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1980s Kodak test image from linked article 🙂

1980s Kodak test image from linked article 🙂

Wow, no love for IBIS today?
I couldn't go back to a non-IBIS camera. I shoot lots of B roll of people who've never been on camera before and will be gone away in a minute, doing things. IBIS means I can shoot handheld and get three different steady shots from different angles while directing the person(s) in the same amount of time it would take me to get one shot on a tripod.
I don't use it as a substitute for a dolly, slider or gimbal. I still remember my horror at the shaky jello of my first handheld shots on the 5D Mk 2!

Canon may be pumping out cameras and lenses at an insane rate and will continue to do so. And Sony even more. And Nikon ups their game next week. And Fuji next year and...on and on and on it goes.
Simple bottom line is what do YOU need and what has anyone else got to offer that your current set up is not offering?
By the sounds of it, you are looking at the cost of an S5 vs the cost the of a C70, albeit switching the roles of your cameras around a bit.
Then let's say you get the C70 and S1H became your B cam, you'd tell yourself it would make more sense to swap the S1H for a Canon R6. And change all your glass.
What do you NEED?
Your needs will be different to mine as they will to the next person and so on, but for this kind of thing, I write a drop down list on the left side of the page in regards to my needs and then simply either put a check mark if I have that need covered or write in the potential options if I have not.
Then I ask myself are the potential options actual quantifiable and justifiable needs, or just wants?
Such as 4k 60p. Do you actually need it or is 1080 more than good enough? IBIS, need it or are you always on a tripod or gimbal because then it'e worthless. Autofocus. Need or not? 10 billion dot viewfinder when you only use the back of the screen? Sony A7Siii I am looking at you.
I don't care what anyone else is doing. My neighbour has a Ferrari. I have a Skoda estate. Good luck sleeping in your Ferrari overnight in the mountains ready for an early morning shoot because I have one of the back seats down, a platform, an air mattress, a 4 season sleeping bag, pillow, plugin coolbox, gas cooker, table, chair... but the Ferrari can do 0-60 in 3.2 seconds which is like 4k raw for an hour or something. Who gives a shit if you don't NEED it.
Actually my neighbour has an SUV but for demonstration purposes 😉

1980s Kodak test image from linked article 🙂

Wow, no love for IBIS today?
I couldn't go back to a non-IBIS camera. I shoot lots of B roll of people who've never been on camera before and will be gone away in a minute, doing things. IBIS means I can shoot handheld and get three different steady shots from different angles while directing the person(s) in the same amount of time it would take me to get one shot on a tripod.
I don't use it as a substitute for a dolly, slider or gimbal. I still remember my horror at the shaky jello of my first handheld shots on the 5D Mk 2!

Wow, no love for IBIS today?
I couldn't go back to a non-IBIS camera. I shoot lots of B roll of people who've never been on camera before and will be gone away in a minute, doing things. IBIS means I can shoot handheld and get three different steady shots from different angles while directing the person(s) in the same amount of time it would take me to get one shot on a tripod.
I don't use it as a substitute for a dolly, slider or gimbal. I still remember my horror at the shaky jello of my first handheld shots on the 5D Mk 2!

IBIS is a godsend if you're filming sports, documentary, etc. When I first started out I used big S-VHS and VHS cameras; stabilization was never an issue because of the weight and the cameras were shoulder cams. As cameras got smaller, stabilization became more and more of an issue for my kind of work. I can't just stand still, I have to constantly be on the move. When you're rushing to make sure you get a good shot of the action, you NEED good IBIS otherwise your shot will look awful. 
If everything you do is on a tripod, gimbal or monopod then that's different, obviously. But if you're doing real run and gun, stripped down handheld video then IBIS is huge. I'd much rather have it than not. 

