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Emanuel got a reaction from nffclml2ppl in Sony A7S II is out!
Have you followed the basic example I posted up there? (I mean, the A-B-C case). That's the whole point.
In any case, I bet the new BMD cameras will stop the usual whining on 10-bit like a savior mantra.
HDCAM was 8-bit 3:1:1 and all that began the replacement of film for digital. Anything higher is better, yes, but the difference can be pointless or of lower importance when you're able to rid off banding when necessary. No need for an Uzi to hunting birds.
PS: IIRC, it was ProRes and not uncompressed. The comparison is still worthy.
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Emanuel got a reaction from nffclml2ppl in Sony A7S II is out!
PS: In any case, if you want to "blame" the codec or bitrate for the bigger difference, be my guest. I don't see where this doesn't match the discussion. Your 10-bit request is far away to be mandatory to kill banding. You just need the right balance of some variables. If you read what I'm used to post in these boards, that fits perfectly the equation. Let's not stuck up in our own likings and pay attention to facts with an open mind instead. 10-bit is just a number as any other.
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Emanuel got a reaction from nffclml2ppl in Sony A7S II is out!
You said it is "not as conclusive as I would like to" based on apparent conclusive stuff. Actually, it is not (as my previous post allegations can detail).
At least, we can agree on the sum up, very well. But please don't tell me I don't much like sunyata's test. Even though, his failed introduction as me and other two posters were able to point out. When finally served for something worthy (you call it better, I would say complementary entry), it is welcome and taken as valid. Except it doesn't touch the other one nor the points observed. The only remark in your behalf is exactly the complementary nature of those other variables beyond the basics 8-bit vs 10-bit dichotomy. And when I see people to still pop up to underestimate 8-bit, I just see the need to reiterate it.
And your point now is? :-)
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Emanuel got a reaction from nffclml2ppl in Great article
Mate, so you decide to be my tutor and correct my nonstandard English? LOL C'mon, give a break to your own sanity for your own sake. Yes, it happens people to have some other mother tongue. Your point is? I guess I've just started to repeat myself. We had crossed each other in some other thread earlier today, isn't it? Let me see, the discussion let you move it to here?! ;-) For the sake of your spontaneous invectives, who wrote "the single credible authority on cinematography"?? You : P And don't be disrespectful with EOSHD or you are with every single member used to post here. Go figure if someone would dare to subjectively criticize your own. Ad hominem atacks are a very dirty sport to begin with. They tell a lot about the quality of the man behind an alias. My name and background is in my signature. Yours? Who is the man I have now the commission to chat with? Be a gentleman to this community and reach me on my PM box. You can try to send your message in my native language in order to clear up the things a little bit to me... haha
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Emanuel got a reaction from nffclml2ppl in Great article
No. That statement is inaccurate. You've disagreed, true. But, far away to be me to be emotional on that. You've just started to discredit that test (not even mine) because didn't serve your higher bit depth claim. "Baseless assertions" were not mine, pal. My "holier-than-thou" expression as you say now is written in some other (figurative speech) context and in some other thread where here you kept going your crusade over the messenger. We, me and other posters of your side, were even capable to conclude it there. Not exactly agreeing to disagree. Go there and take a second glance on topic. There's much to read.
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Emanuel got a reaction from shooter in Great article
Mate, so you decide to be my tutor and correct my nonstandard English? LOL C'mon, give a break to your own sanity for your own sake. Yes, it happens people to have some other mother tongue. Your point is? I guess I've just started to repeat myself. We had crossed each other in some other thread earlier today, isn't it? Let me see, the discussion let you move it to here?! ;-) For the sake of your spontaneous invectives, who wrote "the single credible authority on cinematography"?? You : P And don't be disrespectful with EOSHD or you are with every single member used to post here. Go figure if someone would dare to subjectively criticize your own. Ad hominem atacks are a very dirty sport to begin with. They tell a lot about the quality of the man behind an alias. My name and background is in my signature. Yours? Who is the man I have now the commission to chat with? Be a gentleman to this community and reach me on my PM box. You can try to send your message in my native language in order to clear up the things a little bit to me... haha
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Emanuel reacted to Ken Rodriguez in Is Red about to release an affordable camera?
I'd rather get the camera in the hands of more people which inevitably means more creative content that will show off the technology rather than the community be a bunch of stuck-up entitled assholes who think they're better than everyone else.
PS. I drive a 911 and I think Caymans and Boxsters are great cars and they don't "dilute" the Porsche brand.
High-and-mighty people ruin it for owner communities.
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Emanuel reacted to abds69 in Sony A7S II is out!
don't talk about gh4 nor A7S 2 , same stuff, just enjoy this simple video recorded in Full HD prores HQ on the 4K mini Ursa (not the 4,6K 15 stops version, so let's imagine)...RED and Alexa or not so far this time...
