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And $2,000 either which way means nothing at all when you're earning $50K/yr or more from that camera. If you're a full time filmmaker with a few years of professional experience under your belt, it is hard to understand why a GH5 would be your A Cam. Unless you're diversified across a few areas such as director/editor/writer/photography, then of course you don't want to be over invested in gear! And a GH5 or even a G85 is perfect for you.

It is because BMD is trying now to compete directly head on with the almost "high end" (or at least he solid mid range). Which isn't something BMD was exactly doing with the BMCC / BMPCC / BMPC4K beforehand, when it was much more targeted at the low end. But with the URSA Mini Pro we're seeing people choose that over a FS7 / F5 / C300mk2 / RED / etc... which is quite impressive. The only people who don't like TC are those who have never used it (or at least never used it done right). I have progressively converting more and more people to the benefits of using TC on shoots as I work with them, when before they'd never experienced it before working with me.

Back when I purchased a Sony PMW-F3 (two years ago? Over two years ago?) I was surprised at how very high C300 mk1 prices were in comparison. At that point in time C300 mk1 was still relevant, but right near the end of their product cycle as the FS7 mk1 had just recently arrived on the scene. The FS7 mk1 is probably still another year (or three?) from arriving at that same point in its product cycle as the C300 mk1 was back then. And then of course it will be another year or five (?! Possibly longer, as I reckon 10bit 4K will stay relevant for a fairly long time) after then before the FS7 mk1 will drop down to prices that we say the C300 mk1 go for right now in late 2017 (and while I think the C300 mk1 is now finally a reasonably ok ish buy to consider, it still feels too overpriced for me).

Shut down of production can have both an upward and downwards impact on price: Upwards: because the fanatics of the system snap up the remaining stock so they've got back ups for their gear. Downwards: because the mainstream buyers lose interest, as there is no future in the system. A hack should generally speaking have an upwards impact on price, as it improves the value of the system. But to what degree this pricing impact has, and for how long, that is of course debatable. So you have these three key influences pushing around the prices of NX1 bodies. But is this overall up or down, or no real change? Tricky to say without further stats. Glad you find my suggestion useful (I am inherently a numbers nerd! Pre filmmaking my background is math/stats/compsci/physics). I think what you're already doing is really great!! :-) And yeah, as most of us in this thread about how getting "best value" for our filmmaking, I hope/expect most of us have enough self control to take a look over a longer time span than "right now". Although of course exactly how long that time span is, we all vary on that! (I'm happily wait over a year for the right bargain to pop up on eBay, or longer!) Fingers crossed they tank! ;-) As I wouldn't mind buying a GH5 in 2018. But honestly I strongly doubt I will. As I feel the G6/G7/G85 are much stronger value propositions. For two key reasons: 1) They start out at a lower price 2) They are underappreciated vs the flagship GH series cameras which get all the attention, thus the G series "flies under the radar" and has lower secondhand prices than the GH series which keep a relatively higher price due to the greater historical interest in the GH series. So in 2018 I might buy a G7 or G85. (but will try to not buy one! Ha. As do I really really need any more cameras? Hmmmm)

The audio made me cry :-(

I can feel the G.A.S. is strong with you! ;-)

Possibly the MSRP is way way waaaay overstated beyond its true market value. As often enough that happens (though not usually by 7x).

Plus you could get a non-Metabones focal reducer which is 0.71x, such as the RJ Lens Turbo which is dirt dirt cheap. Is what I use myself with my MFT cameras. This is one of the benefits of the Nikon lens system, their plain adapters are a tiny fraction of the cost of a Canon adapter. Yeah, and if you're going to buy the GH4 for the benefits its has (such as anamorphic or 10bit external) then you likely are not on a budget for a G85 anyway! And you should just buy a GH5 instead. So in short: a G85 beats a GH4 in every way* (Exceptions: being in a few ways that are usually not relevant to a G85 buyer anyway, and if they matter to you... you should buy a GH5 instead! For instance who'd buy a GH4 for the 10bit external today?! For the cost of a GH4 + 4K recorder, you could just buy a GH5!!))