Wow, no love for IBIS today?
I couldn't go back to a non-IBIS camera. I shoot lots of B roll of people who've never been on camera before and will be gone away in a minute, doing things. IBIS means I can shoot handheld and get three different steady shots from different angles while directing the person(s) in the same amount of time it would take me to get one shot on a tripod.
I don't use it as a substitute for a dolly, slider or gimbal. I still remember my horror at the shaky jello of my first handheld shots on the 5D Mk 2!

Wow, no love for IBIS today?
I couldn't go back to a non-IBIS camera. I shoot lots of B roll of people who've never been on camera before and will be gone away in a minute, doing things. IBIS means I can shoot handheld and get three different steady shots from different angles while directing the person(s) in the same amount of time it would take me to get one shot on a tripod.
I don't use it as a substitute for a dolly, slider or gimbal. I still remember my horror at the shaky jello of my first handheld shots on the 5D Mk 2!

Wow, no love for IBIS today?
I couldn't go back to a non-IBIS camera. I shoot lots of B roll of people who've never been on camera before and will be gone away in a minute, doing things. IBIS means I can shoot handheld and get three different steady shots from different angles while directing the person(s) in the same amount of time it would take me to get one shot on a tripod.
I don't use it as a substitute for a dolly, slider or gimbal. I still remember my horror at the shaky jello of my first handheld shots on the 5D Mk 2!

Yes, density of a negative increases with exposure. It's measured with a densitometer. 
That's where the dense/thick terminology comes from, where it is an observable quantity. 
For digital, it's a qualitative assessment and its meaning might vary from one person to the next.

I've also checked out DXO's portrait colour rating. The last thing you'd want for a nice portrait is accurate colours. Perhaps it's better to call it a colour accuracy rating then (and who knows whether their methodology is sound or not). But accurate colour is not nice colour.
Reality looks kind of shitty, in terms of colour, compared to how its colours can be represented in photographic images.
Colour accuracy should not be the goal, IMO, unless you're reproducing artwork or products. I would like my images to look better than reality, when it comes to colour. 
So I would absolutely not expect the top rated DXO cameras for portraits to make nicer portraits SOOC than those lower on the list. 

Yes, density of a negative increases with exposure. It's measured with a densitometer. 
That's where the dense/thick terminology comes from, where it is an observable quantity. 
For digital, it's a qualitative assessment and its meaning might vary from one person to the next.

Your terminology seems confused: image density refers to how well exposed a (film) image is. A well exposed negative will literally be denser/thicker than an underexposed one, which will be thin.

I think for the forum that the text in each post should be the brightest element as it's the most important.

Ah when phone screen brightness is on medium, it does seem to look too dark. Have tweaked the text so it's brighter. Cheers for the feedback, keep it coming

I think dark mode needs more contrast, at least for mobile devices, as it's v difficult to make things out unless you're in a dark environment.
This is what a Reddit app looks like in dark mode. Everything is legible
 

1. Some people just don't like the obvious artificial limiting/crippling of tech... they'd like real competition and better products
2. Some people actually LIKE the boomer-protectionism of the 1980's technology markets. I.e. hacks can just say "I own X or Y expensive camera! You HAVE to hire me now!"
3. Some people like to pretend that there is something "Magical" about $5000 or $15000 cameras that will give them better results over something like a Blackmagic P4K or capable DSLR. There isn't. 

In regards to Raw vs Log formats, while its nice to have a the ability to change color temp and ISO in RedRaw, etc.  The Kodak Cineon system, a 10 bit RGB 4:4:4 Log format was the gold standard for over 20 years when scanning film for digital processing in VFX and later for Digital Intermediates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cineon
Every post house on the planet worth its salt should be comfortable delivering professional results using a 10 bit log "digital negative".  It wasn't until the rise of HD video acquisition over the last 10 years that raw became a thing.  And the early reaction to Red's raw format was mostly met with derision due to its lossy (gasp!) compression format.  Attitudes have definitely changed as people got used to the new formats.
I think the big step up in the video/DSLR space was when we went from 8-bit video recording to a 10-bit log format like the GH5 offered.  The 8-bit log formats from Technicolor's Cinestyle, to C-Log, S-log, V-log are just too prone to banding and color artifacts when pushed heavily.  The ability to shoot raw is nice, but 10 bit log is a totally viable format for any post house to work with and deliver great results.

