jgharding

Once S1H gains momentum at filmschools, it will produce more and more impressive films. Today a friend of mine entered the realm of Varicam colour science and massive cinema image quality with the S1H. I was close to buy one myself, because I was going to sell my S1 due to the paid VLog update and the 10bit 4K60p of the S5. Tell you what, the VLog 10bit puts the S1 way ahead of a C300II image wise, no contest at all! If S5 will continues to sell well, and if Panasonic keeps their model philosophy in logic and neat order, they will grow and give Sony a good run for the money. My friend owns a GH5 and films with Arri at his school. If the S1H convinces him for his project, he is the usual film school image connoiseur, it will be on a whole lot of film school shoots. Film school in Germany means some free tickets for the large German film festivals as Berlinale and others. The S line I think will rock the scene. I hope I can be part of it.:)

I really wanted to like the S1 and even after getting the S5 I went back and looked at the S1 again especially since it has a full HDMI port and will soon be able to do internal 6K, not to mention it can still use the same XLR adapter I am using with the S5, the only things I don't like is the screen is not a full flip / tilt screen, besides the lenses and AF situation, and they charge for the VLOG "upgrade" which is why I never had it in the GH5.  I use the S5 at odd angles and on a gimbal quite often so that tilt flip screen is pretty important to me.
 
 I truly thought CLOG3 was as good as it gets, but working with VLOG out of the S5 is pretty incredible. The way I can push and pull the 10bit VLOG footage coming out of the S5 I thought was only possible with RAW footage. I always feel like I haven't exposed properly when the WFM says everything is still in range then I drop it into Resolve and a few clicks and it looks perfect.
That's my main concern....how many of us are out there? The cameras are great but if they are losing money on them how much longer will they keep making them? Everyone is predicting Nikon's fall, but it seems to me like Panasonic is the one in more trouble than Nikon.

Yeah I'm using the S1H and Nucleus Nano, the stills are amazing and the high-res photo mode is exceptional for still subjects, Vlog images are beautiful, and though Ninja V RAW is of limited use TBH it's still nice to have 

I think the issue is... how many of us are there? For me this is the best image available outside of Red and Arri, but are there enough of us who want it to keep them making these cameras?

When you do shows in the USA the crazy union racketeering is amazing too. Like charging you thousands of dollars to move a pallet of stuff 100ft, or $200 to hire a $20 chair for three days, or demanding that a union registered man stand next to you at a charge of $1000/hr if you want to film something (at one particular show).

It's a phenomenally corrupt business the trade show shebang. The people make it fun, everything else around it is s chore.

Alex with emotive color. He has a thread on here about his lut for the GH5.
https://www.emotivecolor.com/
Been a game changer for me in terms of color. So much nicer than the stock Panasonic 709. I've been limiting my camera choices to the ones he has luts for LOL. Aside from actually getting an Arri. Only one I could afford atm would be the Classic and its just too heavy and cumbersome for what I am used to. He does have a lut package for the A7s3, although the FX6 color is slightly different.

That electronic ND is the best though, really wish it was in every camera.

That electronic ND is the best though, really wish it was in every camera.

That electronic ND is the best though, really wish it was in every camera.

I feel like there is a crowd for these videos here. Apologies for the shameless self promotion though.

That thing could have run and run. It is a shame it was a one off.
Maybe we should organise our own!!
After the global plague that is.

Enjoyed that.
How many more of us on here were at that Converge conference ?
We should have a 10 year reunion next year.
Not that I actually spoke to any one at the first one obviously.

Can this be made downloadable please? Thanks Andrew

Good stuff, enjoyed the ramble 😀

There's nothing with Arriraw per say, but it is pretty big files, which can be a problem for smaller productions. Redcode goes nice and small.
 
ALEXA SXT Open Gate (3424x2202)ARRIRAW (.ari):
11.5 MB/frame & 996 GB/hour
ARRIRAW-HDE (.arx):
6.9 MB/frame & 598 GB/hour
 
ALEXA LF Open Gate (4448x3096)ARRIRAW (.ari):
20.9 MB/frame & 1.80 TB/hour
ARRIRAW-HDE (.arx):
12.5 MB/frame & 1.08 TB/hour

If the S1H would just output Braw i'd go and buy a blackmagic recorder...

Format wars are so tedious

I always think of it as related to compression TBH, AKA how much you can push colour around and have things still look good.

C100 with external recorder for example looked way better than internal, cos the colours didn't go all "thin" and insipid if you pushed it about, 

Trying to white balance adjustments on over-compressed footage results in a sort of messy colour wash. I think of this as "thin", the opposite as "thick"

If this model retains at least a decent 10-bit 4K mode of some description, and vlog, well Canon could be a little sore after the R5 debacle 😅
https://www.l-rumors.com/confirmed-panasonic-will-soon-announce-the-new-s5-entry-level-full-frame-l-mount-camera
I do wonder what this means for a GH6, if there is still one in the works or if full-frame is pretty much the Pana roadmap now...
All the S5 needs really is to be a lighter, stabilised run and gun with their solid 150mbps 4k 10-bit and it'll sell a bunch.

Personally I'd rather DPAF than PDAF, I can't stand those weird lines you get at higher ISO on PDAF sensors
Yeah it's good peaking. I can't really focus pull that well on Ninja V due to the high HDMI delay. You need to rehearse pulls so live pulling i HAVE to do on the screen

Personally I'd rather DPAF than PDAF, I can't stand those weird lines you get at higher ISO on PDAF sensors
Yeah it's good peaking. I can't really focus pull that well on Ninja V due to the high HDMI delay. You need to rehearse pulls so live pulling i HAVE to do on the screen

They do have previous on this, as DPAF was included some C cameras, not mentioned, but later activated

In the face of their competition it's been a serious blunder though

"Math Class" on Baidu now has extensive infrared thermometer readings of the camera's mainboard with the back off, showing they correspond closely to the temperature reported in the EXIF data and don't rise above 64C. His next finding is that if you remove the internal battery it resets the so-called overheating limitations. So who is telling the truth now, Canon?
You can view the most recent findings here by the user "Math Class" (Google translated)
Read the full article on EOSHD:
https://www.eoshd.com/8k/removing-internal-battery-resets-eos-r5-overheat-timer-are-canons-pants-now-completely-down/

I think it's great. I find that I have more trouble with my own vision than I did with focus peaking accuracy. When I use the EVF, nailing focus is quite easy. When I run on a tripod or gimbal, the internal screen, as good as it is, is simply too small, so I'm almost always using my Ninja V then anyways.

TBH on the S1H I don't miss the AF now I'm used to it.

I went back to a C200 a while back, and I was trusting it was AF, and it was actually slightly out through the whole interview. Now I always do that in MF too.

TBH on the S1H I don't miss the AF now I'm used to it.

I went back to a C200 a while back, and I was trusting it was AF, and it was actually slightly out through the whole interview. Now I always do that in MF too.

well this really is an omnishambles isn't it? It just gets worse with every new article.

If they had just called it a stills camera with spare video modes people may not have cared so much. But marketing it as an 8K RAW beast then having it not work properly for too long (either because of heat or because that would make it too good and cannibalise other sales) is a terrible marketing mis-step.

I can't imagine the meetings they're having...