Avenger 2.0

1 hour ago, jack jin said:

Andrew, I think if you don’t limit this to digital, tons of people are just gonna buy a 16mm camera and spend 500 dollars on film. And that kinda defies the indie spirit of this forum. And plus it’s too easy to get good footage out of 16mm film, It will not actually test the filmmakers’s ability to shoot and color grade.

Is it even possible to get the film developed and digitized that fast? Don't think many people will go that route...

1 hour ago, Video Hummus said:

They must really want someone’s Fisher Price camcorder than. 

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Should also be a price for the person using the cheapest camera and not ending up last  

17 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

As long as the body currently sells for under $200 by itself, if you bought this lens, then you can use the body.

No expensive lenses in the competition please!

No problem, lens and body together was below €200. Just needed the lens, so kind of got the body for free with it

14 minutes ago, Maccam said:

Is color grading footage allowed?

Good question. I think it would be more fair if it wasn't allowed. Just straight from camera using build-in picture profiles. We'll see what Andrew says.

I'm in! Just bought an expensive lens with free body included (or was it the other way around?) Now waiting for UPS to f*ck up delivery as usual.

Not in the rules, but I guess no ML RAW allowed as was discussed in previous topic (as you can find a 50D or EOS M for under $200).

1 hour ago, kye said:

GH5 for under $200?  I'll take it!

Indeed, I would to. Did however find a GH4 in mint condition for €200 (after I sold the 14-140mm lens for €300). But not planning to get it lost in the contest

If you are serious about video you should learn Davinci Resolve. Otherwise free Windows Movie Maker for basic stuff if you want no real learning curve. Used myself PowerDirector in the past (small learning curve), but cannot recommand it now as it is moving towards subscription like Adobe...

24 minutes ago, loybart said:

guys,

I just pulled the trigger for this camera. However, the firmware version is 1.6 something and canon's site is only offering 2.3. Where can i download a credible 2.2 version? I understand the 2.3 on ML will brick the camera. 

 

thanks.

Should be on the ML website. The 2.3 has an experimental ML version. You can also always downgrade back to 2.2.

Are you allowed to use more than one lens if you use prime lenses? I have a lot of cheap vintage prime lenses (m42), but only expensive zoom lenses.

Which affordable Canon (excluding Magic Lantern) is any good for (semi-)cinematic image? The M50?

Is it still worth buying a GH5 right now (~€1300) or is it better to wait for the GH6?

22 minutes ago, ZEEK said:

I know people who have tested the EVF-DC1 on the original EOS M and have stated that it "doesn't" work. Not sure about the EVF-DC2 I would presume that won't work either.
I use this: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/V6-Magnifier-Hood-LCD-2-8x-Viewfinder-Extender-Magnetic-For-CANON-Eos-M/252672339287?epid=874907218&hash=item3ad471ed57:g:0RAAAOSwsW9YyVQF
Does the trick. Funny thing, I actually superglued the frame to the EOS M, looks great and the Viewfinder works like a charm! 

The EOS M doesn't have any added hotshoe contact (data) pins, so either won't work.

14 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

None of the pros I work with use dual card slots for backup. It's just more space. Then again, none of us shoot weddings. But it's not like we can ask for a reshoot either.

In my mind, it's more likely that the camera is the issue, not the card. When ever I have had a problem in the past, dual slots would just have meant twice the number of corrupt files.

Regarding color science it's just as important in raw for me (at least for stills). It's all about keeping the time spent in post to a minimum. Time really is money.

Have already had sd cards fail on me (SanDisk extreme pro). Most of the time just some corrupted images but also a whole card. For wedding I would always use dual cards. Other less critical events, things you can reshoot or backup on site, one card is fine. Never had a camera generating corrupt files on both cards (unless a single battery dies). Does not frequently happen (at least with Canon) I think.

Are you sure you can record with HDMI for longer than 30min?
With the M50, the sleep timer has a max setting of 30min, so no unlimited recording!

Are you sure it's 10-bit? People online are saying 8-bit 4:2:2.
That would be the same as the M50, but with clean hdmi added.
Indeed strange about the 24p 1080p. At least the M50 still has that in NTSC (in PAL already removed).

Somehow with SL3/250D PAL has 24p completely removed and only 25p in 4k and 1080p.
Guess the chipset can only handle 25fps 4k max? But why remove the 1080p modes?

Maybe Magic Lantern to the rescue some day...

The VILTROX EF-M2 is cheaper, but it will be optically not as good as the Metabones.
And since quality control is lacking, you might even get a really bad one.
You can also buy the VILTROX EF-M1, which is the same but without the focal reducer.
Let's you control the aperture and do AF without loss in optical quality.

4 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

Oh that sucks, kind of defeats the purpose of mounting two batteries for me. 

Do they both discharge at the same time too?

For example, if 2 batteries gave you 4 hours, could you run it for 2 hours, change 1 battery and still have 4 hours to go?

They discharge at the same time as they are just connected in series to get the 14,4V needed (2x7,4V).
You should change them at the same time and only use equally charged (and same capacity) batteries together.

Guess the only advantage is that F970 batteries are cheaper than V-mount batteries and some people might have already lots of them.

21 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said:

This is an interesting solution. Vmount to dual npf pries with power meters and dtap.

Hot swappable external power that's pretty cheap to run all daylong.

https://www.amazon.de/Baxxtar-1837-2-V-Mount-Adapter-Ausgang/dp/B077VQ7PVL

Have one and works fine, but the F970 batteries are not hot swappable as they are internally connected in series. Disconnect one and the rig loses power.

Bought a used 5D3 with low shutter count (<40k) for €899 incl tax with 1 year warranty in a dutch camera shop. So it is possible to find a 5D3 below $1000 if you are patiently.

Still looking for a workhorse camera for wedding video around max $1500 with a digital film look. Unfortunately a used C100 (ii) is still too expensive. Maybe a GH5, but worry about AF and low-light performance for wedding. Anyone an idea for a good wedding video camera around this budget?

1 hour ago, MeanRevert said:

Yeah, that screen thing don't make no sense.

New screen needs new drivers in firmware. If you would downgrade a new screen bmpcc4k to older firmware the screen would stop functioning. Therefore they block firmware downgrade?

56 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said:

But how is it displaying an image? There's no HDMI cable.

My guess is he took the screen from the BMPCC4K out of the casing and it's still connected with it's ribbon cable to the main pcb.

Nice mod by the way! Looking really professional.

9 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

If you know a teacher or college student as well ??

That would be just as illegal as downloading it from a torrent. The torrent at least is free if you're going the illegal way.

On 5/5/2019 at 5:39 AM, IronFilm said:

It is unfortunate then for those buyers that EOS-M is an almost dead mount which one day Canon will kill off completely. 

 

Magic Lantern will unlock the M50's true (RAW) power and it and all EF-M lenses will get a second life

If you want to switch from Adobe, here is my list.

Lightroom -> On1 Photo Raw, Luminar, Capture One

Photoshop -> Affinitiy Photo

Premiere Pro -> Davinci Resolve

Illustrator -> Affinity Designer

InDesign -> Affinity Publisher (beta)