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On 9/20/2023 at 4:44 AM, ac6000cw said:
IIRC, around the time of the GH6 release (18 months ago), there was live stream/press discussion with some senior Panasonic people, where one of them basically said that including PDAF hardware on the sensor would have delayed the sensor development too much (for the GH6 timescale).
So my take on it is the sensor in the G9ii is effectively the 'fully developed' version of it, and the GH6 has an intermediate version without the PDAF hardware capability. I think it would have been commercially crazy to not launch the GH6 with PDAF if they could have - they'd have sold more in the intervening months at higher street prices.
We'll have to wait and see, but I think there just has to be a GH6ii or GH7 soon.
I agree, the release of the G9mk2 with PDAF hints at the fact that there will be either a GH6mk2 (basically identical to the GH6, but with PDAF) or a GH7! (maybe even both)
If it is a GH6mk2 then it will be "soon" (maybe this year?? At least, "within a year" for sure), if it is a GH7 then it will probably be a bit further away when it happens.
Hopefully it will be both? Like what happened with the GH5mk2 / GH6
My hope is they'll surprise us with the GH6mk2 (that adds PDAF, but otherwise makes zero changes to the GH6mk1) and at the same time as they release the GH6mk2 they say that the GH7 is "in development" together with some ground breaking features. (mini SDI, mini XLR, six channel recording, and eNDs pretty please! We could easily fit all this into a S1H sized body for the GH7)
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18 hours ago, MrSMW said:
Plus, both Meike and Megadap do e-z Mount adapters
How reliable are these adapters though? How is autofocus and optical stabilization?
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Wish someone would bring out a 12mm to 120mm powered zoom MFT lens with that 10x zoom range (16x would be even better!) so as to make MFT that much better for such applications. As otherwise, the only reasonable way to do this is with adapted B4 lenses (where 16x lenses are quite common place).
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Video frame rates and resolutions up to 4K UHD 30 oversampled from 6K,9 as well as 4KUHD 60P (DX-mode) and 1080/120P with recording times up to 125 minutes.10
The first Nikon camera to feature video recording in shutter-priority auto mode, letting the user select the shutter speed, while the camera adjusts the aperture and ISO.
In-camera, 10-bit H.265 recording, allowing users to record full-scale video directly to the camera without the need for an external recorder.
Very glad that unlike the Nikon DF this one has video!!
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On 9/17/2023 at 8:29 PM, Yannick Willox said:
Sennheiser promised this mic over 15 years ago when the 8000 series was released, to replace the MKH30.
It's been a loooong wait for sure!
Not what I'll get through, my next Sennheiser purchase will be another MKH50 (either next year, or the year after. No rush here).
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4 hours ago, mercer said:
give us a tiny S16 sensor,
This new L Mount camera can shoot 2K S16
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The MKH 8030 will become available during Q2 of 2024, and pre-orders will be accepted from the start of the show. Pricing: EUR 1,499 (MSRP) / USD 1,499 (MAP). Included will include an MZW 8030 foam windshield, an MZQ 8000 mic clamp and two Rycote back-to-back clips to create mic pairs.
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5 hours ago, kye said:
Do people say "P6K" when they mean the Pro version? I haven't seen it, but maybe it's something I've missed.
But yes, confusion!
I try to always say explicitly "P6K Pro" if I mean that.
But yes, people might casually say "Pocket 6K" when meaning their P6K Pro.
Or heck, they might even say their "Blackmagic Pocket Camera" and you're left confused if they mean the original Pocket 1080 camera? (some people don't even realize that exists!!) Or the P4K MFT?? Or one of the 6K versions? Who knows!
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10 hours ago, newfoundmass said:
I don't think anyone is arguing that it isn't a very good camera, I think people just feel like the system is moving away from what it's potential is/could be.
It's a radically different time than 2017 and the years before spent developing a the GH5. You could overlook the larger size, compared to previous M43 bodies, because it was so much more advanced than anything else out there. 4K 60, 10-bit, IBIS, etc. were all groundbreaking features for the mirrorless market.
Now though, releasing a camera that is the size of a full frame camera but with a smaller sensor and features that are not significantly better than what is already out there is a harder sell.
Like I said in a previous post, Panasonic probably has the marketing information to back up their decision making, and I absolutely understand that in many ways they are in a no win situation, but I just don't think they are able to compete when it comes to specs, at least not in a significant way. But size and affordability? Those are two things they absolutely could embrace and win some people over. An updated GH5 in a small, compact body at a very competitive price is a more compelling option for a lot of us vs. something like this. But again, it just might not be a feasible thing for them to do.
