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Luke, they want to firmly send a message these devices are at same level of those used by the big guys. It works. I recall when I was in the €103.000,00 F900/F900R camp... That's all! (E :-)

Nothing this won't solve... : D http://ambient.de/en/product_custom_cat/Timecode-en/ Sorry mate but you gave me a chance to debunk certain myths any sort of FUD (even that one involuntarily) can erroneously make : ) to some uneducated minds lurking over here (believe me, they live! Carpenter's was right! LOL) No trouble other than lack of IBIS will piss over the parade, once my pre-order does overcome it. Not even the extra $400 (since VLog L is $500 included) tax did it ;-)

So does banding for sure, so go external recording 'cause beyond 10-bit only solid high bitrate can end to help : ) Turn off AF continuous or/and use editing in order to prevent such hunting. Use tripod and slider old school or then IBIS, a gimbal or yet any other software (there is also hardware*) workaround to fix any shaky hands :-) *

Really? Who says so? Rumors spread on web? In any case, a combo should somehow mean a sort of match no? I'd rather tend to call a welcome update to the latest one instead...

At 8-bit for video, yes.

It will come. Sooner or later but will come... :-) Certain PR reps make us to feel children, uneducated or retarded... Make a triple pick LOL

David, my English pops up as foreign language so maybe non-native English may explain it? I guess under-X competitions bring that inaccuracy or misunderstanding? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship Hey BTW perhaps other English speakers can join for a hand to someone always willing to improve and learn :-)

On native ISO2500 or even higher, for sure because GH5 will always show less than any GH5S value. Doesn't necessarily more than 12 stops. But as you said, we'll know very soon.

Finally, I'm reading now someone to firmly concur my POV on topic, already expressed earlier in these pages. I could just diverge on the idea they don't matter to lose GH5 sales when I actually believe they're pointing their business decision only in order to collect much more money into their own pocket, not exactly the best to their customers' bank account. Sure, there's no charity organization over here. Takes for both sides as well. It is what it is. This won't put me out to have pre-ordered the GH5S as the best cinema camera available for the price, but doesn't let me the part of fool to play either :-)

Sure, as much as a billionaire will miss anything if only millionaire... : D I recall when people were used to shoot on film, besides the fact I concur noise can look very filmic too, Blackmagic noise @ low light included.

Well, isn't it the same thing...? LOL (under means up to a certain value as much as to say a teenager is under 19 or a camera under $10K can cost anything 'under' $10,000 included... I must confess certain posts fully puzzle me :-D) And no, the ISO12800 comes directly from the OP's video description. Wanna be picky? Let's be 100% accurate then. Under 100% is too little ;-)

Better to leave it stuck on 2500 going with the GH5S... :-D

Which one...? All of them as answer is not valid. 2nd question: And at what ISOs? ;-)

Life is a bitch. You ain't virgin anymore so no matter what, people will never forget the way they met you(r noviciate) for first time ; ) If you expose to the right, you'll struggle to see the infamous noise your nightmares warn you about :-)

David, nice scope you have on topic. I thought that had been written by me (except the fact you left the REDs outside), can you imagine? My finest vote would end on Blackmagics anyway. They fully deserve it! @IronFilm

They will keep their GH5 model on high. That was their strategy and will work.

Hope they had addressed such problems on that one.

[PS] Well, I see such low light technology brings a new aesthetics approach... The question is if that's good or not under this particular perspective. Night life all shot in the same way is... boring to say the least.

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Here's more GH5S footage shot under ISO12800: O

Hey Don, I've just been trying to be silent on that one before to end crucified by the usual Sony boys, no more no less ;-)

Jon, there are two features I really miss on the GH5s version: IBIS and the upcoming 4K/60p 10-bit, even though we may workaround that 2nd one and I believe not technically possible yet into GH series but for soon, let's also hope so : ) Lack of IBIS is much more a PITA, unfortunately... 2x GH5/GH5S bodies is the only solution I find to overcome the trouble. Which means to have the better cinema camera as B camera :-D Here's their "technical excuse":

I liked that 2nd part of your post : ) Indeed ;-)

LOL I love the way you point out exactly on the other side of the coin :-) *coug cough* Buy two body units and you'll have no need to deal with no IBIS in daylight or up to ISO1600 :-D

I hope you may come then to inform us, the_people. BTW, what's the story with the GH5 I have no clue about?