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Different league. Is like a 600D vs a C300 There are not only the better pre amps (and with the F8n, better limiters as well, hopefully on par with a 10T), but the timecode, extra outputs, accessories (tablet/phone/control surface), and metadata control lifts the F8n (and F8/F4) up into another league beyond all the consumer grade recorders like the DR70D etc.

Zoom F8 original is US$629, lowest price I've ever seen it go new: https://www.adorama.com/zozf8.html Clearing out stock before the new F8n arrives!

If it can, that is news to me. If you want 6x 48V phantom powered inputs then it is your only option at that price point, other than getting very lucky on a secondhand F8. (which who knows, maaaaaaybe night happen once the F8n ships?) When a Behringer U-PHORIA UM2 2x2 USB Audio Interface costs less than thirty bucks, and Behringer U-PHORIA UMC22 2x2 USB Audio Interface (which has MIDAS designed pre amps) is ten bucks more (and even cheaper secondhand), then I think having a USB interface or not shouldn't be a deal breaker.

Can you buy a 633/688 in your country at all? Could be there is no Sound Devices dealer in the whole country (the few people who need it would just be sourcing it overseas, which when you are in europe almost already that is not too hard at all), which is why the MixPre10T is not being brought in. As for the F8n, well there is nowhere in the whole galaxy that it is being sold yet! Patience. :-)

Weird, seems half pointless to me. You want safeties of the ISOs, not the mix!

His entire channel is great! I also highly recommend Luke Seerveld:

Have you seen the trailer? Is bad, it LOOKS LIKE it is was shot on a cellphone. No surprises there. However, due to the nature of the story the cellphone style kinda sort of works for the film in a way. Not such a bad choice selecting a cellphone for it as this might have been for some other styles of films. (like if you tried doing a traditional Western or a Victoria period piece in London, then it would be much tougher to make a smartphone work for that type of film)

Unless the schematics of the H1n specifically shows a different path for line in, then most likely it it just attenuating the signal down before the mic pre amp (which is how low budget recorders usually do it).

Personally I'd much rather have nice orderly files ("S7" is my own shorthand for "Scene 7") like this (one per take) at the end of each day's recording than the mess Zoom's handheld recorders would create, it will make life a lot easier for post dealing with these files than something from an H6/H5/H4n:

175 euros is a minuscule leap forward for what the F4 is giving you extra, as only 3yrs ago prior to the F8/F4 you'd have to have spent not hundreds but thousands more pounds to get the same leap forward in features and performance. Holland is part of the EU, so couldn't you buy from say Germany or elsewhere in the EU without excessive import charges?! Not me personally, haven't used it, just I've been following it carefully since it was announced. At a guess I think the DR70D might have a small edge in performance, but the Marantz PMD-706 wins in terms of having six powered phantom inputs (something which doesn't exist under the F8) and wins for being the most "baggable" six channel recorder that is priced under the F4. Aye?!?! What does a safety track of the L/R mix?! And yes, the EXH-6 doesn't supply phantom power, if that is what you're saying? Watch the videos of the Marantz, you'll see how they talk about supplying XLR to 1/4 cables with the purchase of the recorder. Thus you're getting a "six" XLR recorder with phantom power (but with 1/4 used to saved space, because it is so small).

I feel it would need to get to be £200 cheaper before we can start talking about it being an attractive alternative to the Zoom F4. No it doesn't rule out the F4. As I've used my F4 as a USB interface before. So I think I'd know ? Beside, he just wants a single channel one, and those are easy enough to pick up for even less than fifty bucks. So I wouldn't rate it is a critical feature the field recorder must have. Exactly.

E X A C T L Y ....the same as the F4!

No you don't, you have only four dials on the H6. You get the extra two dials on the EXH-6, which is exactly the same way it works with the F4. I'd rather use BWAV and have a single file per take (which you have the option of choosing instead with the F4/F8/F8n). And creating an entire new folder for each take seems a bit ugly indeed. Plus the H6 has absolutely none of the degrees of customization the F series has for naming files/tracks/notes/etc, which is very powerful for projects and especially for long running ones.