Or even just simply an old GH4 sensor/specs that is released in a compact Panasonic G3/G5/G6 sized body but with some modern updates: PDAF, IBIS, cellphone app, full size HDMI, compatibility with the newer DMW-XLR1 as the old YAGH was a disaster (greedy me would want the TC from the GH5S as well).
If you can price this at sub $1K (greedy me would want sub $500) then I reckon you could still find lots of buyers.
As plenty of us were perfectly happy with the image quality from the old GH4/G7/G6/GH3/etc, but just want the modern newer features of PDAF/IBIS/apps/HDMI/audio/TC/etc (ideally all of them, but at least half of them would be nice) while keeping the smaller size and smaller prices we had in the past with the Panasonic MFT cameras.
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2 hours ago, kye said:
Of course, the real issue is the acronyms! P6K could be referring to the old S35 6K model or the new FF model, or the new S35 G2 model where the person dropped the G2 part for brevity!
Oh the confusion!!
You forgot the P6K Pro version...
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15 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:
The consensus seems to be that its a new camera so still a few hours left to speculate wildly.
My wild speculation is that it will be a groundbreaking stereo 360VR camera using 16K braw files, with built in 3rd order ambisonics audio (in 32bit of course)
7 minutes ago, sanveer said:IMHO, if Blackmagic gets PDAF and IBIS (and,better ergonomics, better battery and ease of use)
Come on man, be realistic! That's totally unreasonably wild speculations, that BMD would never do.
You should stick with more serious speculations that are actually possible in this world we live in, such as the perfectly possible camera I just suggested BMD might release.
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On 9/13/2023 at 12:35 PM, sanveer said:
Wish there were Anamorphic Lenses with autofocus 😁
Are there any for M Mount? (I don't think so?)
If so, you could then use the Techart autofocus adapter.
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Hopefully it will be BMD's response to the Sony BURANO Camera! 😉
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I would say this announcement is going to tank the prices for the F5/F55 camera bodies, but... I am not sure if they can go any lower!
But this is very much aimed at the F5/F55 owner.
It's a big jump up from the FS7 (which is what the FX9 was aimed at).
While being massively cheaper than the F35/F65 was (which is what the VENICE is aimed at).
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1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:
Yeah, so why buy a GH6 now? It's f***ed!
Look at the competition (even the competition from Panasonic's L Mount).
They had to bring out a new MFT camera soon.
1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:It's a nice tool, but also something of a strange move unless GH7 coming with PDAF just around the corner.
The rumors are that the development of a "GH7" being in the works will probably be announced at a similar time-ish as launch of the G9mk2 itself.
40 minutes ago, ac6000cw said:As the G9ii looks like it's using a version of the GH6 25Mp sensor with PDAF added, a GH6ii/GH7 is probably not far away...
Seems to be confirmed it is the GH6 sensor in the G9mk2:
https://www.43rumors.com/last-minute-g9ii-specs-has-same-gh6-sensor-15sec-pre-burst-weights-658g/ -
Blackmagic is teasing a new product announcement on September 14. Will they announce their first L-mount camera?
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6 hours ago, kye said:
Leaked (translated) specs:
- Micro 4/3 Live MOS Sensor
- Image plane phase detection AF
- Internal 5.7K 60/50p 10bit recording
- ProRes 5.7K & ALL-Intra 800Mbps via USB-SSD
- Anamorphic Mode 5.8K 30p 10bit
- Burst 75fps AFS – 60fps AFC
Plus (keeping all the usual good stuff, except very sadly the top display is going 😕 ) :
New 25.2 million pixel image sensor
New engine
8.0 stops of image stabilization
7.5 steps Dual IS
C4K/4K 60p 4:2:2 10bit
V-Log
1.84 million dot tilt free angle monitor
3.68 million dot OLED viewfinder
Dustproof and splashproof
Pre-continuous shooting function
Real-time LUT
C4K/4K 10bit 120p/100p
8 direction joystick
Wifi
Bluetooth4 hours ago, hoodlum said:Also, full size HDMI and USB-C 3.2 gen2. Basically, a faster m43 sensor with the body/ processor of the S5ii. You could easily switch back and forth between the G9ii and S5ii and not need to relearn anything.
Recording to a USB drive is cool!
QuoteBased on latest rumor, Panasonic will also announce a GH6X/GH7 with PDAF at the same time.
Yes, the way I understand is that:
1) G9mk2 is announced and immediately (or fairly soon afterwards) available to purchase
2) while "the development of" the GH6X/GH7 is announced, with their available being either late this year or perhaps next year
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On 6/16/2023 at 12:52 AM, FHDcrew said:
Speaking of OG cams…
Nikon Z6 - 1080p NLOG (oversampled)
Z6 is an old camera these days?
Man, that makes me feel old now...
