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6 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Really? Where are these samples??

It was in a Potato Jet review. Everyone else seems ok. I guess his unit was faulty. 

Overall.. not a bad upgrade but not a breakthough of any sort. They could have easily put a 1\1.3 inch Omnivision sensor in there..

HDR mode remains to be seen, but it will be limited to 2.7K afaik. If the could pull off serious DR with it in 4k than I might be very interested.. 

so it uses 1.7 inch IMX686

demo units have terrible AF, DJI promises to improve it

HD video looks terrible

4K60 is the limit, 4K video looks ok, I wonder if it is possible to turn down oversharpening 

The main lens is a bit wider, around 20mm vs 26 in 1st pocket which is cool

https://dronedj.com/2020/10/17/dji-osmo-pocket-2-appears-to-leak-with-improved-camera/

So here is the leak, no exact specs for now but announcement in 3 days. I hope they don't go for 3yo Sony IMX 586 sensor. I hope for somethings bigger. 

A niche product that is greatly overpriced. 

My list of problems with XT-4 :

- 1.18 crop in 4k60 which is frankly too much, as I use this mode the most for my shooting style. Its bascily 1.52 apc-s crop plus 0.18, which results at 1.7 compared to 2 mft x 0.67 (using Viltrox) = 1.34 on GH5, it will be a serious downgrade if I switch 

- mediocore AF, not very reliable

- warpy edge IBIS 

- recording limits and overheating 

- useless for video manual dials 

I really dont get this camera. Limited to 4k60, no IBIS, no NDs.. and 2000$ really? Zcam for 1500 has 4k160fps albeit it is heavier and has somewhat worse AF but come on! 

18mm Samyang 2.8, 20mm Tamron 2.8 - both cheap and tiny. 

If they would add 4k60 even with a 5 minute limit, I would probably get this camera 🙄

Just want to put out my whishlist for XH2

- 4k120 10 bit, possibly 6k60

- improves IBIS and AF. Specifically for IBIS - a mode to get rid of warpy edges on wide angle (combined with eis I guess) 

- big, bright, 16by10 flippy screen, preferably 4.5 inches or more 

- at least 13 stops of usable DR

- priced under 2000$

We can dream, right? 

And some minor feature I would love :

- VBR mode like on Panasonic 

The DR is quite good on all Panasonic S cameras as I've seen. I have 3 major problems with the system:

- absence of cheap compact lenses 

- AF

- no FF 4k60 

IMO Fuji makes to damn lots of cameras. They should focus on 3-4 models, saving resources, R&D and capitalising on mass production. 

Yeap, there is no point of giving it XT4 specs for half the price, so I would not expect 4k60 even 8 bit. 

1 hour ago, newfoundmass said:

It's still very popular. It can wait until spring, especially with the A7Siii and A7C cameras just coming out. 

What matters is competition. Sony needs to convince ppl to switch to their system. Lots of cameras with 4k60 are already out and more are coming way before the next summer. Not many ppl would want to wait for another year. I personally dont want to wait a year and I would buy something else if Sony postpones this for a whole year. A73 was released more than 2 years ago. 

IMO Sony should release this before Christmas to battle R6 and new ZII cameras from Nikon and Pana S5 probably. A7S3 is quite a niche camera anyway.  

26 minutes ago, zerocool22 said:

Rumour of release date?

Summer 2021

Here is the rumored sensor specs:

That would be a pure Canon Cripple Hammer move if they dont inculde 10 bit. I am fine with 420 btw. 

What I really wish is that they release it this year instead of 2021 summer. 

So the rumored specs are:

• 30MP BSI CMOS Sensor (IMX 554 DQC)
• BIONZ X Image Processor
• Continuous shooting speed @ 15FPS, 10 FPS AF/AE
• UHD 4K60p  with HLG & S-Log3 Gammas
• Full HD 120fps
• vari-angle articulating screen
• 3.69m-dot Quad-VGA OLED Tru-Finder
• Dual SD memory card slots
• USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C, micro-USB port,  3.5mm microphone input
• Magnesium alloy chassis
• NP-FZ100 battery

I would prefer this camera over A7S3 for couple of reasons:

- price (it should be in 2000-2500$ ballpark) 

- 30 mp sensor vs 12, which gives me better photo, better 4k and most importantly apc-s crop mode for video. 

- I dont really need 4k120 that much

- I dont need killer evf of A7S3, I rarely use it

Yeah, if its cheap as fuck, I might get one too..  though I highly doubt it.

So..   no IBIS, no 4k120, no NDs... meh

26 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Actually $2000.

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1442842-REG/z_cam_e1503_e2_professional_4k_cinematic.html

 

From online reviews the ZCams seem to have issues with fixed pattern noise, reliability and after sales. So they aren't without their issues. Also, their 16stops WDR seems to be some out of their hat figure. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1566077-REG/z_cam_e1511_e2_m4_4k_cinema_camera.html?sts=pi&pim=Y

Actually its 1500$ for basically the same camera. 

6 hours ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

Maybe not, considering that Z-Cam could be forced to stop their production very soon because it uses HiSilicon chips.

That's a very stretched out rumor. Nobody will plan a camera release based on that possibility.

Remember that you can Z-cam with 4k160, RAW and WDR for 1500$, so Panasonic need to answer that. 

They do need internal RAW at least 4k60 and non-RAW 4k120. NDs as well.

Even 20-60 2.8 would be very nice. Maybe Panny could do it themselfs. 

Its much wider than 24mm, its a fisheye and is around 16mm. No comparison here. Though I do hate fisheye personally. 

5 hours ago, Trankilstef said:

Interesting DR comparison between the S5 and the BMPCC 6K :

Beating BMPCC6K BRAW is quite impressive.