For a camera with 4K raw plus many more features, that price doesn't seem so bad. I'll admit on rare occasion I look at their prices and get tempted myself...

This. You need to cover the reshoot costs out of your own pocket. Consider it an expensive lesson learned! ha Otherwise, do some aggressive crops + extra B roll, and fake it together somehow in the edit! :-o

I've seen it mentioned too, ages ago, in the ML forums by one of the developers as the reason why. It is all relative, if you're used to an Arri Alexa or RED ONE or such, then a C200 is very lightweight indeed! Heck, even compared to say the "lightweight" Sony F5/F55 then a C200 will feel just fine. As it is pretty small, basically the same weight as a C300. (which I do have experience with) And yeah, if you're coming from DSLRs then you'll find a C300 (or C200) possibly "too big" and would prefer something just a little bit smaller (such as say a C100, I really think the difference in size between a C300 and C100 can make a big difference in shooting with it stripped down for long periods run and gun. But pity about the C100's poor specs! However you'd likely find the Panasonic EVA1 just perfect! Very small size + great specs). Do you really think Canon are likely to OFFICIALLY say this? Nah, that strikes me as very unlikely, as the backlash would be immense! And they'd gain nothing at all from that (vs achieving the same ends by communicating it discretely via back channels)

Haha! I selected more than just that! Also wish for an EVA1 and a complete lighting kit. I'm one of three votes for it now! :-D I'm a poor man who is struggling by with his Sigma 50-150mm instead :-( (as the 50-100mm had not even came out when I made my purchase) And now I've decided to focus on audio instead, I doubt I'll be in a hurry to upgrade any time soon.

I'd say it is because it is still a current "hot" camera, in high demand. Would suspect the same could be said about the C300 mk1 at this point in its life cycle as well (but now its prices have dropped rather low indeed). I expect (or just hope? ha!) that once the next hot new thing comes along to replace the FS7, then we'll see some significant price drops on the FS7. So why is the Canon 1D X mk2 included?!?! As it is first and foremost most widely seen as a high end stills camera by the vast majority of people. Also: 3) you don't need to rely upon only Buy It Now listings, but can include all kinds. 4) one rogue outlier won't have a significant impact upon your results.

I strongly suspect that cameras which are also very popular for photography will lose value at a slower rate. Because stills development has been on a bit of a plateau for a few years now, thus the usefulness of secondhand stills cameras is dropping slower as new ones come out. I suggestion for the future, if you are to ever redo this: Go to "completed listings" on eBay, sort by price, and use a value midway between the two extremes (using the exact middle, the median, would be a reasonable and simple approach to take. But up to you where you choose, I'm more of a bargain hunter so I might select bottom 25th percentile instead as the figure to use) Reasons why: 1) uses a little broader period of time than just right now 2) prices cameras have actually sold for is going to be more accurate than prices sellers hope to get

Yup! Thanks to the preamps being so clean.

Just look at this pic from its IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5664676/ Although, from this BTS video: It appears other cameras are used too. As I spot a RED.

haha. But at least you can't blame me for buying a MixPre6! ;-)

Levels too high?

Waaaay too high! Try less than 10% of that figure for Nikon G adapters.

A Canon C200 is surprisingly small/lightweight, try instead shooting with a RED ONE! :-P ha

The only thing any free market needs protection from is government itself. The entire definition of a free market is that it is free of government interference.

No. That is just not true. (Only true to an extremely limited sense, but you need a certain reasonable threshold of acceptable material to work with first. And saying "clean recording" is kinda redundant, when referring then to cleaning it) Would you say it doesn't matter what lens is used or where the camera is pointed?! As you can always "fix it in post". Or would you call a person out for saying that? As it is unacceptable misinformation to be spreading (not without some serious level qualifiers attached to it).

Was your internet turned off pre 2015?!

On 43rumors it said TC in/out Yeah that is not proper TC I/O, that would be something proprietary.

The 7D was Canon's take on the D300, or in other words an APS-C DSLR aimed at the upper semi pro / pro photographers with a high frame rate.