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    tweak got a reaction from Zak Forsman in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    It was sarcasm.
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    tweak reacted to jpfilmz in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    I'm still a little bit skeptical and would need to test it myself.  After seeing these test I'm definitely going to rent one and try it out.
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    tweak reacted to mercer in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    I am not here to knock the GH5, as I don't own one and cannot speak first hand about its quality. I may still purchase a GH5 someday. I cannot deny its allure. I have seen some insanely great work from it, yours included. The motorcycle video that Emmanuel posted the other day is also some of the nicest video I've seen from it, but there seemed to be a growing consensus, based on your labor, that the GH5 is better than a 5D3 with ML Raw and I believe they misconstrued the point of your work here. Or maybe I did. Either way, nice job. And food for thought. 
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    tweak got a reaction from hyalinejim in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    MLVFS. Feel like I'm beating a dead horse around here. Works better than GH5 4K 60p files imo. GH5 certainly has some nice features (and I may just get one in the future) but I don't think this thread proves that GH5 = MLRaw, just that you can get a similar colour out of it (you could do the same with any camera if you spent the time).
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    tweak got a reaction from Emanuel in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    Apple phones suck way harder than apple computers... still it's a decent battle none the less. I've always used Apple, I got angry recently with how crap they are going now and thought about switching systems, used Windows again and asked myself what the hell I was thinking. Resolve 14 with MLVFS is great for my uses.
    If you were Donald Trump you wouldn't know how to edit a video so which system you have would be mere semantics. 
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    tweak reacted to webrunner5 in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    True, very true.
    I ONLY have a Apple phone so I can use Facetime with my Kids, Grand Kids, Friends. Other than that they can stick it up, well Cook's ass.
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    tweak reacted to mercer in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    But is that a testament to the GH5 or a deficit of the Ursa... JK.
    I really have to test these MLVFS I've been hearing so much about... if only someone on this site advocated more for them...
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    tweak reacted to mercer in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    Again not trying to be contrary, but I'm not so sure about that either. The 5D3 is a professional stills camera and more than enough, even with its factory firmware, for wedding videos. The Canon badge also still pulls a lot of weight in the industry, I assume. But before I say any more and get castrated here, the GH5 is the best camera ever invented and the only option for any level of filmmaker and all other camera companies should stop making cameras...?
    Anyway, my original point is this... the author disliking Panasonic color and having to create a workaround to make it look like Canon color is more a testament to his abilities than it is a plus for the GH5.
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    tweak got a reaction from mercer in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    MLVFS. Feel like I'm beating a dead horse around here. Works better than GH5 4K 60p files imo. GH5 certainly has some nice features (and I may just get one in the future) but I don't think this thread proves that GH5 = MLRaw, just that you can get a similar colour out of it (you could do the same with any camera if you spent the time).
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    tweak reacted to Shirozina in New BMPCC is Not Happening any time soon!!!   
    The image quality doesn't even come close. GH5 with the promised 10bit 4.2.2 300mbs firmware update -  maybe? 
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    tweak reacted to hyalinejim in Improving GH5 colour - comparison with 5D3 RAW   
    I've been using 5D3 Magic Lantern RAW for a few years now and it's my personal gold standard for image quality as I'm very familiar with it, can predict the results I'll get in various situations and have developed my own look that I like using in post. I do a lot of documentary and corporate stuff and wanted to do more handheld, so I got the GH5 for its IBIS, 10bit V-Log, 4K and general ease of use. Although the GH5's colour is an improvement on its predecessors, the 5D3 is nicer looking to me. So I wanted to see if I could tweak the GH5's VLog colour to be more similar to the colour I get from Magic Lantern Cinelog-C, processed via Adobe Camera Raw (other debayering workflows will give different results).
    I shot a chart with both cameras, extracted the squares and put them side by side in Resolve. V-Log on the left, ML on the right:
     

     
    I used Hue v Hue and Hue v Sat to line up the signal on the vectorscope:
     

     
    Here you can see the effect of this correction.This is accurately white balanced V-Log (default colour) with a curve and saturation added:
     

     
    And here's the same shot with the colour correction applied:
     

