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The quality for internal mics is very good.
I wouldn't expect anything better than that, I am sure Panasonic engineers spends some time thinking about mic selection and placement on their camera, but there are a few limitations of what the internal mics of a camera can do, and that is not going to change any time soon.
NZ is cool!

I have tested the hot shoe xlr adapter with sennheisser mic and it is really great performance.
Good quality  sound direct to the camera.

I know it has been said 100 times on here, and by me. IF you Don't need 4k I don't see how you can not look hard at a Sony PMW F3. It is just a beautiful camera output and controls wise. And they are giving them away!  I just don't see how a person can do much better than Maybe a used Canon C300. I see those 2 cameras maybe not as good as it can get, but about as good as you need cameras for 1080p.
I mean how many of us Really need to output in 4k? 4k is far from some minimum requirement. Sure down sampling from 4k to 1080p is a good thing. But the Canon C300 is already doing that in camera, and the F3 is well, it is a F3, about as good as it gets.
It is worth looking into I think. I know you are not a big Sony, Canon lover but hell reality is these 2 cameras have shot a shit pot full of stuff that have made people, hell some, millions of Dollars. Are they wrong, ehh I don't think so. These are two bargain basement Cine cameras with a proven record.

@noone that is no true. Samsung has the option to go X1.2, X1.4, X1.7 and X2 years and years ago. I usually put this on the Fn button on the lens (settings put on that button, you can cycle through a lot, are changed by the turn of the focus ring), so I can change the setting without taking my eye from the viewfinder. Admittedly, have no clue how good, or bad, this works, but for amateur photos I do (photography is just a hobby for me), and with the 28megapixles APS-C BSI sensor, it's ok.
@EthanAlexander JVC LS300, has REAL Variable zoom, that one can control with the zoom rocker!

Sorry...typing mistake, I meant "but as my 12-60 already gets me so wide"...I would recommend that if possible you try the Leica 12-60 at a shop...you will be surprised at how wide 12 on the GH5 is. If you're looking to get ultra wide in a truly economical way, I've linked the SLRMagic 8mm below...at f4 but only $176 and no adapter needed....and it's tiny. You also don't need a Speedbooster....the mount is m4/3 already.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1322738-REG/slr_magic_slr8m4_8mm_f_4_lens.html

according to "canon rumors"
Canon is sending out “very elaborate” invites to select dealers and VIPs for a mirrorless camera announcement next month.
The invitation was described as being very high end, printed on heavy glossy paper and showing a silhouette of a camera shaped like the EOS M6 with a hole cut out (similar diameter to a dildo)

Whenever Arri finally finally announces their new sensor then that will shave off a couple more grand from the secondhand price of the Classic in hurry.

Actually I think it was just a case of them being premature in announcing it? Or there being some kind of lag in getting listed by Apple.

All Nikon FX cameras that I know of have also have a DX mode as well, which works for stills and video recording. 

Very different to Canon's approach which is to actively discourage you from using EF-S lens!!

I didn't want to start another thread for just to post a link, so I add this here.
http://bokehmarket.com/blog/samsung-nx1-best-budget-4k-hybrid-camera-2018-video-stills
Some mistakes there, of course the 16-50 is 2-2.8f, and not 2.8f, and the 45mm is 1.8f not 2f.
Also, the NX certainly has no IBIS, but with some lenses, the Dual IS is quite spectacular (had that covered since 2015 too).
 

That is an incredible price. This is a jacket-pocket size camera that I use as a B or C cam for live recordings (2-3 hours shows) and does NEVER overheats, even in the warmest summer days of southern Europe.
A great and very powerful mini camera.
Fact: when it was out, heavily criticized by the special press about the fact it couldn't do full readout on 4K. Several Nikon dSLRs later, and bigger and multiple times more expensive cameras that over heat, or do not 4K at all. NX500 looks better than ever. And dead gorgeous too.

I just bought a NX500 to complete the NX1. For fun, for work (easy to take with you), for my wife at holidays. Body just € 225,- I will add my 16-50pz to it... can you imagine, this quality for that price!
 

Remember the Phantom 4 Pro has a 1" sensor, which is much bigger than any Phantom has ever had before. 
 

I am assuming Kinefinity just doesn't care about IP laws for the E mount:

http://www.kinefinity.com/shop/k2e/?lang=en

The Tokina 11-16 gets you down to 7.4 mm at the wide end with a Nikon to M4/3 XL Speedbooster for around  399....the Speedbooster is of course extra, but considering crop factor and in the case of the XL adding 11/3 stops of extra speed to every lens you own in that mount, it is an incredible bargain....7.4 mm at f1.8 is Sigma speed!...I briefly considered the 8-18 Leica, bit as my 12-60 already gets me so wide, and as movement along the edges of the frame  gets weird when you pan on a lens  below 10 mm wide, I opted for saving the $1,100...the combination works really well for that rare occasion anyone would go that wide!