On 6/16/2023 at 12:09 PM, kye said:The OG Alexa was 2.5K and most cameras these days still can't create an image as good....
Not long until we can get an OG Alexa for $2.5K
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9 hours ago, Django said:
Those P+S Technik lenses are $25K a pop
For professional cine lenses, that's low/mid range. It wouldn't have hurt the budget at all to rent them for the production.
7 hours ago, bjohn said:Does the speed booster also improve low-light performance, in the sense that you won't need as high an ISO as you might otherwise?
It gathers twice as much light. (but then you're back with the same disadvantage a larger sensor has... if you want to shoot at a given DoF, you are forced to stop down to match with a S35 sensor)
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2 hours ago, A_Urquhart said:
Of you watch the behind the scenes video I linked to above, you can see that most of the shots are actually done with a fairly minimal rig. P&S technik lenses and most surprisingly for me, a Tilta Nucleus M follow focus system! I have that system as a backup to my Teradek RT kit and really don’t know why anyone would choose it unless there were very strict budget constraints which this film wouldn’t have had.
My guess was that they had a constraint with budget in term of labour rate, not able to hire top established 1st ACs. But instead younger ones, within the first decade of their career, and they're more likely to have a Tilta Nucleus M instead. (I see these a LOT on film sets) The production isn't hiring the follow focus, they're hiring the 1st AC, and that's what they're bringing along.
2 hours ago, A_Urquhart said:Interesting either way and with Cooke announcing native E Mount lenses l, it’s interesting to see where things are heading.
I thought that was an interesting announcement too!
https://www.newsshooter.com/2023/09/05/cooke-sp3-prime-lenses-for-mirrorless-cameras/
With almost everyone having shallow mounts now as an option (even ARRI! With their LPL mount), maybe that is the future? Shallow "mirrorless mounts" (with swappable mounts).
2 hours ago, A_Urquhart said:as Iron Film said, I think the FX30 is a better buy. I’m a big fan of fast APSC lenses and pretty impressed how good the Sigma 18-35 1.8 performs on my FX30 with the MC11 adaptor. The AF when on a gimbal is extremely useful, fast and reliable.
Glad there are few others who see it that way! 🙂 I think even if the FX3 and FX30 were the same price, there is still a strong argument in favor of getting the FX30 instead of the FX3.
And the fact there is instead a quite big price gap between them, makes the argument for FX30 even stronger!
2 hours ago, A_Urquhart said:I’m now looking at replacing my Pocket 6K Pro with another Sony camera and while I initially thought about going FX3, I’m leaning more toward the Fx30.
It only P6K Pro came in MFT or E Mount, then it would be a lot more appealing option vs a FX30. (even though it has no AF)
2 hours ago, A_Urquhart said:I like the native ISOs of the fX30 better and the price difference will be better spent on lenses I think
Indeed, I think that's an aspect which isn't talked about enough!
People talk about how much "better at low light the FX3" is, ignoring the facts:
1) is it even necessary?? Would you need a camera with 10 Billion Trillion ISO??
2) What ISOs do you actually use the most? The second ISO level of the FX30 is a much more practical ISO level you'd work at more often than the overly high second ISO level of the FX3, as you said "I like the native ISOs of the fX30 better"
3) what's the point in having a higher ISO if your sensor is so much bigger you lose all the low light benefits because you have to drop the F Stop way down to match with the DoF that the shot wants/needs?
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On 8/26/2023 at 12:00 AM, insch said:
I was planning to get an A7S MKIII until I was made aware of the FX3. I will primarily use this camera for 4K filming and have been advised that it's a better camera than the A7S for that task. From what I can see, the main differences for the FX3 are no electronic viewfinder but several mounting points, hence no essentail need for a cage. And a handle with XLR points. I have an Atomos Ninja V monitor/recorder that I could use with the FX3 to maximise its potential.
For sure the FX3 is a much better buy for filming with than the a7Smk3: better UI, no risk of overheating, more codec options, has timecode, etc
On 8/26/2023 at 12:00 AM, insch said:Is this the best camera for 4K in this price bracket?
I think the Sony FX30 is a better buy. It's a lot cheaper, so you can put the saved cash elsewhere to better usages. Plus the FX30 is the industry standard Super 35 sized sensor, making a great match for a whole tonne of high end cine lens sets if you wish to step it up another notch.
Panasonic G9 mk2
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Got to up your offer even further! Let your daughter borrow a Fujifilm GFX100
Well, the GH7 will probably be at a higher price?
And will likely have even more video features:
1) mini XLR??
2) mini SDI??
3) built in fan?
4) 4K 240fps???
5) multi aspect sensor??
6) six channel audio recording??
True. Better to have a "do it all camera" than a specialist stills vs video mirrorless.
Wish Panasonic would