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Emanuel reacted to abds69 in Sony A7S II is out!
Blackmagic ursa mini 4K starts at only 2800€, this time we play in the big guys yard.
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Emanuel reacted to KarimNassar in Sony A7S II is out!
the reason there is no difference is because you are using a grayscale image so there is only luma information in your image so nothing gets subsampled.
It is the foundation of how chroma subsampling works:
"Chroma subsampling is the practice of encoding images by implementing less resolution for chroma information than for luma information, taking advantage of the human visual system's lower acuity for color differences than for luminance"
only color information gets discarded when using chroma subsampling, in your images there is none.
4:2:0 4:2:2 4:4:4
^ first number is the luma component, as you can see there is no reduction no matter the chroma subsampling.
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Emanuel reacted to wolf33d in Great article
http://admiringlight.com/blog/the-sliding-scale-of-camera-capabilities/
That applies 100% to video.
Interesting to see how Canon was a killer, democratizing the industry for stills and then for video (5D2) by releasing affordable devices with pro features.
Such a shame it is not the case anymore. What changed at Canon?
All of this because of their Cine line I hate it, and hate all of you who are buying C100, C300, C500 that make money to Canon and make them cripple the 7Ds/5Ds bodies for us non professional ...
Without this Cine line, we would get a 5D4 with 4K with great bitrate and Canon Log - DPAF and so on.......
I still think 5D4 will have 4K unlike many of you (don't imagine how a body can come in 2016 without 4K, that would be non imaginable) when even iPhones get 4K.
But it will probably a 5D3 like video, which means not clean, poor bitrate, no HFR, ...
Anyway.
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Emanuel reacted to Nikkor in Is Red about to release an affordable camera?
I wonder how they will call it. Red-uzi, pistol, knife, bonebreaker, baseballbat, shrepnell...
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Emanuel got a reaction from iamoui in Sony A7S II is out!
4:2:2 to begin with, even much more important.
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Emanuel reacted to jgharding in The new Sony FS5
Now I do like Canon colour, but it's not worth 3 times the price for a C300 MKii over this.
Sony pricing is hammering Canon at the moment... At this rate we will end up 100% Sony within the year from 100% Canon a year before.
Come on Canon, catch up!
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Emanuel reacted to Mattias Burling in The new Sony FS5
There is only one single feature that imo makes this camera very considerable to the competition.
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Emanuel reacted to shooter in Canon announces development of 8K Cinema EOS camera and 120MP DSLR
Mattias, Emanuel said the same example before. You misunderstood him. He just cares for resolution more than you.
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Emanuel reacted to Eduardo Portas in Canon announces development of 8K Cinema EOS camera and 120MP DSLR
Thanks, I'll give it a read.
I completely agree that better acquisition will improve your final delivery.
However, seeing that an enormous amount of streamed video is watched on tiny displays I struggle to find any differences at all between well done HD and 4K while having two or more windows open at the same time in my Mac or PC.
I would propose that we are slowly veering towards a "YouTube aesthetic" versus a "Hollywood/BBC video aesthetic" were the latter is more pleasing for narrative visual work, instead of 4 minute clips of people ranting about why the new iPhone sucks.
Cheers.
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Emanuel reacted to fuzzynormal in Dji stealing costumers?
"Dji stealing costumers?" They don't want costumes, just the people that make them!
But let's be fair, the OP is probably someone that's not using English as a native language. Still, DJI has a rep for having non-existant "costumer" service, so it's most likely a legitimate complaint.
Still, you have to be prepared. If your business success is dependent on one battery, you need to reconsider things.
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Emanuel reacted to paulraymaekers in Sony A7S II is out!
it matters a lot in situations where there is only one of the basic colours: for example under water, where only blue is left, (green and red gone)
you only have 8 bit blue left, and this give clear banding
10 bit is much better in this case
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Emanuel reacted to DBounce in Sony A7S II is out!
Well since most people can only perceive about 1 million colors and only one person has been discovered that had the wetware to perceive more, it might not matter.
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Emanuel got a reaction from shooter in Canon announces development of 8K Cinema EOS camera and 120MP DSLR
This confusion between acquisition and delivery is absolutely a swamp (this thing here walks in circles!)
"I was used to this usual mistake when in the early 90s, my video dealer was often trying to convince me that a VHS tape from video recording would equal the 260 lines of a hollywood blockbuster when downsampled.
Nyquist is mandatory reading"
http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/9355-canon-announces-development-of-8k-cinema-eos-camera-and-120mp-dslr/?do=findComment&comment=105951
Yeah? Funny. So, they don't see any difference on higher resolution (actually, the most probable for bad of our best intentions), but they will care about color and latitude... LOL
I wonder how many of people HERE are used to really have average people out there to directly evaluate their final work... That's what comes to my mind now.