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6 hours ago, M Carter said:

Interference and handling noises are two drastically different things. Interference has to do with how crowded the spectrum is where you're shooting. Pro-level wireless has methods to check for empty frequencies before you begin shooting, which can help a great deal. Handling and clothing noise is about technique vs. user error.

Well said. 

36 minutes ago, wolf33d said:

10 seconds RAW 5K video.... 

But you quickly kill the shutter with that ^^

Not if it is electronic shutter.

28 minutes ago, Franz Schuier said:

Even if it overheats this is a great bcam for my a7s2. Touch to focus is great. I love it on the a5100.

 

That is why I purchased the a5100 over the a6000!
(plus it was cheaper... :D )

26 minutes ago, Viet Bach Bui said:

The GH5 is at least half a year away, which in the camera business is a long time.

I'm not too bothered! :-D Have sworn not to spend any more on cameras this year, no matter how tempting it is.

Instead any money I spend will be exclusively focused on audio gear, just a few minutes ago I made a purchase from B&H (incredible how easy it is to spend over a hundred bucks on a few odd bits and pieces here or there....):

Ok I admit that BNC cable though is camera gear.... oops, my bad! But I've been wanting that coiled cable type since forever ago to use with my F3 to Atomos recorder.

Ordered a handful of other audio gear tonight from ebay as well, all these little costs add up :-/ It isn't just the big expenses (like a Sound Devices recorder) that kills you, but the death from a thousand paper cuts of all the other little things you need.

In the midst of an email order with Oscar SoundTech about buying a few of their lavs, poof... that will make a few more hundreds of dollars disappear!

http://www.oscarsoundtech.com/services.html

11 minutes ago, MattH said:

I cant see sony going 10 bit with 4k in stills cams. Not in the next 4 years, nevermind half a year.  The FS7 doesnt even have 10bit 4k.

What the hell??? Why would you say that, that is so wrong. Of course it has 10bit 4K!!
(unless you are thinking of the much cheaper FS5??)

Very likely a large portion of that low score is due to dumb FS7 owners buying and it expecting something totally different from it than what it is.

Wow, that was a very quick cycle (even for Sony!) of: a6000 => a6300 => a6500

2 hours ago, Phil A said:

Sounds like an A6300 with IBIS and Touch Screen

Sweeeeeeeet, that is the most important thing!

Wellllllllll, and no overheating....   but we won't know that until it hits the hands of users.

40 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said:

That rumors site is saying it will be announced in the next few days and a9 in early 2017. They seem pretty confident. Crazy I was just considering buying the new a6300 a few months back.

wow that is soon! Hope no newly recent a6300 or a7Smk2 or a7Rmk2 buyers end up regretting it...

3 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

Guess its time to prepare for disappointment.

Nah, you don't spell Sony as "C-a-n-o-n"!

15 hours ago, samuel.cabral said:

I know it might sound like a crazy idea but...

The new EosM (5) is a mirrorless 80d and you can use a Speedbooster for your Full Frame look.

Still don't know if the AF is as good but it could be a great B cam.

 

If you use a speedbooster then you'll lose all benefits in picking Canon for their AF.

One solution to the poor battery life:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSLR-External-Battery-Grip-Top-Handle-Rugged-Cage-For-Sony-A7-Series-A7S-Camera-/391255072270

Use it with a cage like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSLR-Rig-Cage-With-Top-Handle-Grip-Leather-Strap-For-Sony-A7-A7r-A7S-Camera-/391096270161

If it keeps to the launch price of the a6300, has IBIS, touchscreen, and no overheating, then this likely will be the camera for me in 2017. (throw in a headphone jack please as a sweetener)

I am however surprised at how fast the release cycle has been for the latest a6x00 series, I was truly expecting an a5100 successor to come along first. 

Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 with a focal reducer will cover a MFT sized area approximately. 
Not a good idea!
With a straight adapter it would be a good idea with a Sony a7R mk2, but not an a7S mk2.

