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15 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

Laowa have announced a range of T1 cine lenses in FF, APS-C and, yes, MFT format today that will narrow the gap for GH7 owners looking to emulate the “hang on, is any of this in focus?” look of the larger formats.

Well, not exactly a full range when it comes to MFT as it currently only includes 18 and 25mm and not the wide option of the others.

Full details here

https://laowacine.com/product/laowa-argus-t1-cine-series-mft/

I know what you mean. At one point of time, a lotta TV series (especially low budget food, and travel and living kinda), were shot on the 5D. And the majority of the time they were not in focus. It just looked unnecessarily soft and terribly blurry. 

P.S.: Hope someone creates a speedbooster for the RF mount. Those could make it look wild on M43 cameras 

Isn't it getting a 4k sports version now. 

6 minutes ago, Davide DB said:

And for sure he could write anything in the video description...

Exactly 

20 minutes ago, Davide DB said:

No but I don't criticize it.

I think it is impossible to judge cameras by videos. This is a bias that was born on social media and will never die. 

I have never heard about a film that it would have come out differently if they had used one camera or another and yet this BS on social never dies. 

The videos say more about the skill of the author than the camera.

I would like to see Roger Deakins with a GH2.... 😉

 

If Panasonic paid him $1 Million, he would.

Also, I may be wrong, but its difficult to really judge the image unless one sees it on a much bigger screen, that had great HDR. On a smartphone screen it's pretty useless. On smaller monitors too, it's pretty difficult to judge.

2 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Official certification by ARRI is surprising indeed!

If anything can cause an explosion in seeing Panasonic mirrorless on film sets I work on, it would be THIS! 

Would instantly make the GH7 the #1 choice for crash cam / B Cam / etc, anything that needs very awkward mounting, such as mounting a camera for a shower scene or riding a motorbike or a snorricam. 

 

Panasonic basically leap flogged all the Netflix Certified Cameras 😎

They NEED to sell these in the Truckloads to Influencers, Film School Students and Low Budget  Filmmakers. Hope their Marketing gets it right this time. Hopefully they don't shoot a video on the Alexa35 and pass it off as the GH7 😉

Great time for M43 

There's a certain charm and thrill to a super low budget short film, that absolutely no large budget feature can match.

4 hours ago, IronFilm said:

The YAGH was innovative for its time, nobody else had tried this, but I can't see them ever repeating in 2024 the now obvious mistakes of it:

1) it needed external power

2) was too big (having four SDI outputs for instance is great, but a bit overkill? 1x full size HDMI + 2x SDI independent outputs is enough for 97%+ of people) 

They can just make an external recorder for the GH7, which simultaneously records multiple flavours of RAW, with a built-in battery. Having such a contraption below the camera is great since other things can be out above. Though a rig within the new YAGH avatar would be great.

They don't need a sound recorder because the Panasonic DMV-XLR1 does a great job, expect  that's it's been replaced by better mics and preamps for 32-bit recording or stays the same, while the 32-but magic happens internally within the GH7? 

The Single Most important thing, "has Gerald been invited or Not?"

On a more serious note, I feel Panasonic can squeeze out another 1/2 of dynamic range (from the G9ii) by tweaking the VLog, improving heat management and improving the Sensor coating further. That's 11.8 (G9ii) + 0.5 stops. That Full Frame territory. A few flavours of ProRes, BRAW and RAW wouldn't be too bad. They could shrink that horrible YAGH attachment that they made for the GH4, to about 1/3rd it's size, and have external multiple flavour RAW in the recorder. 

3 hours ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

The discover that Pansonic used stock photos (even one from a Nikon Ambassador) in the S9 brochures is not helping either.

Tie this PR disaster with the Asahi reports that Panasonic camera division could be axed...

That's probably very common in all camera and smartphone promos. It may have to do with the AD Agencies and Panasonic's advertising division just be stupid, disorganized and lazy, instead of anything else.

Contrary to us assuming that the Great Gerald has dented Panasonic's image and given them a bad name, cause they didn't send a Rolls-Royce and a private jet to receive him, people seem to calling him out and others like him, who've suddenly become self appointed demi-Gods. On youtube, influencers are shameless deleting comments, but on regular forums and sites where it's discussed, the discussions actually highlight the problem quite succinctly. 

https://petapixel.com/2024/05/28/panasonic-reacts-to-controversy-concerning-its-lumix-s9-event/

These two guys have highlighted all issues with Panasonic. Which is a pretty long list, according to them. But there is a certain dignity and maturity to their review and criticism. Something obviously lacking in some others.

https://petapixel.com/2024/05/22/panasonic-s9-initial-review-small-pretty-and-confusing/

On 5/25/2024 at 9:41 AM, kye said:

I'm not really following the project, but this got posted to a FB group I'm in and the footage looks pretty good...  nothing incredible, because it's a standard sensor of course, but really workable:

From the video description:

• STARVIS 2 sensor (IMX585) from Sony
• shot in a variety of frames rates ( 24, 30, 48, 60 ) in both 12-bit lossless compressed and 16-bit uncompressed CinemaDNG RAW at 4K resolution
• directly to CFExpress Type B media
• shot handheld with an image-stabilized Canon 17-55mm lens and a Metabones speedbooster
• Edited and color graded in DaVinci Resolve 19 Beta (4K timeline, exported in 8K)

"Dialing in the color science and optimizing the dynamic range on the sensor is still very much a process we are dialing in. There are two modes for the sensor, one is 12-bit and the other is a 16-bit ClearHDR as Sony calls it, which is Dual Gain Output ( like Arri sensors / fairchild sensors used in Blackmagic ) it's this mode that has quite a bit of configurability and some further tuning. Most of the footage shown in this video is from the standard 12-bit mode."