     
    Skin goes from green-ish to pink-ish. Reds become more saturated, blues are pulled back. Foliage separates out into varying shades of yellow to green to blue-sh green, rather than being one big block of pure green. So next, I wanted to test this by comparing the same shots to Magic Lantern RAW. Would this correction really turn my GH5 into a handheld and more usable version of my 5D3?
    I stuck the GH5 on top of the 5D3. I shot the 5D3 at 3520 x 1320 (the maximum resolution I can get that's both continuous and at a sensible aspect ratio) - this has a crop factor of 1.63x. ISO was 100, and aperture at f5.6 on the Canon 24-105. The GH5 was 10 bit V-Log, Cinema 4K, ISO 400, aperture f4 (roughly equivalent) on the Leica 12-60. I used shutter speed to control exposure, so motion blur is different between shots. It seems like the GH5 has around 0.66 stops more info in the highlights at the same exposure as the 5D, so I shot it one stop over to maximise DR.
     
     
    First I corrected the 5D shots to the way I wanted them to look. Then I tried to get the GH5 to match. It's not a perfect match by any means, there are individual hues that tend to go awry a little, especially in the first shot. But for me the exercise is a success: the GH5 footage looks more like Canon Magic Lantern than it would straight out of the camera. And I would be happy to intercut the two, or to use the GH5 in situations that are more suited to its features. The take home message is that V-Log has a lot of grading potential - you're not necessarily stuck with Panasonic's colours on this camera.
    A nice surprise for me was how much detail is in the 3.5K 5D files compared to Cinema 4K GH5, especially when sharpened. However, it's not very practical to shoot in its high resolution modes at the moment, due to the slow refresh rate of the LCD preview.
    If you want to check out the files yourself, here are a series of matched pairs of 5D DNGs, and GH5 V-Log TIFFS.
    FOLDER:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1exEpCRAfgFdi1FZ3hma09YZms
    ALL FILES ZIPPED:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwzsbjMgrAwzTFJZby0xSTV6VmM
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    tweak got a reaction from kaylee in No Joke - RAW 4K on the 5D Mark III   
    Yep... people who have never shot it. They probably read a 5year old Cinema 5D (or similar) article about it and haven't given it a go. With MLVFS it's actually eaiser than shooting with GH5 4K 60p files because they edit seamlessly and without any conversion  . But hey people (like me) have only said this over and over again on this forum and other places (MLforum)... people just don't listen.
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    tweak got a reaction from mercer in No Joke - RAW 4K on the 5D Mark III   
    Yep... people who have never shot it. They probably read a 5year old Cinema 5D (or similar) article about it and haven't given it a go. With MLVFS it's actually eaiser than shooting with GH5 4K 60p files because they edit seamlessly and without any conversion  . But hey people (like me) have only said this over and over again on this forum and other places (MLforum)... people just don't listen.
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    tweak reacted to hyalinejim in No Joke - RAW 4K on the 5D Mark III   
    That would be an error in their post pipeline. There's no more banding in a ML DNG than there is in a RAW CR2.
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    tweak got a reaction from zerocool22 in Vid-Atlantic vs Redstan clamps?   
    Vid Atlantic is a pile of crap. Check Rapido, Raf, or rectilux if not Redstan. All 4 offer great solutions.
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    tweak got a reaction from Ian Edward Weir in GH5 crop factor vs GH4 (C-mount lens & native M43 lens)   
    You can use 4K crop mode which ends up almost the same crop as GH4 4K and is still actually 4K (or so a few of my friends have said).
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    tweak reacted to kaylee in No Joke - RAW 4K on the 5D Mark III   
    post stuff!!! ?
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    tweak reacted to Dimitris Stasinos in Sony A6500 or Panasonic GH5...?   
    Exactly. Many expected to see fairytales and elves on OOC 10 bit footage, but the real benefits will come after summer 400 mbps update & will be noticeable only in post. BTW i saw a comparison with A7S ii (since this is a Sony vs Pana thread) where you can already see a benefit, even with 150 mbps on a sky gradient. I am still waiting for a proper comparison between A7S ii & GH5. I consider these 2 as the only viable and future proof options in this specific form factor for independent cinematographers right now.
    Edit. Plus XT-2...(sorry Fuji...)
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    tweak got a reaction from Dimitris Stasinos in Sony A6500 or Panasonic GH5...?   
