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BM fanboys are far, but so far away from their company policies... ; -) Tough business, no more no less. Sometimes can even happen to contradict the common sense behind : X Well, I guess some senior executives can be junior executives (or the contrary hehe) trading places in disguise... LOL

On the spot, Glenn. Will you notice it then? ; ) If you look after PDAF nothing will stop you to not end there ; -)

...and their superior color science & acquisition tech, no matter what : ) It is a bit pointless to try pretending to ignore that. Useless IMO. We have the right to favor something else if our IQ standards match fulfilled, though. May the holy grail be beyond pixel peeping ; -)

Competitors are there but they've raised the bar too. I believe there's room for all, trust me, they're not even worried with them. We arrived to a certain point it's not the major players to ignore innovator companies like Blackmagic anymore, rather the opposite. Numbers, the only God. Who pays the bill, after all? Is it really important to them? It should be... I don't think this is meaningless. Not only tech is important at least to my book. RED got the love of the clientele because their service, view and respect for their support basis.

Don't breathe too deep, they feel self-subsistent. Rather frustrating their corporate contempt. Their products and innovation would deserve much more. I hate to have to write this but never thought to feel like to post it. Half million of views and silence is all you can get there. They don't ignore to take advantage from anyways.

Andrew, mate, you did, I did... you probably even have no clue on the fact they are completely aware of all that. PR / marketing as they call it and sales department too at the higher level of their hierarchy, Grant Petty included. I've been in touch with them crossing different chains on the phone, trade of emails, giving them acute but also positive criticism. Unfortunately, seems they don't take it as welcome as it should. Can't obviously make them public but I am not satisfied either. I have a reputable organisation asking for 28 camera units and they are unable to understand their own role on the process. Bummer. RED could be expensive and all that. But I had Jim Jannard and Jarred themselves to establish proper communication. Never asked they could behave as friends or my own family but that's what I can say a dozen of years later about them instead (E : -)

Hard to beat though with this disruptive actual price range now for 4K RAW. BMD is rocking for such department matter : ) They are now who RED promised to be a decade ago : -)

Yes, but I had to download it to add blur from my PotPlayer... I'd rather look to 'The Color of Light' video and the focal reducer shots (18-35mm f/1.8). You feel the difference to thinner MFT glass BTW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXBv7mSrIHo https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera/gallery tip to do it with embedded videos from vimeo LOL they embedded it on their webpage but they don't allow others to embed it from YT... these autocratic tics from a company like BMD are killing me : X download embedded videos on Chrome: customize and control button on the right corner -> More tools -> Developer tools -> F+Ctrl -> mp4 -> select all & copy -> word processor -> F+Ctrl = resolution chosen -> copy paste link -> click on right to save as wherever you want in your drive as you wish ; -)

Out of likes now, guys, thanks for your contribution anyway. Hey Don, I put my 'Horses for Courses' disclaimer up there : D In any case, my ultimate choices nowadays ; ) are P4K and X-H2 for IBIS add-on : D I'd buy the X-T3 instead if I would only have one camera choice today : -)

The master of SOC : -)

Interesting points indeed, even though I don't think MFT is useless at all. On the contrary, it can end much helpful on lightweight side (not the Pocket 4K case anyways, no matter the reasons behind that overheating free route) and versatile choice of glass. Your mastery can actually shine even more in a world of automated procedures, including of this craft where I see both of them as an added value though, not the opposite. There's always the possibility of upgrade for something between APS-C and FF much larger going on then, with a focal reducer and that marvelous 18-35mm f/1.8 piece, as for instance ; ) which testifies on the other hand the premise: the larger the more fun we are eager to arrive sooner or later ; -) However, one of the cinema mounts closer to old film format(s) albeit no less than the '35mm' APS-C, but where we can still find no-brainer bargain offers from one side to rather cheap purchases on ebay, as C-mount end is. (and I hadn't read your post yet, David, both practically entering at same time when I was basically writing something to refer the same supply plataform) : -D

I've seen the 1st footage... You all too, I presume, for sure. Maybe yet too early for evaluation, my first impression though is Fujifilm beats the new Blackmagic to infer from the institutional imagerie released so far at least. I'd dare to add. Or only random option of (circumstantial) grading from less fortunate choices by Blackmagic brand to promote their own product? I don't even mention in features, despite the more versatile choice of glass on MFT side, when not the ludicrous cheap C-mount to couple, or the hybrid advantage versus CC on the other side... ...just the IQ outcome coming from there! DSLR now mirrorless movement revenge? Tasty when not already SOC versus Thin, which means more prone to aliasing issues (no OLPF on both but one gets more than the other as seems), lovely but a bit predictable, not so creamy flexible range like half stop larger APS-C format. We all know the superior codec offer, let alone the BRAW to upcome from Blackmagic, horses for courses and all that yadda yadda but what about the pudding? What are your thoughts?

Hey guys, you are blind or what?! This test shows... incredible BOKEH ! And no one noticed... Kills all possible aliasing too! No extra charge either! Free and exclusive add-on. First camera ever in the world to produce such thing. Not even more need for fast glass anymore! : -P : -D

No many other cameras put that output right there... Any takers? ; -)

We cannot have all... Have you already shot with that Oly zoom lens mainly used in the video up there? So you'll understand why the other cameras have hardly beaten this rival for such yard... ; -)

http://tide.film/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-4k-first-impressions-and-comparison-against-the-panasonic-gh5s/

From wedding shooters: Metabones SB XL & Viltrox with Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 & Sigma 50 f/1.4: Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3 and Samyang 16mm T2.2: Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 coupled to Viltrox adapter: Fuji 8563 RL film stock simulation: Last but not least, from Filippo Chiesa:

I second the plea! : -)

Great Malick : ) One of the most interesting contemporary visionaries of our time : -)

Not with that hybrid combo though, Don... ; ) It is a pity to not have 4K/60p, no sense at all : -(

But not high resolution stills, Don... Horses for courses ; -)

Know nothing about you fellow : ) but I spent a couple of hours today speaking with a senior rep at Blackmagic HQ ; ) To succeed more hours to select post-production tools to order yet this week for handling Da Vinci Resolve 15 workflow which will pay many wages next year of 2019. I have to email two big European distributors of them keeping my agenda for tonight. And still organizing some training programs on my full time 4-years education (plus another one, being three of them post-production related) before to graduate myself going along a pretty old school method from a reputable film school, that is, learning to deal with high demanding standards to basically end in constructive criticism practically in a daily basis which makes everything has done my successful career (sorry for my lack of modesty here) so far ; -) One thing I can assure you or anyone. This thread has been monitored by the brand reps. I've personally emailed Grant Petty last month to let him know on everything you can read here to follow the fairness of @Andrew Reid's position and his argument IMHO. And even today, this thread (half million of views now) was mentioned during our talk on the phone. E : -)

What the hell Sareesh did to you, it is the 2nd time I see you @andrgl to downvote someone to praise his input? : -)

Thanks mate, always kind from your side (E : -)