Wow. Sounds quite promising. Would love to see some footage from the 16-bit video. I am guessing it may have impressive exposure latitude. The video in this clip has crushed blacks and blown out highlights. So adding a stop or 2 more may be a welcome change. 

This is hilarious. Some Moral High Ground Fable was Woven by some guy named Gerald, whose sulking cause he didn't get invited to a launch party, and people have started bashing the whole world. This is ludicrous. If he doesn't get invited to the Academy Awards next year, he'll probably have an absolute meltdown. 

Who even trusts these reviewers. 

2 hours ago, ac6000cw said:

From the specs on the Panasonic UK website:

 

Whoa. This is pretty terrible 😕 

Thanks for sharing this.

I believe it doesn't have overheating or recording time issues in 4k mode (except in high speed modes?)

In wonder if the Snapdragon X processor laptops will be good for productivity. Sone laptops makers including Microsoft seem to compare them with the M3 chip laptops. 

If they are truly that good, good riddance to enormously heavy laptops with terrible battery,  and plug-in dependant performance. 

Panasonic should have put something like the 61MP Sony sensor inside, with a slightly wider lens to create the street photography monster that can compete with Fujifilm. 

Apparently the 50GPU is going to being far more drastic improvements. Maybe you could make do with a 30GPU and then directly move to the 50GPU when it releases later this'll year. 

Apparently this is very popular among people who are into paranormal activities and looking to recording on-field audio 

I was thinking of using the Fuji X-H2S for a small project but I saw some video regarding IR pollution. Has anyone else encountered it?

11 hours ago, SRV1981 said:

Sarcasm?

It actually seems on the mid or lower scale for a video shooting APS-C sensor. It's a little disappointing especially considering it's immense popularity. Though its prick point is pretty low, which is due to It's missing hardware features like EVF. Probably doesn't have any water or dust resistance (?). The Panasonic G9ii has about half a stop better dynamic range and way more features including some amazing anamorphic modes, good weather sealing, HHHR etc. It's more expensive but it has a lot more features. 

8 hours ago, kye said:

For example the iPhone 15 tests as having 13.4 stops of DR, but the latitude test shows that it only has 5 stops of latitude, whereas the a6700 has 8 stops, yet only tests as 11.4 stops of DR.

There may be a small series of glitches with the dynamic range test chart. It cannot make out the difference between overbaked images and actual dynamic range very clearly. All smartphone images are way too processed. And the excessive noise reduction and over-sharpening seems to make the image very limited for post work. Apple has clearly figured out to fake results on the test chart. Much like some smartphone companies having  higher results on the SoC testing apps.

The difference between total visible stop at SNR 1 and usable ones at SNR 2 seem to suggest good headroom, especially when codec is high bitrate and with good bit depth (atleast 10-bit 4-2-2?). Then SNR 1 and SNR 2 are similar it's difficult tonsee whether the image is way too baked in to recover any more than the visible image shows. 

4 minutes ago, SRV1981 said:

 

https://www.cined.com/sony-a6700-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/

11.2 stops at SNR of 2. Which is probably not really good. 

Is it true that the FX30 has worse dynamic range than the G9ii and X-H2S? 

Long ago there was a discussion here (and many other places online), about 4k 4-2-0 being converted to 1080p 4-4-4 (or maybe even 4-2-2 if that sounds more reasonable?).

I guess with the various upressing software available, increasing resolution from 1080p to 4k, and increasing bit depth too, a little downscaling (from 4k to 1080p) and increasing bit depth (from 4-2-0 to 4-4-4 or 4-2-2?), and then upressing to 4k from 1080p may work well. Especially if the shadows aren't too noisy and highlights aren't blown out. 

P.S.: Didn't realise the thread was started by the luminary of photography and videography 😉

2 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

I'm going to go on a limb and guess the micro 4k g2 has no IBIS.  There are a lot of 4K cameras without IBIS that don't overheat.  A number of people have used Z Cams in all-day shoots in similar or worse conditions and said that while other components (storage, monitor) were failing, the camera just kept ticking along (even at 6K).  Once IBIS is introduced, sensor cooling gets a lot harder - it's pretty tough to attach a heat sink to a thing that is suspended by magnets.  😃

Sonys were overheating well before IBIS became a thing 🤣🤣🤣

Also the kind of Card used, sensor and body size, heatsinks used, processors used, body type etc should decide how much a camera overheats. Some Canons have improved heat management after firmware updates. 

2 hours ago, kye said:

Indeed.

It's a pity that reality doesn't fit in a sound-byte.

Couldn't agree more. The average attention span nowadays is like 2 minutes or less. If one's attentions isn't drawn within that time, people leave.