Lose what? They're both six channel recorders. Separate tracks? Yes. Separate files? No. Even worse, you have almost no control over the naming structure. And no other control over metadata either. That seems overpriced. I'm not even a local, and I found a Zoom F4 in the UK for £455.98 in just seconds: https://www.musicstore.de/en_GB/GBP/Zoom-F4-4-Spur-Field-Recorder/art-REC0012751-000V000071204 Also, another option to consider is a secondhand Zoom F8, especially if you can wait a couple of months then I bet we'll see plenty more secondhand ones for sale from people who got the itch to buy a new F8n. If you want to go dirt cheap instead, another option to consider is the Marantz PMD-706 for under £250: https://www.musicstore.de/en_GB/GBP/Marantz-PMD-706-Multi-Track-Recorder/art-REC0013499-000V000074440 Marantz PMD-706 has safety track recording which the Zoom H6 doesn't have, and can give phantom power to all 6 inputs which also the H6 can't do.

The Zoom F4 is only marginally more expensive (a hundred bucks more) than the H6 and is a much much much better field recorder. And of course the F8n just got announced, and if you can splurge to buy that then it is a total no brainer choice. The DR701D costs more than the Zoom F4, and I can't understand at all why a person would want the DR701D (unless you really really want that HDMI input). I feel a case can be made for the DR70D if you're on an ultra tight budget, but not the DR701D. I feel similar about the Marantz PMD-706 as I do about the DR70D, kinda appealing for its price point, but when you look at the wider context of the F4 only being a teeny bit more than it makes no sense at all. That is what nightmares are made out of, compared to the ease and depth of control you get with the Zoom F4/F8/F8n (or really any semi-pro/pro field recorder out there). Worth checking out this for the F8n (well, kinda for the F4 as well, but only functions with the first four of the six channels of the F4, which I found out to my annoyance when I purchased the FRC-8 myself. But never mind, am getting the F8n very soon!): https://www.adorama.com/zozfrc8.html

What are those two block boxes to the right of the RodeLink receiver?

People use the term "line" very casually, rather than keeping to the strict technical definition. Oh true, but it probably is not skipping the mic pre amp at all is my guess.

It is not line level. It is mic level No. Yes

I'm certainly not using my cellphone for "real" filmmaking, but I use most of the time for my youtube vlog channel, because I'm lazy and it "is there" always at all times.

If the D5500 is so very bad then turn up the RX output and turn down the D5500

Wow, I just found out that the Zoom F8 made up TWENTY FIVE PERCENT of Zoom's sales! :-o Good grief, no wonder they followed it up with an F4 and now a F8n! That must be a tonne of F8 recorders that they sold over the years. Zillions of them.

Sweet news for "F8 original" owners, the F8n app will work with the F8 as well! (hopefully this mean app bug fixes, as it has been a long time since the iOS app had an updated! Plus general usability improvements) "The F8 will be compatible with the F8n app which will include some updates!" Follow the link for the original source info from Zoom themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtIfSGcm4fk&lc=z22div4yopvwvlyoc04t1aokg4stwhpuyygordywqnhdbk0h00410.1528212173721520

Wish they'd gone for a shorter zoom range and faster F stop like the earlier models. And STILL no mic input. Sigh. The RX100 line up would be so perfect as a vlog machine if only it had a mic input to go with a flip up screen

In response to people complaining that their original F8 doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the F8n and asking if their F8 will get updated to this as well (it might? But I wouldn't hold your breath), I wrote up this somewhat lengthy response: he F8 original has had three years of excellent support from Zoom in updating it. I think that is perfectly reasonable, better than that even! Plus there is the possibility the F8n has a more powerful processor in it than the F8?? So maybe the F8 is not even physically capable of this? Currently the F8 is at v4.10, that is a *lot* of updates! Here a few of the highlights: v2.0: https://www.learnlightandsound.com/blog/2015/12/27/zoom-f8-audio-recorder-firmware-v2-0 Sound reports Trim knobs can be used as faders False take folder Scene number advancement Change previously recorded track names Show track names on level meter screen PFL solos tracks during playback Shortcuts Those are some big BIG UPDATES there! And that isn't even all of it from the v2.0 firmware update. v3.0: https://www.zoom-na.com/news/f8-firmware-update-v300 Monitoring input signals of specific tracks without recording Backing up / loading saved settings. Adding a TONNE of extra functionality to be used with the new FRC-8 and a keyboard. Again, another big BIG update. v4.0: Extensive ambisonics support!!!! wow https://www.zoom-na.com/news/firmware-update-zoom-f8-firmware-40-recording-360-degree-audio Another big big update. And this is not even counting the many smaller updates between the big updates, which further improved the F8 during its lifetime. I feel buyers of the F8 when it came out have been served very very well by Zoom, and I can only hope I get a similar series of updates during the lifetime of the Zoom F8n! :-o I wonder what the future holds for the F8n?