Emanuel

Once you've answered me from your edit, only to obviously second from YT streaming you have too little. The only point is how they resist to such YT stress though. There's always something to conclude from there. The first test is definitely not under identical variables so it is not a scientific one nor is intended to be as the tester warns us from his own disclaimer. Where real life stands there then? There's little to no sense at all to underestimate ProRes Proxy as unusable and inferior to H.264. Thus, "pretty terrible", you wrote before? What can we say in respect of H.264 to compare with? To call it... ' pretty horrible ' ?! : X When every samples about, actually point out in the other way round. You can defend the tests are far to be ideal, fact. As much as you suggested to do a blind test admitting in the subsequent post you are unable to perform such fair test since you are limited in your resources. So, you don't have any evidence on the contrary either, because anything you may find proves exactly the misconception, that is, the opposite. And by far. Let alone my own personal experience off now (E : -)

Nice to see. So much expected for years. Sorta game changer, much ado about noting... Overhyped at same time. ' Everything you need ' ?! They're far away to be alone in this industry, they're not "the only game in town" either as matter of fact : D where they've simply ignored video shooters not so far ago, when others didn't. If memory serves for something ; -)

These days Nikon boys apply : D I thought I was a Nikkor one of them... LOL : -)

Casual use indeed : ) PSNR -- figures follow identical variables though, could only match real life finds. Always the first scope I intend to. Have you followed those two videos up there? The 1st one matches my non-scientific impression from casual shooting of my own. From my experience with P4K I've become impressed how good ProRes PXY is and how useful can be for professional usage without much need of over processing your footage at post. Impressive to my book. We have a winner IMO : -) I'd rather shoot PXY over H.264 hands down any time at equivalent bitrate. BTW from my own testing, I am not exactly a H.265 lover either, despite its goodies. I'm eager to wait and test BRAW I expect to be the last innovation since sex was invented only to quote some other good old fellow : -D Disclaimer: I am a Windows & Android guy surrendered to this Apple's contribution to our craft.

Why not? For the fun : ) Some variables must be considered though. The way it is implemented. The use you have it for. Acquisition, as workflow tool, intended for first or multi generation, etc. Better to not forget those 'apples to oranges' and 'horses for courses' principles to fit. What device will you perform both h.264 and ProRes PXY at equivalent bitrate? My experience comes from different devices so it is my testing eye and the theory behind. Once I don't have anything mine under identical circumstances to show up, let's some other findings flow anyway no matter where our convictions stand through ; )

Cinema-like, you mean? Yeah, this is a step forward pretty friendly for all of us end users no matter where our money is. Bias and fanboyism have become a poor quality show off, lately. The more affordable the gear pops up the more 'my team shirt is more colorful than yours' will be heard from. E : -)

A new existent player but still unknown. I've personally picked them for offering the best deal along P4K. More to come next days. Just pending from some current negotiation. I can only guarantee AFAIK it is the best commitment for the P4K from a few tests already conducted.

Well, more than a 'disruptive hybrid' you end to have two camera models all-in-one then ; -)

So what?! You have any idea about camera design and engineering...? I only didn't downvote you this time because I tend to dislike them as much as I respect you even when you drop such rubbish *Phew* Cameras performance like dicks ain't pixel size or amp/volt/watts related ; ) Save your funds for a few batteries and stop to spread nonsense! Too funny to still read so BS from a long time poster/camera owner like you : ) Shame I can't ask how old you are! LOL

In this case it will be the only one at the lightweight side then. There's another advantage yet: let the display free for viewing angle.

There is a gimbal manufacturer I can't disclose any details for now because of some negotiations to run at this moment. It is the only one able to mount the motor either on left or right for best use along the P4K. 1.2kgs is also one of the lightest gimbals you can find within the 3-4kgs range for payload. Without mention a most affordable price target to match the deal. Anyone interested for further information please feel free to reach me via PM. E : -)

From Apple's April 2018 white paper: https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper.pdf Anyone here still have memory of that professional Panasonic 90's D5? PSNR stands for peak signal-to-noise-ratio. Any doubts yet? ; -)

Don't reverse the quote, buddy ; ) Yours inferred so, not mine! If you compare clauses, you can't change them to distort the output as your wish. To argue a point must concur fair premises all way long (bias is invariably used to born from that precise path ; -) No idea on your testing conclusions, obviously : ) You have good quality lower bitrate (35Mbps for 1080p and higher than about 150Mbps for 4K DCI 25p) anyway on P4K and with most robust 4:2:2 for casual outcome. Take a look on this to second something else not by my hand this time (if necessary): https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_ProRes#Apple_ProRes_422_Proxy https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5988053?answerId=26267966022#26267966022 EDIT -- Sorry for the 1st link in Portuguese, I didn't find it in English though.

What ISOs?

Weather sealing going with an external recorder attached to?! Good luck... LOL : -)

Have you ever shoot with? I've been finding 1920 x 1080 (also available on 4K DCI & UHD) ProRes PXY shot on P4K much away from your description, pretty the opposite BTW... : ) 4:2:2 makes all the difference anyway.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/12/11/honor-view-20-camera-samples-reveal-photography-prowess-of-48-megapixel-sony-imx586-sensor/ https://www.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7-pro-48mp-sony-imx586/ For about 150 bucks... there's no more excuses to stop you become an artist for large ; -)

Indeed. Dreamy days we live today: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-9513.php For 200 bucks! Add both 4K pocket BMD & Osmo versions (+ M2P as you wish going your stuff aerial as well), you have your really mobile and handy large format ready for still/motion wherever you go! Here's a thread of nowadays ; -)

Let alone the dropped frames... LOL

Exactly.

For sure for limited takes... ; -)

Lossless in order to be named and considered a digital negative to be able to allow posterior recovery? For sure. Other than that, RAW there is pure solecism then if so. E : -)

Well, nothing to object then : ) I find your comment pretty solid, so 100% agreed : -) I put all my bets for now on the new BRAW to be implemented into the P4K to begin with. Hope others to be subject to be there as further add-on to follow.

Not exactly. RAW doesn't necessarily mean uncompressed (that is, can perfectly happen to be minimally processed) but more prone to be taken as a digital negative where information may be subject to be recovered lately. This is what generally characterizes the tool : -)

I know once having tested P4K along with and actually, I have loved it! : -)