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Just now, shooter said:

Does it work on both auto and manual focus?

Yes, in fact, I always leave the camera set on manual. Sometimes I use tap to focus, sometimes not. It works great with the Panasonic app as well, for example, if you're vlogging from home, you can use the touch screen on your smart phone or tablet. 

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4 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Yes, in fact, I always leave the camera set on manual. Sometimes I use tap to focus, sometimes not. It works great with the Panasonic app as well, for example, if you're vlogging from home, you can use the touch screen on your smart phone or tablet. 

What's the percentage of success going on the method of trial and error using tap to focus? Any hint?

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11 minutes ago, shooter said:

What's the percentage of success going on the method of trial and error using tap to focus? Any hint?

Trail and error? I've never done any tests. The other day was the first time it's happened. There was a well-lit contrasty building behind my face and it fooled the camera. But it can happen any time, there are examples online of tap to focus not working perfectly. I can run some tests tomorrow, but this isn't the GH5, it's the G85, so in another thread.

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10 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Trail and error? I've never done any tests. The other day was the first time it's happened. There was a well-lit contrasty building behind my face and it fooled the camera. But it can happen any time, there are examples online of tap to focus not working perfectly. I can run some tests tomorrow, but this isn't the GH5, it's the G85, so in another thread.

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I see. So you tried to focus your face and the camera focused the background? Maybe in autofocus? Did you see if in manual mode the tap to focus behaves the same? 

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3 minutes ago, shooter said:

I see. So you tried to focus your face and the camera focused the background? Maybe in autofocus? Did you see if in manual mode the tap to focus behaves the same? 

I had the camera set to manual and tapped on my face. Next time, I'll have to tap the LCD. :) 

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32 minutes ago, Fritz Pierre said:

Does the camera "see" these batteries when you use them?

Of course it does. What I am saying is that the metering isn't as precise or consistent but then just slightly so. I have had shit batteries like DSTE where the metering goes from 2/3rds to flashing red like in 10 minutes. I have another Patona double charger for GX85 and use a single power adapter from Ravpower to feed both of these as well as AA/18350 battery charger (it has three outputs, each rated at 2.4A). Pretty handy and compact setup.

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3 minutes ago, jonpais said:

I had the camera set to manual and tapped on my face. Next time, I'll have to tap the LCD. :) 

:) 

I meant maybe, if in autofocus, the camera had tried to correct and focus the background instead, no?

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4 minutes ago, shooter said:

:) 

I meant maybe, if in autofocus, the camera had tried to correct and focus the background instead, no?

Not sure. Could be the camera, could be user error, could be my horoscope. It actually might be a good tool, since it's poor technique to shoot in front of a contrasty building anyway, as we saw in a slow motion video uploaded by Hanriverprod recently.

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Just now, jonpais said:

Not sure. Could be the camera, could be user error, could be my horoscope. 

haha Have you noticed it frequently in your Panasonic camera?

I'm not Panasonic user. Maybe GH5 will be the same.

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Just now, shooter said:

haha Have you noticed it frequently in your Panasonic camera?

I'm not Panasonic user. Maybe GH5 will be the same.

It just happened on a couple of shots recently, but I've only started vlogging. 

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Just now, jonpais said:

It just happened on a couple of shots recently, but I've only started vlogging. 

If it is in autofocus I can understand. In manual, much difficult to accept this behaviour of the camera. Tap to focus can't be wrong then, it should work fine. 

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19 minutes ago, shooter said:

haha Have you noticed it frequently in your Panasonic camera?

I'm not Panasonic user. Maybe GH5 will be the same.

It happens on my sony rx100 iv. Someone's face will cover most of the screen, but it will still af on the background until I press to refocus. It's okay for vlogging, personal stuff and some pro work like with gimbals, but af is still going to be flaky at times on any camera these day.

If you mean just tap to focus, it was flaky at times on the nx1 as well. For me, I just want the camera to stay focus on something and not hunt. I could care less about transition speed since I will manually focus if that is important. I wonder if the gh5 can do this within it's settings.