    I've seen some stuff that looks pretty nice, pretty good for hyper-realistic blogger type shots. I saw a Jon Olsen vid where I thought the colours at least looked way better than anything I got from GH4 (skin wise). However I'm not sure that it's the camera that a lot of people focusing on the "10bit" part expect it to be though. I mean shoot 10bit MLRaw then shoot even 14bit (or even 12bit) and see the difference, it's huge (and that's in a non-compressed Raw type set up so the difference will be even bigger in a compressed h.264 type setup) I just don't think the 10bit part is going to give most what they expect (something like bmpcc or whatever).
    All I can say is; use the right camera for the right job. For quick edits with little fuss (probably most corporate stuff) GH5 should be a fantastic cam for most.
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    tweak reacted to Dimitris Stasinos in Sony A6500 or Panasonic GH5...?   
    I am trying desperately to like gh5. It's specs fits my needs, in some cases they exceed them. I am scanning YT for days, seeings clips from early owners, i graded some downloadable files my self and i think it is time to stop. I have seen great little movies and single shots from cameras like NX1, A6300-500, even RX10 & RX100 but every time i am watching a GH5 clip these days, (i will say it, don't start throwing rocks at me...) ALL i am seeing is crashed blacks, stuttery motion, & ugly sharp edges on dogs, girlfriends & trees. I kinda liked Luke's footage so let's say that this is a little gem that many hobbyists can afford but a few of them can make art with it (and these guys will buy it next month), so you know nothing until you get your hands on it. But this is weird...It was only a month after RX10 ii's release when i saw some clips on YT that blew my mind, and that was a camera aimed at less experienced users. I won't say that in my hands this camera will sing, but cmon....i am the only one that doesn't see anything cinematic in this YT early GH5 garbage cluster? 
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    tweak reacted to deezid in Sony A6500 or Panasonic GH5...?   
    It defintely is. As far as I know Panasonic lowered the sharpening and nr in the GH5, so shooting with a non native lens with sharpening at -5 should be close to almost no sharpening at all. Have to try it out when I switch (if I switch, otherwise: BM Ursa Mini Pro, which doesn't show any nasty processing, which makes the picture thin and digital)
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    tweak got a reaction from Bioskop.Inc in No Joke - RAW 4K on the 5D Mark III   
    I'm in the same boat, bought a new computer so I can edit more, will have to wait till end of year or so. I keep seeing 5Diiis going for great prices back here in AUS and I just hope that this new ML developments don't push the prices up... hopefully I get an even better deal by years end. 5Diii solves a lot of issues for me needing a great photo and video camera to travel with in the one package. I have 7D now and love the Raw so can only image the 5D looks amazing.
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    tweak reacted to Bioskop.Inc in No Joke - RAW 4K on the 5D Mark III   
    Really wish that I had the cash to buy one right now, but need a new computer so.....
    Just going to hold tight & wait for the prices to drop - i'll just have to learn to be green with envy!
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    tweak reacted to Ian Edward Weir in Better then iscorama 36?   
    Unfortunately I have never owned an Iscorama 36. The Bolex is sharper and then the Kowa C35 is sharper then that. Isco with warm flares and Bolex with purple and blue and Kowa has blue and magenta. All are good for different projects. There is no perfect lens, which is why most people have multiple. Cooke?
    Hard to let them go. Your set up looks like it's easy to use and provides a lovely filmic looking image on a digital camera. What else could you want
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    tweak reacted to NewFilmMaker in My GH5 Anamorphic Gimbal Setup   
    You are right, they are similar, but I also need to consider the total weight & length of the lenses set up. I currently don't have any "small enough" 28mm lens.
    Attached are some sample photos 

    The photo above is taken with Olympus OM 28mm F3.5 without conversion lens

    Olympus OM 28mm F3.5 with the conversion lens
     

    Voigtlander Classic 35mm F1.4 

    Voigtlander Classic 35mm F1.4 with conversion lens
     
    Sorry about the quality of the photos, just compare the angle. Also if you are using the IBIS, I believe the 35mm lens is a better choice. Believe me, I did try a lot of different lenses...... I will try my best to upload a testing video asap......
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