What is your budget and purpose? As there are HEAPS of options for lenses!
Do you want to go mainly adapted or native mount lenses?

Personally if it was me I'd go for a mix, I could get together a nice little set at a very low cost:

You can pick these up second in Nikon F mount for cheap cheap:

Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8

Tokina 28-80 f/2.8

Tokina 80-200mm f/2.8

Then throw in one of the cheapest Sony FE mount lenses, which makes it quite a good value (unlike most Sony FE lenses):

Sony FE 50mm f/1.8

All in cost is not much at all, and you've got four nice lenses which cover a lot of uses.

It all depends on what your purpose/role is, if you're primarily a cameraman/DP then an F4/F8 likely is overkill. 

1 hour ago, Kisaha said:

Even with digital Nagra and Sound Devices I had huge problems (mainly software with Nagra, hardware with Sound Devices) in between feature film's productions.

What problems?

1 hour ago, Kisaha said:

Why F4 is "the clear leading option" instead of the DR100mkIII or the DR-701D? Even though I love the F4 features, I wouldn't be 100% certain until I test one. It seems like the best Zoom video orientated product, but I will wait.

Note I'm writing this from the perspective of a film sound recordist.

DR100mk3 fails badly in terms of ergonomics, it is a handheld record, very bag unfriendly. Lacks many many features vs the F4 (less inputs, no TC, no dual cards, etc).

DR701D lacks XLR out, don't like how the screen angles out, I just see it as a bit poor value for money. You can get the Tascam DR70D for drastically less and all you really lose is TC, I used a DR70D on a feature film: 

56 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

 I too getting so much interference with various Sennheisser kits, recently I am only monitoring my 416, as I am certain that I am getting interferences(hair/touching/clothes noises) with them.

 

Learning more about lav placement and having the right accessories does wonders for improving the quality of your lav recordings. 

I take it you're activated now?

2 hours ago, Policar said:

Fair enough, the F8 and F4 do have better pre-amps. I thought you meant like an h4n or something, because you referred to low end recorders. My bad though, the F8 is still low end relative to industry standard recorders. I just meant leagues better than the h4n, not better than the F8. That's fair, I must have just misunderstood you.

 

HEAPS are better than the Zoom H4n, that is not just low end, it is woefully out of date. Even the Tascam DR60D mk2 (which can be got for merely US$135) is HEAPS better than the H4n.

15 minutes ago, Nathan Gabriel said:

Is low light noise going to be better on GH5 than G85 given the higher pixel count? I almost wonder if I'd prefer the cheaper 16MP camera?

I bet it will be at least as good, and likely a bit better. Pixel count is but one factor in lowlight performance. 

35 minutes ago, Dan Wake said:

does the RØDELink Filmmaker Kit get interference?

It is awfully awfully BULKY! I almost never use mine, preferring the slim size of my Sony UWP-D11 instead

5 hours ago, Jonesy Jones said:

Again, my experience is that the VAST amount of video guys are NOT audio folks.

True true. I even take that attitude towards 95%+ of camera reviews, as "the VAST amount of camera reviewer guys are NOT video folks" ;-) One of the key things I like about EOSHD is it is not part of that 95%+.

However....    I did post that to a group which is exclusively F8/F4 owners (or soon to be owners one day.... like myself next year), people who buy an F8 and actively participate in a narrowly focused group exclusively about that recorder are absolutely not going be part of that general "VAST amount of video guys". Also the group has Zoom reps, F8/F4 beta testers, and even the guy who was in the promo video!

https://holdforsound.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/zoom-f4-promo-breakdown/

Additionally did you see the list of places I mentioned I hanged out and followed Zoom F8/F4 news closely? They're all exclusively sound forums, not camera forums. Haven't heard this brought up frequently as a notable issue. Plus they have a certain minority sub group on those forums of pros who love to be very vocal to sneer and laugh at anything which isn't $$$$$$ and thus "pro" (you think camera forums are bad?? Ha! Wait until you hang out on these audio forums....). If this is true, and it is a big problem, then I'm sure they'd love to raise this every second post!

