Simon Young

7 minutes ago, Laurier said:

If the rumours are correct we are getting something better than a Venice or a Fx9 in a much more compact package for less money, that quite mind blowing for me.

This 👆🏻. If they deliver a very solid 4K 10bit 24/25p with good autofocus and s-cinetone I’m getting one for sure. And the rumors about extremely low rolling shutter makes it even more tempting.

It’s also interesting that DPReview says the rolling shutter on the R6 seems to be really well controlled while cinema 5d says its “horrendous”...

If this camera is as good as the rumors with regards to low rolling shutter, good af, no overheating and S-cinetone it’s going to be massive hit. I’m for sure getting one ASAP.

9 minutes ago, androidlad said:

It's a 1.1x crop from 4240-pixel wide sensor for 1:1 4K UHD readout, this crop is there from 24p all the way up to 120p.

I hope you have better intel this time than before (lex Fujifilm XT4) “Luke”. 
 

And if you’re so well informed, any news on IBIS and S-Cinetone?

MarkusPix seems like a thoroughly good dude, I’ve always liked him. And it’s still funny to me how Samsung could have killed all the other camera manufacturers had they only  been a little more patient.

Interesting that Jordan says the R6 has very little rolling shutter when shooting in 4K 24. I doubt it’s any better than the 1dxiii.

Actually a lot of cameras can - and do. If their color science is as pleasing as Canon's is a whole different story.

58 minutes ago, Coiii said:

I don't want 16bit raw. Just put 10 bit raw, 4K60 and VENICE COLOR / CINETONE! Thats all I need.

Yes, I don't even care about raw or 4K60 to be honest. The most important for me is pristine 4K, Cinetone, low rolling shutter and the ability to record for at least one hour in hot conditions without overheating issues.

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-a7sii-successor-has-16bit-raw-output-and-600mbps-bitrate/

Latest rumor: Sony A7sIII has 15 stops dynamic range, 16bit RAW output and 600mbps bitrate, 160 base ISO with S-LOG3

If the rumors about the 12mpx stacked sensors are true, PRAISE FUCKING BE. If they don’t botch it with not including s-cinetone this may well be my dream documentary video camera.

22 minutes ago, padam said:

It is not ALL-I, it is IPB (it uses ALL-I for timelapse and 120fps)

I’m certain I’ve seen the option of recording 1080p 24/25/30 ALL-I in the R6. It’s the 4K options that are strictly limited to IPB from what I understand.

Why would it overheat in 4K 30p and not 24/25p? Makes no sense whatsoever.

But I’m really interested in the 1080p ALL-I from that 20mpx sensor and how it is derived - that is if it will be GH5 and Z50 class (also 20mpx sensors).

Disgusting. Makes the camera unusable for any type of interview work. 

I remember a video where Potatojet puts a whole lot of cameras in a preheated incubator to see how fast they overheat when recording 4K. Funnily enough the Canon 90d just keeps going and going, indefinitely, only with breaks to repress the record button every half hour. This cheap ass camera is thus less prone to let you down on your shoot making you look like an idiot. But then again it doesn’t shoot 8K, nor does it shoot 10bit 422 and it lacks IBIS. But I has really good rolling shutter performance in 4K and very good autofocus.

I know which camera I would rather bring on a paid assignment.

6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Did I miss something and the 4K/24p can have oversampling turned off?

Because it doesn't look like that's the case.

The non-oversampled pixel binning modes are reserved for achieving 4K/60p and 4K/120fps slow-mo

I think it’s possible to turn it off in 4K 24p as they’ve shown videos of the display where you actively have to turn it on in 24p.

I totally agree with you Andrew, the R5 is a pro camera with regards to pricing and as a stills camera it certainly seems to fit the bill, but as a cinema tool or a documentary video camera it’s seems to me that it’s not reliable enough for a wide variety of applications. 

The overheating notwithstanding, really I think it makes a remarkable difference if a camera has 24 ms or 30ms readout speed in video.

As a youtube camera it’s probably great, certainly if you’re a “creator” which basically means reviewing gear with the intent of creating good little consumers out of your followers.

Does anyone know if the 1.1x crop on the R6 in 4K is present on the 1dxiii as well? 

It will be interesting to see real footage from both cameras, especially with regards to overheating and rolling shutter. I'm intrigued that they've chosen to let you decide whether or not you want oversampling when shooting in 4K with the R5 for example. I imagine that that mode is more prone to severe rolling shutter and overheating and so on and so forth.

R5 £4199 and R6 £2499. 

Shameful shit.

According to Nokishita the R6 is most likely using the same sensor and processor as the 1dxIII. Hello 30+ms rolling shutter in 4K.

1 minute ago, heart0less said:

think it's for the better.

The more space, the more efficient heat dissipation.

 

This design really reminds me the good old Canon.
Black bricks with funny buttons.

Agreed. I just hope the rolling shutter performance is better than on the 1dxIII. Can’t see how though.

Nokishita just leaked the R6 product photos. Really chunky looking.

Saw this in the canonrumors comments...

I wonder if Sony will put S-Cinetone in the A7sIII/H or if they’ll just release a new version of the already weird colors, keeping the tradition of non consistency alive. This matters much more than 8K raw imho.