I've recently "discovered" some of the benefits of using the in-camera digital zoom.  These won't apply to everyone, but it's worth considering and I don't hear a anyone talking about it.
Let me illustrate by taking my GH5 as an example, but the principle applies much wider, especially as cameras go towards 8K and beyond.
The GH5 has a sensor that's 5184 pixels wide.  When you're shooting 4K, the camera downsamples the 5.2K to 4K, giving a higher quality image due to the benefits of oversampling.  The benefits of oversampling are well known, and many cameras have this.
The GH5 also has an ETC mode, which essentially does a 1:1 crop into the middle of the sensor.  This is a common feature across manufacturers.
If you use the ETC function in 4K, you get an additional 1.3x crop, and if you use the function in 1080p then you get a 2.7x crop.  
Both of these modes are shooting a 1:1, so you get a tighter FOV, but the image is no longer oversampled, so the quality goes down.
Enter the digital zoom.
In 1080p mode, the GH5 allows a 2x and 4x digital zoom.  The 2x digital zoom is less than the 2.7x 1:1 zoom from the ETC mode, so (assuming that the cameras image pipeline is designed well) the resulting 1080p image should be an image that is taken from the middle 2.6K pixels and downsampled to 1080p.
In other words, the 2x digital zoom is a way to punch-into the sensor but still keep the quality of an oversampled image.
This principle will occur any time that the digital crop is less than the crop of going to a 1:1 area on the sensor for whatever resolution you're shooting in.
The Sony ClearImage Zoom comes to mind here, where (I think?) you can zoom in by a lesser amount than the 4K 1:1 crop (which is something like 1.5x?).  Perhaps other manufacturers have similar functionality too.
Of course, the lower the resolution you're shooting then the more likely this will be available on your camera.  For those still shooting 1080p then this is worth looking at.
For those shooting 4K, this will increasingly be useful as sensors creep up towards 8K and beyond.
For me though, I've now abandoned the idea of having to buy an 85mm prime, because I can simply do a 2x digital zoom with my 42.5mm lens and get the same FOV and (basically) the same image quality, and if I happen to have my 7.5mm lens on and want to quickly grab a 15mm FOV shot then I know I won't be sacrificing quality to get one.
Had I known that this feature delivered such good results I may have actually bought different lenses, so it's not a trivial thing, and it's worth giving a quick go if your camera supports it.

Keep us posted! ML needs interpreters for us plebs as it's a bit esoteric 😂

I used to have a 55mm Canon FD f1.2 on a speed booster for my M43 cams... I mean, that's kinda in the ball park.  On M43 that would render DOF shallowness like a f1.8 on FF.  So that narrow focal plane capability was there if I wanted it.
(turns out I really didn't that much)
Also had the Voight 42.5mm f.095.  Which is a 85mm f1.9 FF equivalent on M43.  All decent lens stuff and kinda neat to own.  
And I'll be honest, having the extra bit of "oomph" that FF gives is nice sometimes, not going to deny it.  (I mean, I still have a 5D)  But, in my world it's not worth the trade off of exceptional IBIS and some really crazy compact gear...and the shooting flexibility that offers.  
That small gear flexibility is often overlooked by a lot of videographers, I think.  I love going on shoots with modest stuff;  a single small satchel camera bag and a tiny camera --then knocking out ridiculous handheld shots that look like they rolled off a jib or camera dolly tracks.  I'll take that capability as long as it's available.
Other people like piling on a bunch of outboard stuff so much that even a modest DSLR ends up looking like some Panavision rig on a major studio movie production set.  That's fine if that's what you want, just not my tempo.

Keep us posted! ML needs interpreters for us plebs as it's a bit esoteric 😂