Anyway, I've scoped out the range of options for recorders pretty well I feel, and my view is if you want a big step up from a DR60D/DR70D/DR680/H5/H6, but can't justify the cost of a 633/644/688 (or Nagra, or Zaxcom, etc... which are even more expensive!), then a Zoom F8 or F4 are the clear leading options by a large margin. (their only close competitors in price/features only have a chance if you find them at a really great deal secondhand, such as a Tascam HS-P82 or Roland R-88)

Only reason why I haven't brought one already is because I own currently a pretty decent setup for my situation with a Sound Devices 552 + Tascam DR680, thus I can wait for these two things to happen first:

1) I've purchased various other more important audio items first (such as another wireless kit or two, Oscar SoundTech lav upgrade for everything, a couple of new mics such as an Audio-Technica AT4053b or Audix SCX1-HC, then a RODE NTG3 etc)

2) for the Zoom F4 to ship (already started for Japanese buyers! A few more days of waiting still to go for us overseas consumers), so I can see plenty of F4 reviews and comparisons with the F8

Once these two things have happened, then I'm almost certain to buy an F4 or F8 (unless a better option pops up.....   are you listening Tascam?? ).

5 hours ago, Jonesy Jones said:

Also, I don't know about Zaxcom, but Sound Devices can be trimmed with no stepping.

As was pointed out, it technically exists for a 633 as well.....   because it is digitally controlled, but you won't hear it. Thus I assume the same is true for a Zoom F8/F4.

5 hours ago, Jonesy Jones said:

But with multiple reviewers saying the noise is there, I would assume it's there.

Welllll... you can only point to a couple of B&H reviewers? And I rate B&H reviews as at best a mere starting point for further investigations (yes, I'd rate them even a lot lower than feedback on Facebook, as at least there you can dig a bit deeper for context). 

5 hours ago, Jonesy Jones said:

Thank you for looking into that. However, I can say with certainty that some of those comments are misinformed, particularly the ones about not adjusting on the fly. I

You wouldn't change it in the midst of a word, that is what is meant. So no, I wouldn't regard it as misinformed. 

5 hours ago, Tiago Rosa-Rosso said:

You can also use this one with a zoom h1 in the end it's less expensive than the tascam dr-10L.

But the Tascam has a safety track level, and 3.5mm locking connection, that is a very good feature!

5 minutes ago, Dan Wake said:

are those? http://www.pro-sound.com/c/oscar-soundtech-lavaliers.html

Yes, OST = Oscar SoundTech

On 9/29/2016 at 3:26 PM, Jonesy Jones said:

Just a note on the F8 (and I am going to assume the F4 has the same issue), you cannot adjust the gain while recording since it adds a clicking or zipper noise. Meaning that while you're recording, if the talent begins to talk louder or quieter, you cannot really make adjustments or it will add noise to the recording. The alone kills it for me, since adjusting the trim is something I do all the time. Other than that the F8/4 seems awesome, but I couldn't do it.

I was pretty damn certain this info was incorrect, so I got feedback:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/zoomf8/permalink/1661624674149358/

Indeed, this is not relevant. I wouldn't worry about it Jonesy

47 minutes ago, Justin Bacle said:

Oh, I didn't know that the BM micro Studio had such a low DR. Thanks for the info

Yeah you want to avoid like the plague any of the studio versions that BMD sells, unless....   well, you want to set up a studio! ;-) Then it is going to be just great for that purpose. 

Get the Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera, is kinda like the BMPCC but even better! Gives you 60fps FHD slow motion as well.

Slap on a Metabones BMPCC Speedbooster and you've got near Super 35 FoV from the Micro Cinema Camera. 

You're not going to get better quality in an ultra small form package unless you spend five times as much (and get a Kinefinity Terra 5K). 

And the FS5 is all great and awesome, but more for OPC run & gun people, than for someone who wants a B cam to an Arri Alexa,