmic Recorder Video Microphone.
But I just wish Zaxcom had not crushed legally the sales of Tascam DR-10C in the United States, as that is what this link I'd hoped would be about.

I'd sincerely appreciate to have more and detail information on this product, as well, full price, etc a year later from such promising presentation:
 
Here's more on topic:
http://www.studiodaily.com/2015/04/smarter-focus-assist-andra-redrock-halo-preston/

Could it be that finally, RED and BM are both busy with actually manufacturing their cameras? :D

Ugh, why not just put Ursa mini OS on it?! They would sell like crazy?! I wonder how much more it would cost them per unit to make that a reality, how much processing power does LUT support need?!

Btw, Virtual reality has a lot of possibilities for narrative films. I don't know if or when it will be something common and not gimmicky, but it certainly opens a lot of new ways of telling things.
There is the straight forward thing of putting people in the action, as if they were actually there. But soon filmmakers will notice all the things you can do to transmit mood meanings,etc through perspective,etc...
For example, a tele shot in virtual reality will be something epic, because it is a very different way of seeing. You start moving away from conic proyection into a cilindrical proyection, giving you sort of a god like point of view. The typical vertigo compensated zoom on the otherhand, will be totally crazy. But no need to overdo things, lets take the compensated zoom, you can have a scene where someone walks into a place and experiences something stressful, lifechanging,etc... During this scene the center of perspective starts shifting, beginning to be opressive, like people experience in real life (for extreme cases check alice in wonderland sindrome).
The only peoblem is that you could stress some people too much and make them puke

I feel like the guys at Aputure noticed... 'geez, what are they charging for that sorta gear? I thought cameras were starting to allow more people an entry into filmmaking... guess it's up to us to make the rest of the gear follow'. Monitors... LEDs, accessories (like DEC schtuff). Not too shabby at not too shabby prices!
(oh and how many times I notice myself saying 'aputure' when I meant 'aperture', speaking of branding that sticks)!

"Nothing better than getting together with friends in a dark room to touch each other at a deeper level" ~ Ange Lee

:-o :-o 

Oh hey, so do I! Did that yesterday:
 

I'd LOVE to find some affordable dedolight clones!! 

MattH, no-one has any issues with your skepticism, in fact I think we all really rather agree that it is sensible to wait until we can see the results of the camera, and it's support network. DBounce however was not being skeptical. His gambit is that Kinefinity are conterfeiting prores, as evidenced by his link to a federal counterfeiting website, on the basis that they are a chinese company. "China doesn't need permission do they?" When everyone pointed out that his evidence was shaky, and the full picture indicates that they are in a convoluted process of getting the licence legally, (which has now been confirmed to be the case by Kinefinity) he went quiet. that was until he saw the rotated buttons, when this became evidence of their poor quality control. In my opinion that's just as bad as not being skeptical - either being a fan or a hater of an unreleased product are just as bad as each other.
If I were to apply skeptical thinking to DBounce, I would suggest he has been prone to jump to conclusions, and make somewhat xenophobic statements, thus when he states an opinion about a chinese company, my skepticism tells me not to take his opinion at face value and triple check his evidence.
We all know you don't get to see Apples, Nikons, Canons or Samsungs  pre-production models, they employ consultants and maybe even have departments dedicated  to hiding pre-production electronics whilst they are being tested at that level. Remember the preproduction iPhone that someone snapped being used on a train? It looked like crap and they got a roasting in the clickbait press for it. Try to find that picture now. They pursued every copy of that photo that was published with c&d letters, because they know it looked like crap. Is that really what we want kinefinity to be doing, because that little skeptical part of me tells me that if DBounce found out that Kinefinity was trying to hide their pre-production flaws, he would be presenting this as evidence that they couldn't be trusted.

Hmm so many questions missing from that live show interview.  And they really need someone who understands and speaks English better.  Only thing I got from that interview was that the 5k sensor does use dual-gain amplifiers.  Sadly Rodney Charters didn't understand the difference between dual-gain pathways and dual-exposure HDR as is a common confusion and the Kinefinity guy didn't seem to fully understand the confusion.  My guess would be that the global shutter mode can only use one gain amplifier and is more greatly limited in DR by the ADC as most single-amp cameras are, but it should still be able to take advantage of the sensitivity of the sensor by applying more gain as long as hardware gain is adjustable.  Gonna have to put in a pre-order, at least the $150 payment is refundable and will give me me a $500 discount if I decide to stick with it.

Wow this went off topic.....  but in an entertaining way :-)

Wow this went off topic.....  but in an entertaining way :-)

Smart move to make nearly all of their announcements from BMD be available *NOW*!  
 
 
In the interview the BMD guy said "not yet", but they hope so and they are working on it to try and make it happen (but it isn't certain).