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Yeah, the GX80 is lovely in size! Here next to the LX100:

But... the G80 sounds more like a pre-GH5. A little crowdwarmer. I think it's quite convincing offering the best of the G7 and the GX80, making it a nice allround tool (making up for some lacking features of the GX80). But of course the GH5 will have some tricks up its sleeve to pull ahead quite a bit and up the productivity. While the E-M1 mark II sounds like it will be a dream for hybrid shooting with stills focus and casual video shooting.
Agree on the Mitakon. I happen to like some character and flaws as well... not that there's something wrong with clinically sharp perfect bokeh lenses either. But it paints the picture differently which might just be what the situation demands.

True. It is seriously pocketable. Most jacket pockets could easily accommodate one. I guess it's similar in size to the LX100. That can't be said about the G7 or G80/85. Especially with the kit lens.
I like the Mitakon 25mm f.95 lens despite some of the strange reviews. It has that characteristics of one of those old minolta (was it Minolta?) lenses that Mattias Burling (I hope that was him) mentioned, about having a lot of flare pointed at direct sunlight, and thus softer image due to the coating. Almost like a natural ultra contrast built-in.
Also, like I mentioned, some cities have so much character at night. They literally come alive then. 

True. It is seriously pocketable. Most jacket pockets could easily accommodate one. I guess it's similar in size to the LX100. That can't be said about the G7 or G80/85. Especially with the kit lens.
I like the Mitakon 25mm f.95 lens despite some of the strange reviews. It has that characteristics of one of those old minolta (was it Minolta?) lenses that Mattias Burling (I hope that was him) mentioned, about having a lot of flare pointed at direct sunlight, and thus softer image due to the coating. Almost like a natural ultra contrast built-in.
Also, like I mentioned, some cities have so much character at night. They literally come alive then. 

True. It is seriously pocketable. Most jacket pockets could easily accommodate one. I guess it's similar in size to the LX100. That can't be said about the G7 or G80/85. Especially with the kit lens.
I like the Mitakon 25mm f.95 lens despite some of the strange reviews. It has that characteristics of one of those old minolta (was it Minolta?) lenses that Mattias Burling (I hope that was him) mentioned, about having a lot of flare pointed at direct sunlight, and thus softer image due to the coating. Almost like a natural ultra contrast built-in.
Also, like I mentioned, some cities have so much character at night. They literally come alive then. 

You make some good points and I agree that Panasonic was stupid for the most part in some of their exclusions, but the GX80 is significantly smaller than the G7. The G85 is expected to be even a few millimeters bigger all the way around (128.4 x 89.0 x 74.3 mm). The GX80 is also about 80 grams lighter... just saying because size matters with M43; otherwise, we might all be shooting something different.

Handheld videography is underrated. If Panasonic can reach the 6.5 stops of stabilisation of Olympus, I think it would be as smooth as a steadycam.
Development like this is Far Greater for lower budget indies, and Guerilla Shooting. For large productions stabilisation, ISO and zooms have no place. Too much time and money is spent on things which can be handled otherwise. And FX Artists and Companies are underpaid. 

Though I bought the GX80 1-2 months back, I didn't really get to use it until yesterday cause I was travelling.
Quite a seriously impressive little camera. I wish they didn't act so stupid by not putting a ($5) mic socket and not having Cineline V and D. The price difference between this and the G80 isn't really big considering the weather sealing, the magnesium front, slightly quieter shutter, 3 times faster buffer and the kit lens. If all those are considered the GX80 may be overpriced. And if they incorporate the 8-bit 4-2-2 internal recording, it would be stupid.
The kit lens is actually pretty sharp. Maybe as sharp as many of the primes. Though having a faster prime is a necessity. I wish there were a lot more choices for fast glass (f1.2 and faster). I love night street video and photography. A lot of cities really come alive at night. 
Panasonic should incorporate the Cinlike profiles, the Saving Mode and the Focus Bracketing in the firmware update, and not merely focus bracketing.
I found the grip a little ackward and uncomfortable at first. It takes a while getting used to. Though, overall, I actually like the range-finder kind of body and semi-articulating screen. They make the camera less conspicuous. I could put the camera on a wall right next to a cop, tilting the screen upwards, and he wouldn't know he's part of a guerilla shoot. 
 

Handheld videography is underrated. If Panasonic can reach the 6.5 stops of stabilisation of Olympus, I think it would be as smooth as a steadycam.
Development like this is Far Greater for lower budget indies, and Guerilla Shooting. For large productions stabilisation, ISO and zooms have no place. Too much time and money is spent on things which can be handled otherwise. And FX Artists and Companies are underpaid. 

Actually, I saw that the new 4k action cam too was hacked recently.
If they use the same kind of ARM chip and OS, I'm pretty confident about a hack  That would be awesome

I am guessing if the Olympus EM 1 ii  can have 121 cross-point on-chip PDAF, then obviously there seems no reason why the  Panasonic GH5 should have far better focus for Photo, and a much higher burst rate.
I am guessing the PDAF is a fabrication process, on existing sensors, and is not very difficult. Though for mirrorless cameras, since everything is electronic, it may be an issue of processing power. And that is why Panasonic may also need a pair of quad core processors,  one solely for focus. This may be a blessing for both photo and video. If Canon and Sony can do it, I see no reason why Panasonic cannot do it too. 
Also, there is some kind of Focus Improvement in the FZ2000 which is noticeable from its fake dolly zoom feature. It doesn't lose focus while zooming in. I am guessing Panasonic is Already working on PDAF in a huge way.
I read in some Fuji interview that faster focussing needs much lighter moving parts within the lens. And that is why their new lenses are being planned accordingly. 
We basically just got a Hint of the GH5's features. It is going to be a real powerhouse. 