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12 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said:

It happens on my sony rx100 iv. Someone's face will cover most of the screen, but it will still af on the background until I press to refocus. It's okay for vlogging, personal stuff and some pro work like with gimbals, but af is still going to be flaky at times on any camera these day.

If you mean just tap to focus, it was flaky at times on the nx1 as well. For me, I just want the camera to stay focus on something and not hunt. I could care less about transition speed since I will manually focus if that is important. I wonder if the gh5 can do this within it's settings.

But tap to focus should behave in a different way if in manual mode, no? 

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1 hour ago, jonpais said:

Trail and error? I've never done any tests. The other day was the first time it's happened. There was a well-lit contrasty building behind my face and it fooled the camera. But it can happen any time, there are examples online of tap to focus not working perfectly. I can run some tests tomorrow, but this isn't the GH5, it's the G85, so in another thread.

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I just watched your Saigon Central Post Office video and you are getting better images out of the g85 than anything I've seen from the gh5, especially the interior shots. I like that you don't try to change the fundamental imaging of the camera to make it something it's not, but work with the camera's inherent characteristics.

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2 hours ago, Orangenz said:

Is it helpful to the thread? Can I take it to private message? Does anyone care that I'm offended? All good questions. On the actual topic then, my new battery charger is 2A, not 0.6 A. For the GH5 the stock charger is not sufficient or quick enough.

Orangenz, when I googled up that charger and clicked on the links, it often said 'no longer available'. Is it a current item or are there different iterations of this same charger?

2 hours ago, jonpais said:

Have you seen Zed ProMedia's review that I posted this morning? I believe he says to expect around 1-1/2 hours from one battery. Do you think that's accurate?

Jon, I think that's a pretty good ballpark number and one that's close to what I've seen. We have all different shooting habits, so battery life can vary.

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20 minutes ago, shooter said:

But tap to focus should behave in a different way if in manual mode, no? 

yeah, I think it will just refocus and not track but I can't be certain since none of my cameras now have touch screens. Maybe someone else can clear this up especially for the gh5 to stay on topic. I was just saying that for whatever reason even tap to focus can be flaky probably on any camera.

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1 hour ago, jonpais said:

Trail and error? I've never done any tests. The other day was the first time it's happened. There was a well-lit contrasty building behind my face and it fooled the camera. But it can happen any time, there are examples online of tap to focus not working perfectly. I can run some tests tomorrow, but this isn't the GH5, it's the G85, so in another thread.

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Jon, I would never say you look better OOF than in focus...not me. :)

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1 hour ago, shooter said:

I see. So you tried to focus your face and the camera focused the background? Maybe in autofocus? Did you see if in manual mode the tap to focus behaves the same? 

Honestly, I've had the same thing happen with every camera I've ever owned...PDAF or contrast.

14 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Truth hurts. :( 

Nah, just playing. Sometimes we need to lighten things up. ;)

29 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said:

I just watched your Saigon Central Post Office video and you are getting better images out of the g85 than anything I've seen from the gh5, especially the interior shots. I like that you don't try to change the fundamental imaging of the camera to make it something it's not, but work with the camera's inherent characteristics.

The GH5 overall imagery is so close to the G85 (only with better capabilities), I'd say if you gave Jon the GH5, he'd achieve the same or better results.

19 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said:

yeah, I think it will just refocus and not track but I can't be certain since none of my cameras now have touch screens. Maybe someone else can clear this up especially for the gh5 to stay on topic. I was just saying that for whatever reason even tap to focus can be flaky probably on any camera.

As I've experienced it on the GH5, tap to focus in manual mode does not work. When in manual mode, there is a small AF box in the lower right. By touching that, you will get an AF execution within the relatively large rectangular area shown on the LCD. It will not refocus after that until you next hit the AF box in the lower right. 

Using tap to focus in AF mode, you will force the camera to focus on the area you select, but if you change your framing, the focus will continue to change within that box if you've selected continuous AF within the camera's menu.

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