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It's a little early but just playing with those clips a bit more, I'm really not that happy with the colors. This reminds me of my GH4 and my struggles getting really good color out of it. It's a little better than my Sony A7s and 6300 but not as good as the Samsung NX1. 

To be honest, I'm a little bit less enthused about it now than I was last week.  Hmmm.. decisions..

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15 minutes ago, SuperSet said:

It's a little early but just playing with those clips a bit more, I'm really not that happy with the colors. This reminds me of my GH4 and my struggles getting really good color out of it. It's a little better than my Sony A7s and 6300 but not as good as the Samsung NX1. 

To be honest, I'm a little bit less enthused about it now than I was last week.  Hmmm.. decisions..

It's the VLog and 25Mbps codec...I would suggest "getting it in camera" when shooting 180fps. 

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25 minutes ago, SuperSet said:

Ah, I see what you mean now, Luke. You can't push that image around much. I can especially see it with Pete's selfie clip.

Maybe Panasonic will be able to improve the bit rate here come release time.

That one IS a bit different than the others as the color temp of the flash on his phone was really weird.  The other clips were easier to get "right"...or at least close.

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10 hours ago, Neumann Films said:

It's the VLog and 25Mbps codec...I would suggest "getting it in camera" when shooting 180fps. 

Are their any step-changes in quality as you go down from 180fps with the variable frame rate option?

Say 120fps or 96fps - any more detailed and less aliasing?

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There is either a lot of NR going on or the compression is at fault, but a lot of detail is missing ...especially noticable on the skin (subjective as I wouldn't recognise it on a wall).

The screenshots are taken from frames were some detail was still visible. It's not kinefinity but it's a joy to grade nevertheless.

If possible I really would like to see how CineD is behaving.

girls_hair_01.jpg

Pete_fire_01.jpg

Luke_walk_01.jpg

Pete_selfie_01.jpg

Luke_snow_02.jpg

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12 hours ago, Neumann Films said:

It's the VLog and 25Mbps codec...I would suggest "getting it in camera" when shooting 180fps. 

Yeah V-log L with GH4 4K 8 bit footage was a no-no, Panasonic didn't even publicly deny that. That issue of not being able to push the image is even more so the case with higher fps where you get a really low bitrate per frame. How'd you come up with 25mbps? I'm guessing you mean 25MBps even though I know you know your stuff and that that's not the normal way to communicate it... so I'm a little confused here. VFR was 100mbps on the GH4 and I imagined it'd be around 150mbps on the GH5. I'm interested to see how the REC 709 profile looks, natural with a lowered contrast was a good baked in look on the GH4. Also, there's LUT preview monitoring, right? Does that include luts you can import? I know you can save your camera settings to an SD card - so I imagine adding in different input or creative luts wouldn't be difficult. Also, thank you for the GH5 content!

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8 minutes ago, AnthonyWithNoH said:

Yeah V-log L with GH4 4K 8 bit footage was a no-no, Panasonic didn't even publicly deny that. That issue of not being able to push the image is even more so the case with higher fps where you get a really low bitrate per frame. How'd you come up with 25mbps? I'm guessing you mean 25MBps even though I know you know your stuff and that that's not the normal way to communicate it... so I'm a little confused here. VFR was 100mbps on the GH4 and I imagined it'd be around 150mbps on the GH5. I'm interested to see how the REC 709 profile looks, natural with a lowered contrast was a good baked in look on the GH4. Also, there's LUT preview monitoring, right? Does that include luts you can import? I know you can save your camera settings to an SD card - so I imagine adding in different input or creative luts wouldn't be difficult. Also, thank you for the GH5 content!

I meant 25Mbps, yeah. 

EDIT...I said 25Mbps originally, not 25mbps.

2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Are their any step-changes in quality as you go down from 180fps with the variable frame rate option?

Say 120fps or 96fps - any more detailed and less aliasing?

Looks like 120fps is up in the 40Mbps range.

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15 minutes ago, Neumann Films said:

I meant 25Mbps, yeah. 

EDIT...I said 25Mbps originally, not 25mbps.

Looks like 120fps is up in the 40Mbps range.

Why would they not allow 40Mbps for the 180fps this is ridiculous :( Probably a cripple for their Cine cameras..

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