ade towell

I only watched 1st half of the Portugal game as was playing football last night but they seemed in total control, was surprised to hear they needed a bit of luck at the end to win. I still see them and Germany as the strongest teams, with France and Spain just behind. Am English but feel we are not street wise enough to actually win a tournament.

Portugal are a strange mix for me, they have my 3 least favourite players as far as sportsmanship and ego are concerned - Pepe, Ronaldo and Fernandes, but also 2 I love watching - Bernardo Silva and the young Vitinha, a future star. My favourite Portuguese player was Rui Costa, have always loved midfielders.

England are too naive defensively to win a tournament I think, we lack the game management skills of the stronger teams - and we have maybe too many good attacking players to squeeze them all into a team where they are playing in their best positions. But hopefully we will get better as the tournament progresses

I wish your Portuguese team all the best, a Portugal England final would be surprising but amazing, just don't let it go to penalties, our biggest achilles heel 

Z6iii is £2699 in the UK, that's 3193 Euros - harsh

Can get the Z8 for £2840 from Panamoz - grey market but comes with a 3 year UK warranty that they will actually honour

3 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Ohhhh.... and the Z6 mk3 now supports line level audio!! That's also quite unique for a stills cameras, a great feature for a camera to have.

Panasonic S5ii has line level too.

Nonetheless this z6 looks to be another great camera from Nikon

Better than nothing but this camera deserves more than a token gesture on the back a la C100 from however many years ago. Maybe the new Black Magic evf will work with it

But at the price they're asking this camera really should have a decent quality evf included that you can place where you need it 

Hmm no evf, this seems to be a worrying modern trend.

Other than that I'm sure it'll be great 

I find the R5 disappointing for DR in video mode, apparently the R5c has a little more. I think the reason none of Canon's mirrorless have Clog 2 is because they don't have the DR to make use of it

Yes the C70 has RF mount but criminally doesn't have an EVF which for my way of shooting is too important a feature to leave out

I would be happy with apsc too although Canon don't seem to be interested in creating any decent apsc lenses for RF

2 hours ago, zlfan said:

there are very few cameras better than 5d3ml. 

I thought you were all about 60p, 5diii is only any good at 24/25p

Have been using the R5 recently and the DR in video is a long way below the DR in stills, I use Panasonic S5ii when DR is likely to be an issue especially in the shadows - there is something strange going on with the R5 and R6 in the shadows, as though it is cut off prematurely

For an allrounder video camera with internal ND, audio etc there are some great deals on Canon C500ii at the moment, would get my vote although wish it was RF mount

For a stills and video camera the Nikon Z9, Z8 looks hard to beat

Take a look at Amaran and Smallrig

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

This film was quite famously shot with the Sony F35! Thus was already discussed a lot by folks such as us on various forums. 

Yes I remember this - Macgregor a very talented film maker was quite active on DVXuser back in the day

All well considered points it's just that as you say I think the z8/z9 is the latest and greatest regarding image quality and would be excited to use it - the R5c image to me looks very similar to the R6 I was using a while back, nice but kind of Canon vanilla - more of a sideways step.

Anyway they both shoot lovely footage so can't really go wrong either way

Hey I'm only reporting my friends frustrations - but I do think it is a bit ridiculous that they don't have Clog2 on the R5c it is supposed to be part of the Cinema line and would make matching to their other cinema cameras a lot easier.

I have no scientific proof but imagine the reason they don't have Clog2 in the R5c is because it doesn't have the DR to utilise it fully. Maybe they could create a Clog2 lite like Panasonic did with GH5 and Vlog 

There may well be ways of wringing out a bit more DR with the R5c but I have a friend who has C500ii and R5c and their main complaint with the R5c other than battery life is having to use Clog3 to match both and so never using the C500ii to its full potential. Said he tried RAW but was a lot of hassle and needed lots of NR which slowed rendering down hugely, and still the image on the R5c was not quite there with latitude. I realise this is only one person and anecdotal but for them RAW is not practical. Probably fine if you're working on your own with the one camera, have no time constraints, lots of memory cards and don't have to hand footage over. Kind of put me off though.  