I kinda like that this forum just mostly has a "main forum", as I've seen too many other forums decline if they try to split off into too many minor subforums to try and cater to every possible niche. 

Exactly. 

Sub forums only make sense once you get to a very high traffic volume. (such as say dvxuser had, but then they made waaaaaay too many sub forums, which is now killing it. So even if a website does have the traffic volume to support sub forums, the extra sub forums should still be added in at a sensible pace which matches the rate of the growth of the overall forum size. )

This thread is fascinating. Partly because of the actual issue (although, bizarrely, we do seem to be flying an Inspire 2 in a bedroom at the moment...) but more so because it illustrates the balance between creativity and technology. Kaylee obviously has her ideas and, these being fixed, is addressing the technical question - how do I implement them? A more general question -  is it good to stick precisely to the creative idea and force a solution rather than to modify the idea to better suit an easier technical method? (Eg my solution was to use stills and zoom in post - requiring static shots).  When do we need to compromise our imagination? From a pragmatic perspective, should we be prepared to amend the idea simply in order to actually get it done?  There is a difference between asking the question: “how might ONE do this?” and “how do I do this?” (because I have limited resources whereas the former makes no such restriction).
To some extent (and in no way am I suggesting this applies to Kaylee) the existence of fancy technical solutions might even be restricting our creativity - no longer are we forced to think how best to achieve what we want within certain cost/time/resource parameters. 
“IF I had this, I could achieve that” is no substitute for “I can achieve this with that”.
Tim

Do think tech is discussed from an experience standpoint. How to shoot more efficiently, how to overcome certain problems we might be facing. It's only just partly gear nerding for the sake of it. And of course, otherwise, the community regulates/dictates what it wants to see. If that's mainly tech related... that's just what you get, but of course anyone is welcome to shape it the way they want and add their own twist.

I am assuming Kinefinity just doesn't care about IP laws for the E mount:

http://www.kinefinity.com/shop/k2e/?lang=en

The render shows also a mic input, if so this would be the PERFECT camera for vlogging for me!

I've been wanting an ultra compact camera, with a 1" sensor and flip up screen which also most importantly.... has a mic input!!

Nope, it didn't go past me! I knew about it even before it was officially announced. 

But it is just very uninteresting and unappealing. Thus I didn't talk about it. 
 
I don't think I want to add up the money I spent last year on sound gear so I can calculate the ratio.....   as the total would be scary!

But I can safely say the ratio would be high indeed!
Because on the camera side of the equation: I purchased the Z Cam E1, think I might have got a couple of lenses or so, oh and the Samsung Gear 360VR camera. Plus a few bits and bobs like a variable ND filter and a VCT plate/rails. However that is pretty much all I did for the year when it comes to camera gear! But sound gear? Oh boy, a lot....
 
I don't *only* post to EOSHD ;-) 
 
Yeah, but there is no shortage of options for small portable handheld recorders like that. (I for instance own a Zoom H1 original and the Tascam DR22WL)

And this new model is no great leap forward over the original H1
 

Not really, good wireless is expensive!

Be that wireless audio, or wireless video, or wireless focus pulling, or wireless whatever!

Nope, it didn't go past me! I knew about it even before it was officially announced. 

But it is just very uninteresting and unappealing. Thus I didn't talk about it. 
 
I don't think I want to add up the money I spent last year on sound gear so I can calculate the ratio.....   as the total would be scary!

But I can safely say the ratio would be high indeed!
Because on the camera side of the equation: I purchased the Z Cam E1, think I might have got a couple of lenses or so, oh and the Samsung Gear 360VR camera. Plus a few bits and bobs like a variable ND filter and a VCT plate/rails. However that is pretty much all I did for the year when it comes to camera gear! But sound gear? Oh boy, a lot....
 
I don't *only* post to EOSHD ;-) 
 
Yeah, but there is no shortage of options for small portable handheld recorders like that. (I for instance own a Zoom H1 original and the Tascam DR22WL)

And this new model is no great leap forward over the original H1
 

In film school we were told that sound and sight are 50-50. Just count your image spending money, and then the sound. What is the percentage? 99,8 to 0,2?

I guess the new alexa's will also come down in size a lot. Probably the size of a ursa mini pro. Which makes grip life much better. And yeah the image will blow away the current alexa image probably. But I am happy with the current Alexa look :), so for me it would not be a deal breaker. Its still better a better look then any RED for me. But I do not have the money for the supporting grip atm. 

Not really, good wireless is expensive!

Be that wireless audio, or wireless video, or wireless focus pulling, or wireless whatever!