Fav AI outcome out there...

[Emanuel]

Here is an impressive series of snacks:

https://www.youtube.com/@CommonHub/videos

In this case, MidJourney, Runway ML e ElevenLabs have been used according to the sources found:

 

 

 

[BTM_Pix]

My favourite AI outcome would be for it to fuck right off.

[Emanuel]

5 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

My favourite AI outcome would be for it to fuck right off.

Well, I understand and even second such input (how to not praise such resistent standpoint BTW?), for some reason you don't find in the title up there "My fav" but only "Fav"... let alone the expression "out there" too -- followed by those three dots aka ellipsis ; ) however, I think these tools are just arriving to stay, I guess whether we like it or not. 

We have to admit this development (not exactly a synonym of creation or the word 'art' would have been added) is impressive, no matter how sensible we are to the presence of this controversial level of arsenal. 

Can it be a PITA? Oh, in all likelihood...

Better to see these implements as they are or can be, handy toolset for mere creative refinement when applied in good hands, no less (not everywhere and anywhere) and six hours of work for this sample, as due:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16HdVQ9Acj/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

IMHO the more we can juxtapose -- the right word, the more we hit the home run...

 

I simply hate the current hollywood Marvel trend and alike, they actually are destroying the art of motion picture. The remaining part left is trying to get a better idea how make it at bright side. The more many-sided we can face it as multiple layers of instruments we're able to add to the orchestra. 

A bit like distribution windows when the streaming is placing people outside the big screen and the social/aesthetic experience of the movie theatre. At a certain point, can cinema (aka the art of) be considered dead or sorta like the painting when photography popped up? ;- )

 

- EAG

[Geoff_L]

Cool, one step closer to completely unburden us, humans, from all those unnecessary skills of ours.

[filmmakereu]

20 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Better to see these implements as they are or can be, handy toolset for mere creative refinement when applied in good hands, no less (not everywhere and anywhere) and six hours of work for this sample, as due:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16HdVQ9Acj/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Incredible piece!

[BTM_Pix]

On 5/4/2025 at 10:02 AM, Emanuel said:

I think these tools are just arriving to stay, I guess whether we like it or not. 

I don’t really agree with “if you can’t beat them, join them” attitude to stuff like this.

Being a right wing imbecile is very much on the rise but it doesn’t mean we should just fall into line with it.

AI should be used for taking away mundanity like doing the dishes and laundry from our lives to free us up to do the fun and creative stuff not steal that from us.

On 5/4/2025 at 10:02 AM, Emanuel said:

We have to admit this development (not exactly a synonym of creation or the word 'art' would have been added) is impressive

I’ve got admiration for whoever’s work was used to “train” this but only contempt for those who are facilitating and grifting on the blatant theft of original work.

On 5/4/2025 at 10:02 AM, Emanuel said:

I simply hate the current hollywood Marvel trend and alike, they actually are destroying the art of motion picture

Do you not see that these tools that you are espousing will only make that situation immeasurably worse ?

This will literally give these people the ability to say “yeah just make that last one again with a slight variation and set in a different location” and churn this shit out even faster and with waaayyyy more profitability than they do now ?

[Emanuel]

4 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don’t really agree with “if you can’t beat them, join them” attitude to stuff like this.

Being a right wing imbecile is very much on the rise but it doesn’t mean we should just fall into line with it.

AI should be used for taking away mundanity like doing the dishes and laundry from our lives to free us up to do the fun and creative stuff not steal that from us.

I’ve got admiration for whoever’s work was used to “train” this but only contempt for those who are facilitating and grifting on the blatant theft of original work.

Do you not see that these tools that you are espousing will only make that situation immeasurably worse ?

This will literally give these people the ability to say “yeah just make that last one again with a slight variation and set in a different location” and churn this shit out even faster and with waaayyyy more profitability than they do now ?

I can't say I disagree with you, on the opposite. I just try to be as neutral as possible. Placing my opinion out of the equation. It doesn't depend on my wish a lot of stuff. AI is only another small portion of it I become used to since ever.

This doesn't mean any endorsement. Let alone for copyright purposes. AI will only bring challenges for the subject matter. Is this a concern? Yes, too. We can't do anything but face it. Why should we leave the idea to safeguard legit copyright? Of course, not! This presence even increases the need to protect it more than ever. Who knows bringing more chances of copyright infringement for getting a fair compensation from? : P Strictly seen from a profit POV... So, what can seem bitter, may end upside down -- I will say it again, in good hands.

The same for the toolkit. I am against guns in wrong hands -- I take the example though. They can save a lot of different and crucial or critical aspects with positive handling, no less. Even useful/helpful at times. It's not the instrument itself but THE hand behind to pull the trigger...

A lot of people here are used to infer action cameras are plain crap, as for instance... I'd rather take any capture device as promising cinematic experience. Well, not all of them : D but the last upgrade for sure when not old rigs! I think that's what a 8mm/16mm background or analogue video or old DV formats have brought up to here before the digital REDvolution.

A bit like almost everything in life (not all the time for anything or anyone whatsoever, anyways, the orange man is the fine example... when zero tolerance applies or is called for ; ) I usually tend to reject the standpoint to see the things B&W : )

 

I guess this won’t apply to everyone in this industry or business, or to all people interested in the various crafts and trades involved. But as a film producer and filmmaker, reading what Clayton Jacobson wrote about his experience* with a mix of Midjourney, Photoshop, and Runway (Gen-4), I can only fully empathise with and feel committed to his thoughts and approach to such a bloody toolset:

 

«Another dance with the devil. An Ai test this time playing with emotion and screen direction.

Testing how close i can get Ai to adhere to direction of performance. Ain’t nowhere near as satisfying as directing real actors and being surprised and delighted with their invention on set.

But I can see this being useful for possible background or crowd scenes behind an actual live performance or near impossible action or dangerous scenes where you wouldn’t want a real actor to be placed in danger. Integrating these techniques with trad film making will be a game changer rather than the all or nothing approach.

For the record these tests aren’t just prompts there is a lot of set up and shifting between different platforms to get something even remotely usable. But I won’t lie as a creative - having an idea and seeing a result in hours rather than years is exciting.

The average feature film takes 8-15 years to go from idea to audience let that sink in. After Kenny was released I spent 15 years trying to get the gatekeepers interested in my next project and it never happened. The industry is built to say NO 99% of the time AI says yes to me Constantly. For now I’m enjoying the freedom and sandbox joy of it all.

A few interesting projects in the pipeline…»

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* That aforementioned link posted above came from a partner in crime with me since 1998 and with three feature movies already distributed worldwide in our back... (EAG :- )