From what I’ve seen I think the Z8 and Z9 have the best image and colour separation of all the mirrorlerss cameras, there is something special going on there, the R5c just looks like all the other Canon mirrorless, nice image but lacking a bit in DR and slightly noisier. The sensor tech just seems a bit less cutting edge. Canon have always struggled transferring the DR from still into video on their mirrorless cameras. A real shame as it is there in the rest of the Cinema line from the C70 upwards

For me with the IBIS too the Nikon’s are the clear winner. Their lenses also look like they are better suited to video especially if you use AF being almost silent. I always had trouble finding fast affordable  Canon lenses that weren’t noisy  

Sorry posted at the same time. I always try and buy lenses etc 2nd hand so yes new prices will be much higher.

I think whichever camera you choose will be great there isn't that much between them all. Just feel that the S5ii is the best deal at the moment and size and weight wise it is about right if you plan to use long zoom lenses handheld. And that IBIS is amazing

As I said before I got mine for £100 used, no idea what it goes for now or in your country/EU. I got it because it opens up all the cheap used Canon EF lenses there are and as I say they behave just as well as the Panasonic lenses at least for AF. One great thing about the PAnasonic lenses is that they are pretty much silent when using AF 

It is definitely a larger system than the Fuji and I am a big Fuji fan - used the XT3 for a long time, but the AF on the S5ii is much better than it was on the XT3 which I couldn't trust enough to use in a working environment. FUji AF may have improved since then though, worth finding out if AF is important to you

Not true the Canon lenses i have used with Sigma adapter worked exactly the same as they did on Canon R6 with adapter and the AF works the same as the native Panasonis lenses I have on the S5ii

59 minutes ago, stefanocps said:

Can you immagine now he accept even 1300!!i might say i get it and then in case resell it...but i don t feel like reset something that has a doubtfull provenience..

That said all this, about bulky are just my idea, as i never see one, but i think it is not far from real

 And i terribly agree with kye speech about how people reactnin front of a big or small camera. Yes the real problem with s5 is 24 105...big heavy and expensive. But 1300 for combo camera and lens...i need to erase my mind from it😄

You could buy a used Sigma adapter and used Canon EF lenses like 24-105mm for a lot less money than the Panny 24-105, or super zooms like Tamron 28-300mm if you wanted much bigger range but not too heavy.

I've got to say I don't think the S5ii is too big and feels about the right size with a decent zoom lens especially when handheld. I can get very steady footage. A lighter camera with a long lens on the front will feel imbalanced and footage will suffer accordingly.  The S5ii IBIS also makes a huge difference for handheld. I tried the Fuji xt4 and the IBIS had some issues, not sure if Fuji have fixed that. Lovely image from Fuji though, that and the Panasonic are my favourites  

Looks like you can get the 400 euro reduction on the S5ii in Germany if not in Italy, no Brexit shenanigans then I'd imagine

Yes I mainly use it on the 20mm wide end, the 24-105 has a good range and EF 70-200mm F4 L lenses are very cheap used, I have the light and even cheaper EF 75-300mm Nano for longer stuff

Yes it’s a full frame lens - with crop it’s about 150mm  equivalent.

I got the Sigma adaptor 2nd hand for £100, I’m not sure but there maybe cheaper ones available now but the Sigma has been 100% reliable.

The 20-60mm lens is very good quality for a kit lens

I use the original Canon EF 24-105mm L lens, very cheap and the crop mode on the S5ii is very good if you need more reach

With the Sigma adaptor Canon EF lenses work great for AF on the S5ii too, opens up lots of possibilities 

In the UK there are big cash back reductions at the moment S5ii works out at £1299, that's amazing value and there are great deals with lenses included too

That all sounds great, if I was looking for a new camera this would be the one

2 hours ago, stefanocps said:

i use video, not thinking about photo. Panasonic has no good af, so i don't consider it too much

fx3o at that price is  high for me, as in euro comes like 2400...

I have wrote to tdimension and asked for warranty, how it works

I think the AF in panasonic S5ii is pretty good, in fact I find it more reliable than it was on Canon R6, and there are some great deals on the S5ii at the moment, I wouldn't discount it because of AF concerns and its video integration is one of the best