The specs seem INSANE. Either it's a HUGE JOKE, or Olympus will effectively bring the end of a few DSLR makers.
 
"... will be equipped with the newly-developed high-speed TruePic VIII Image Processor which is 3.5 times faster than previous TruePic processors and a new 20.4 megapixel Live MOS sensor equipped with 121 points of cross-type on-chip phase detection and contrast detection AF. These technologies will work with the camera’s electronic shutter to provide full resolution images at up to an unprecedented 60 frames per second in AF and AE lock, and up to 18 frames per second with continuous AF and AE tracking."
 
https://m.dpreview.com/news/9740173952/olympus-announces-e-m1-mark-ii-development

The Yi Xiaomi Action Camera got quickly hacked so I'm feeling optomistic hackers might bring something AWESOME to the Yi M1 as well! :-D

Panasonic will probably have to throw in fast processors because it must handle 4K 60p and 10bit 422, so I think they will have horse power covered.

The specs seem INSANE. Either it's a HUGE JOKE, or Olympus will effectively bring the end of a few DSLR makers.
 
"... will be equipped with the newly-developed high-speed TruePic VIII Image Processor which is 3.5 times faster than previous TruePic processors and a new 20.4 megapixel Live MOS sensor equipped with 121 points of cross-type on-chip phase detection and contrast detection AF. These technologies will work with the camera’s electronic shutter to provide full resolution images at up to an unprecedented 60 frames per second in AF and AE lock, and up to 18 frames per second with continuous AF and AE tracking."
 
https://m.dpreview.com/news/9740173952/olympus-announces-e-m1-mark-ii-development

The specs seem INSANE. Either it's a HUGE JOKE, or Olympus will effectively bring the end of a few DSLR makers.
 
"... will be equipped with the newly-developed high-speed TruePic VIII Image Processor which is 3.5 times faster than previous TruePic processors and a new 20.4 megapixel Live MOS sensor equipped with 121 points of cross-type on-chip phase detection and contrast detection AF. These technologies will work with the camera’s electronic shutter to provide full resolution images at up to an unprecedented 60 frames per second in AF and AE lock, and up to 18 frames per second with continuous AF and AE tracking."
 
https://m.dpreview.com/news/9740173952/olympus-announces-e-m1-mark-ii-development

In 4k. He said it. And it showed on the Screen too

So true. I see all these frustrated Camera users who want like 100MP Stills and 4 million ISO on M4/3 cameras. And they don't want to spend anything more than a 2-3 year old point and shoot.

The $697 Body only price is a mistake. B&H seems to have removed that from the search results, though they have inadvertently, forgotten to remove the URL, that you just posted. 


The price is extremely competitive. I noticed some very interesting features, on this one, from the Imaging Resource website:
 
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-g85/panasonic-g85A.HTM
" .. due to the G85's more durable construction (more on that later), the shutter is also quieter than not only the G7 but also the GX85 by about four decibels. Not only is it sturdy, lightweight and compact, but it's also very quiet, making it an excellent choice for events, ceremonies, and other sound-sensitive environments .."

Interesting. This must be due to the weather-sealing. I wonder how much the 4 Extra Decibels translates in real terms. Would one actually be able to use it at live events, without a plethora of abuses being hurled. 

  "Panasonic is claiming up to 5-stops of image stabilization correction, besting the 4-stop, first-generation Dual I.S. system of the GX85. According to Panasonic, the new system, by way of the Venus Engine processor, controls both the lens' optical I.S. system and the sensor-shifting mechanism simultaneously for better angle compensation. This new stabilization system should provide up to 5-stops of correction all the way out to an equivalent focal length of about 280mm ..."

This will offer one stop of better shake compensation over the GX85. I am suspecting, it is due to the heavier body, and not the MagAlloy front side, like Panasonic Claims. Panasonic may have discovered it by accident. 

  " .. front face of the camera's chassis is solid magnesium alloy, while the top and back panels are both polycarbonate."

Interesting ONLY the front side of the camera is magnesium alloy. The back is still, surprisingly, plastic. Drop it, on the front side, if you must 
  "G85 does have in common with the GH4's video options includes Cinelike D and Cinelike V picture styles for increased dynamic range in videos and easier color grading capabilities"

I guess everyone knew this would get CinelikeD and CinelikeV. Though, they don't mention anything about VLog, which is appears not to be a feature available.  


 

Livepics of Gh5 and the new lenses https://www.ephotozine.com/article/development-of-panasonic-gh5---3-new-lenses-announced--29922
Some more pics with battery grip and more http://www.photographyblog.com/news/panasonic_gh5_hands_on_photos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+photographyblog+PhotographyBLOG

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1280825-REG/panasonic_dmc_gm85kbody_lumix_dmc_g85_mirrorless_micro.html
 
$697, body only

I dunno whether this is the Final price, but pocket-lint claims, that the price of the Panasonic G80 is £699 ($911) Body Only. 

I am guessing, then, that the price of the G80 would be $999 with a kit lens

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138806-photokina-2016-all-the-best-new-cameras-for-2016-from-the-show

Those are beastly specs.

Hope it's under $2K usd?

10-bit is only available in camera up to 4K 30p. Perhaps 10-bit 60p for external recording? 

I believe it also has a flip-out screen.