Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 29, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 29, 2020 Viewing distance acts as an anti-aliasing filter You should try some 1080/100fps clips on a cinema projector and sit back It actually doesn't look too bad. The pixel binning sensor readout always improved on the big screen compared to a computer screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Maybe I should add a black pro mist filter when using 100fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 29, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 29, 2020 Yeah. Not a bad idea actually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Whitten Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 For me the 10bit CDNG is not obviously sharpened or extremely prone to moire and artefacts. Shooting at 25fps only. Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The CDNG's are never sharpened, but they are line skipped/binned at the higher frame rate 100fps, I will check at 60fps, I think that will be better. Chris Whitten and PannySVHS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 30, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2020 51 minutes ago, Chris Whitten said: For me the 10bit CDNG is not obviously sharpened or extremely prone to moire and artefacts. Shooting at 25fps only. Nice shots, especially in terms of the tonality and colour. Would love to see more. It's true there is hardly anything to worry about in those frames - no aliasing, they look close to 6K RAW stills Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Whitten Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Thanks. I used the Blackmagic Design setting in both colour space and gamma. I find the FP CDNG footage very easy to basic grade (exposure, saturation etc). Then as I am usually looking for a stylised final look, I dropped someone's Kodakrome LUT on a final node - which gives it the darker contrast with richer colours. I'm often doing it quick and dirty for films on Instagram to support my music. The shirt has a weave pattern (as well as the check) I know I would have had moire problems with using my original BMD Pocket five or six years ago. Vintage Jimothy and Andrew Reid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 If you have a smallHD monitor it has a build in LUT for black magic 4k film, When you enable this LUT in combination with the "Sigma Color mode off" I get a great preview for monitoring It may work well on a black-magic or ninja too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 30, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lars Steenhoff said: If you have a smallHD monitor it has a build in LUT for black magic 4k film, When you enable this LUT in combination with the "Sigma Color mode off" I get a great preview for monitoring It may work well on a black-magic or ninja too. Which implies BMD Film LUTs may work in post for the Flat profile? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 They work fine for me, I'm using filmconvert Nitrate in resolve with good results. And I can export those luts to my monitor for viewing on set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The BMD extended film seems to be good too, I need to make some test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 30, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2020 Makes me wonder if this is LOG without the branding Lars Steenhoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 It does feel save to record in "color mode off" when using mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 30, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2020 Wonder if Long GOP codec is improved? Or is ALL-I still the way to go. I'll do some shooting tomorrow. Lars Steenhoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuau Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Does anyone know when Atomos or BlackMagic will release new firmware to support ProRes Raw or BMRAW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuau Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 9:53 AM, Lars Steenhoff said: The BMD extended film seems to be good too, I need to make some test I also like BlackMagic 4K Film to Rec709 V3 for a quick grade and using your setup in Camera Raw which is IMHO 100% the correct way to work with CInemaDNG files. Lars Steenhoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I think, based on information on the gamma of a sensor and tests of the color gamut of the Sigma fp, which showed it was close to REC2020, that the best base for grading 12bit CNG RAW is using Resolve Color Management, starting with a linear gamma and REC2020 gamut transformed to REC709. Here is a video I shot of flora, of different colors. Sure videos of flora are boring, but you see colors you know from real life, and the video is less boring than that of a color chart. And, of course, videos with added distorting "cinematic" LUTS (Kodacolor!), just obscure, so this does nothing but increase color saturation. It pretends not to be cinematic, but there is a chicken in the video. I think the colors are fine. Thomas Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Whitten Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Just sold my BMPCC4K. kuau and markr041 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63degreesnorth Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 https://vimeo.com/433312447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Whitten Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Thanks. Interesting. I watched it and will try your approach on my next batch of footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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