Video Hummus

Well, it’ll cost you more than $1799 to pickup a S1H and an L mount lens. I have the 10-25 f1.7. It’s a brilliant lens. It will be even more brilliant on a future GH6. If the GH6 has as good lowlight ability as the GH5S then it’s going to be a huge hit as long as it carries on the GH5 tradition. I shot some video of some Elk a couple of days ago. It was dusk, approaching blue hour. I had my 50-200 f2.8-4. I was shooting at 200mm f4 at ISO 10000 and 12800 in 10bit HLG. The noise performance was more than acceptable. I lost a bit of color vitality but it was dusk so it really didn’t matter. The 4K footage downsampled to 1080p didn’t need any noise reduction at all. If I was to keep it at 4K I would have applied noise reduction to some of the clips at 12800. The images were more than useable. I switched out to the 10-25 for some environment shots at at f1.7 I could drop my ISO to 2500-3200 which is a piece of cake for the GH5S.

I’m not discounting the march of technology. But there are physical limits to storage technology. Storage of any kind takes space. Will 8K be mainstream someday. Yep. Will it be sooner than we think? I’m throwing my hat in the “not as soon as you think” rink.

Matt should think about doing more of these Q&A sessions. He doesn’t do much marketing speech and gives clear answers. Seems very welcoming to forwarding requests to engineers. We will get better cameras this way.

6K is the middle ground as a capture resolution. It makes 4K edits flexible in post while also being able to upscale to 8K without much problems at all. I think 8K is still entirely to heavy for almost anybody except huge production houses like BBC or National Geographic that archive high resolution footage for tv shows and documentaries. 8K will be marketed heavily to the CONSUMER in the next 5 years. Especially following the 2020 Olympics. Im not sure it’s very practical for 95% of other video professionals. If you shoot weddings with hours of footage, would you want to shoot in 8K? The data requirements would be enormous. Probably talking tens of terabytes. Youtubers? No way.

It’s worth noting that Kraig was using the sigma 14-24 f2.8 lens. There would be wobble on the wide end for sure!

KnightsFan is exactly right. it would be like ford patenting a car that is 4 feet or greater in length with a attached roof. Cars existed before the model T but didn’t have a roof. Is a roof not obvious enough to grant ford an patent to a car, which is a highly complex piece of equipment, because they slapped on an obvious, preexisting, roof on it and made it longer than 4 feet? A roof is obvious. The length of said object is obvious. The size of RAW images is obvious. RED didn’t invent bigger images. They didn’t make an invention related to the CMOS sensor. They simply bought exclusive rights to a sensor off the shelf. Slapped on JPEG2000 wavelet compression on RAW images (existed before) and submitted a patent for it. Compressed TIFFs existed before RED “invented” RAW compression. They used them to “demo” their REDCODE. The video shows they didn’t put in 12 months of research. They took pre-existing technologies, with pre-existing ideas and then claimed they were novel. The premise behind REDS patent is that their incredibly novel idea was to capture 2K+ RAW images on a camera and compress the RAW images ON THE CAMERA inline and store it (instead of having a computer do it) Fucking ground breaking! The patent is entirely without merit.

You have lots of options for affordable cameras that shoot good. No one cares about red fanboys here. We care about if RED's patent is valid or not. In this case, details matter.

OK, RED's PR is pretty freaking scummy. Claiming everything was in-house and directly innovated by them when it really wasn't and lying to the press about it is shitty business ethics. However, I still find admiration for the fact that RED basically LEGO built their camera and marketed better than any of the established players. The other companies just moved too slow. Can't wait for part 5 about REDCODE since a lot hinges on that patent. I gotta say this has been a great "investigative" documentary series on YouTube.

