Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon

[ArashM]

I'm running the camera and 7" Hollyland monitor off one V-mount, recording internally to a Lexar 512 silver CFexpress card. The camera battery is in the grip but fully charged. Camera is powered via usb-c and we are indoors so far about 20-21 C.

The clips/takes are about 30 - 45 minutes each per interview.

I *THINK* the overheating would be at extreme use, ( I have never had to shoot anything at 6k 60p or 120p in Pro Res HQ for 2 hours + in one take.....) but no issue so far with anything that I think is "normal" use!

 

[MrSMW]

7 hours ago, ArashM said:

the Sigma 27-70 L mount

The 24-70, 28-70 or the new secret 27-70mm f1 lens?

I have the not so secret 28-70 and think it’s a great lens; light, compact, minimal zoom extension.

[MrSMW]

7 hours ago, ArashM said:

Double post 😝

[newfoundmass]

So I got a chance to play with this today for a couple hours. My friend Zack bought it and has been using it for the last two weeks. He really likes it and from my limited time with it I too quite liked it. 

In the time I had with it it didn't overheat and Zack says he hasn't experienced overheating either. Mind you it's spring here in Vermont and the temperature today was 62 degrees (Fahrenheit) so I wouldn't expect it to. But I know some folks experienced overheating indoors in similar temperatures so I can't really say that it's not an issue, just that we recorded for about 80 minutes on an SD card and had no issue in that environment. I only filmed in 4K, as I'm not that interested in higher resolutions, so I can't really speak about anything else. 

Doing my own rolling shutter test (basically simulating how I'd film one of my sporting events) I found it to be more than acceptable. If you're whipping the camera around like a maniac I'm sure it stinks, but if you put even a little bit of effort into being steady it's really not an issue. 

Things I didn't like: I think the image is slightly better than the S5ii, but they're very close. I wish we could get something closer to the first generation of S cameras. Battery life is meh. While it didn't die it was very close, I think. I don't mind the body, but it doesn't feel very premium. I

[ArashM]

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

The 24-70, 28-70 or the new secret 27-70mm f1 lens?

I have the not so secret 28-70 and think it’s a great lens; light, compact, minimal zoom extension.

Sorry and thank you for the correction, yes the 24-70

[ArashM]

6 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I wish we could get something closer to the first generation of S cameras.

It's true, on it's own I think it's a fine camera and I've enjoyed it so far, but it is not a true replacement for the S1R, That camera felt much more elevated and bar non, one of my favourite so far!

[MrSMW]

Decision made, I am sticking with LUMIX regardless of what Nikon or Sony do next.

S1Rii inbound...

Here's my reasoning and intentions for those that are interested in such things!

Currently I am using:

S9 + 2x S5ii for my video work, plus a Sony A7RV and a Nikon Zf for stills.

That's 5 camera bodies plus 9 lenses spread over 3 systems with 3 different menus, batteries, handling/haptics etc.

In summary, it works, but not without issues.

I am switching to 4 camera bodies plus 7 lenses over 1 system.

I have 3 principal aims:

A: Reduce the amount of kit I have to work with and

B: Have it all within one single cross-compatible system.

C. Ability to pull 6k stills from video footage on a consistent basis.

Nikon is or was an option with Z8 + 2x Z6iii + Zf and all my Tamron e:Mount lenses would work just fine, but the negatives for me are mainly; no write to second card back up, Vlog is easier/better to grade and looks better to my eye (marginal but looks that way to me) and costs a few thousand more than an all LUMIX line up.

Sony has the best lens lineup options for me and I prefer the FX style bodies by a large margin, but no 6k camera (at least for now) kills it for me. 

Nikon may come out with this rumoured ZR for 2026 and it may answer some of my current Nikon criticisms...but it may not and if it does, c'est la vie, 'sideways' rather than anything I actually need.

Ditto Sony. It's the lens lineup mainly that is the draw and if there was a 6k camera available now, I would probably have gone in that direction and in FX style bodies, it would have sealed the deal, but again, even if that comes into being by the end of this year, too late for me and I'm not a brand hopper for the sake of the latest new thing just because it's the latest new thing, ie, this current crop of ex-Sony Shillsters to now LUMIX Shillsters are all going to be hopping back in the direction of Sony within the next 6 months for sure.

Nope, I can't and won't do that. If I have a Porsche, I might look at Ferrari or Aston and think, "yep, they're nice, but I already have a Porsche and it's fantastic". (I don't, - I have a used 150,000 miler Skoda Octavia Scout 😜 )

I'm 2 weddings in to a 17 wedding season and the new boy won't arrive in time for the next 2 which I leave for on Monday, but at least the 13 jobs after that will all be with the new system which will now comprise the following:

S1Rii with Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 until I have sold all the stuff I need to sell and then will be picking up the Sigma 28-45mm f1.8 for indoor use and use my existing LUMIX 70-200mm f4 for outdoor use. I hate lenses that extend with zooming and neither of these do! Hybrid use, - mainly stills but I will also shoot video with this.

S9 with 18/50/85mm f1.8 on freestanding monopod which is my current and going forward will now share duties with the S1Rii as my 'run & gun' units.

Pair of S5ii's remain as my 2x statics with any 2 of the above 6 lenses that are not in use on the S1Rii or S9 at any given time, but at some point, I am going to add the Sigma 28-105mm f2.8 into the mix, ie, still 1 less body and 2 less lenses than I have currently been using this year and last, but the 28-105 will give me a bit more flexibility that my current L Mount lens lineup lacks.

The only thing that put me off doing this sooner really was the body design...

It's not that exciting and I was hoping for something more S1H or even Sony FX style but upon reflection, it's a better body than the S5ii being slightly chunkier, a MUCH better rear LCD and a few knobs and whistles that improve the overall use.

Dream camera? Probably not, but a very very solid move (for me) I think.

The bottom line is once you have pushed that button, how do you feel about it and will I miss the A7RV and Zf?

I feel good about it actually because the positives outweigh any negatives and the Sony + Nikon pairing has been stellar, but there is simply a better (for me) option now.

7.2k 30p Open Gate Vlog here we come...

 

 

[zerocool22]

I might be wrong, but did the a7siii not have better highlight rolloff? I thought I saw a video somewhere. 

[MrSMW]

1 hour ago, zerocool22 said:

I might be wrong, but did the a7siii not have better highlight rolloff? I thought I saw a video somewhere. 

 

 

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all in my best Scooby Doo impersonation 

[ArashM]

5 hours ago, MrSMW said:

 

7.2k 30p Open Gate Vlog here we come...

 

 

congrats,

The S1Rii may not be a dream camera, but it's been a fantastic tool that just shows up and works.

I really enjoy the files for stills, (I've mostly pushed mine into stills duty) tether shooting into C1 feels a wee bit slow, but not bad enough to make it annoying. The only strange thing the s1R2 has done for me is make me want a GFX100ii 🙂

[zerocool22]

7 hours ago, MrSMW said:

 

 

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🥱

😘

all in my best Scooby Doo impersonation 

So highlight rolloff does not matter to you? I don't want to come off as a guy which says camera A does this better then camera B. But surely you would think a new camera would beat a 5 year old camera. Z

Allthough it still overheats, and as an hybrid it still is flawed in the flash photography department.

I am not interested in the influencer reviews. And in the end its just a tool and what you put in front of it is much more important.. But highlight rolloff is never stated in the spec sheets.