The bar for Canon is so low for them to have a hot mirrorless camera. 24p, FF or nearly FF 4K, DPAF in 1080p120, Clog, RF mount. 4Kp60 would be nice but not essential. 10bit in at least the 24p mode. They can be forgiven for only 8bit in higher FPS since Canon colors are great SOOC. Thats it. Add a tilt screen and they will win over most people. I would buy that camera and I don’t own any RF or EF glass. But they won’t do it because they want you to drop 5K plus on the body alone. And here comes Sony, slowing eating their lunch while it’s still in Canons hands with better and better hybrid AF and tracking technology. Pretty soon, Canons largest advantage and biggest feature, having DPAF, won’t mean shit.

Make some popcorn before you watch. Because they seem to be developing it from scratch.

Well, just barely. It's 7 stops in body and with a OIS lens its 7.5 stops. Still pretty amazing.

You should make living quarters in there. Start a YouTube channel called cargo truck life. Title of the first video should be: WHY Cargo TRUCK life DESTROYS Van Life”. You will need to photoshop bikini girl on top of your truck for the clicks maybe have the truck crushing a van with the front tire. You know it’s gold.

I wonder what the DR numbers are for high frame double exposure HDR video.

Agreed. EIS has its limits. I think it’s best used like in the newer Olympus cameras in conjunction with IBIS to mitigate or eliminate that jello effect in the corners using sensor data from the actually IBIS mechanism and not by analyzing the image.

I agree. This thing with a good implementation of double exposure HDR video would be hard to beat as a pocket adventure cam for 99.9% of people. I have yet to see low light electronic stabilization from a phone that doesn’t shit the bed.

Sigma can’t go wrong as long as they thoughtful consider user feedback. The NVMe suggestion should be taken seriously. It makes perfect sense for the form factor and the cDNG uncompressed format they are offering. It’s clear they want RAW in this camera and they can only do uncompressed at the moment. Which means high bitrates and large files sizes. NVMe sticks tick all those boxes plus form factor and price per GB. I can see why Panasonic went with dual SD card slots on the S1H. Why didn’t sigma just go with XQD or Express and offer 12bit uncompressed internal?

I don't have this lens but my Dad does on his Olympus. It's probably the best travel lens ever made imho.

This is a hard one Geoff. I would at least wait to see if Fuji has an announcement of the XH2 in September. I really think they are going to pivot that camera to be video centric in nature. Ive heard Fuji glass doesn’t have the best video AF performance (focus noise). Maybe someone can chime in on that and debunk it. I would say keep the Z6. Buy the new BM 7” Video Assist for it. You would get external recording (ProRes RAW someday...) and the 7” model has some serious preamps in the unit. So you could have it record and bake in the audio.

No, next generation hybrids will have dilemma about wether to allow RAW sensor output through an external port such as HDMI or SDI. The external recorders will transform it to BRAW or ProRes. Maybe someday we will see internal RAW on most cameras.

This Quora answer will probably help: https://www.quora.com/Why-did-HDMI-succeed-where-HD-SDI-didnt Basically, money and ease of development. Big surprise.... As far as data rates compared to the SDI-12G HDMI 1.4 is up to 10Gbps HDMI 2.0 is out to 18Gbps

Obstructionist asshole. Obstructing asshole. An Osshole. You're welcome.

Sure. But I won’t walk out of a Apple store and film what I saw in some of the promos. It’s a bit of a misrepresentation. I know it sells phones but I would think people would be more interested in how well it can film their kids or their dog in the heat of the moment.

Maybe the next EOSHD camera challenge should be: Make a video with your smartphone (have a list of approved phones; several generations of android and iPhone). For example, no models lower than an iPhone 7. Make it as cinematic as possible. Make another video with the camera you own with a cap of nothing more expensive than say $2500. Don’t tell people what the videos where filmed on then ask them to guess: phone or DSLR? Have a vote ranking for each. Not sure what the prizes should be. Pretty sure I saw a picturing showing they filmed some of these promos with a wonkier cinema lens setup hooked up to an iPhone and said it was filmed on an iPhone. ?

Setup details: you can indeed live on one kidney. I’m joking of course. I’m a one screen loser.

I won’t judge, but if that is what you are in need of and will trade for, I’ll trade for it ?