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I'll genuinely appreciate that a lot. Please preserve the gh2 history, don't let it vanish

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I'd also be totally OK with them releasing an entry-level M43 camera based on modern-day "entry-level" specs. Give me a GM5 that can do good-quality 10-bit 4K at 24 frames per second with a log profile and price it at $600 and I'll come sprinting back to Micro 4/3. Fuji was able to put more of than in the X-M5 which is $900 new - the only thing that's kept me from picking one up and playing with x mount is that the used prices are still at a "just buy it new, I guess" $870. Anyway, just give it a GH5 sensor from 2017 or a GH5s sensor from 2018. It's a great sensor and I know people who are still happily shooting with their GH5. For that price, I wouldn't even pitch a fit if it didn't have IBIS ($700 with IBIS would be about equally tempting, though!). It overheats after 10 minutes? Fine by me! 100% this. When I could go spend $2.2k and get either a GH7 or a Nikon ZR - when the ZR is much smaller than the GH7, I'd better really care about IBIS because otherwise it's not even close. Though the GH7 is on sale right now for $1,800 which I guess makes it more competitive, but... That is somewhat true, but sometimes the trade-offs in full frame terms just kind of end up making the lens feel micro 4/3sy. Like the Canon 800/11 which is probably the most "giving something up" of FF lenses basically ends up like a 400/5.6 on Micro 4/3 - and it's surprisingly good/sharp? The EF 100-400/4.5-5.6L is pretty decent and doesn't weigh all that much. The slower aperture matters less on a modern body. I'd also keep in mind that if shooting 8K on a FF body, you can crop in a bit before matching the resolution of even the best Micro 4/3 body which is 6K. Anyway. Regardless of trade-offs or which system can be micro-optimized to have the absolute best telephoto performance at the minimum weight, shooting micro 4/3 for telephoto reasons is likely to stay a niche use case for the foreseeable future. For me, it seems like the future of M43 almost has to be in small/light bodies. If I were buying one today, I'd be so much more likely to pick up an OM5 II than a GH7. The GH7 may be the pinnacle of Micro 4/3 technology, but it's also bigger and heavier than the EOS R5 that I already own.

That's a rather absolute statement and probably easy to debunk. Also, hinting progress isn't making an announcement of any kind. You'd probably agree that it shouldn't be expected that Lumix would make a announcement with CINED either. But, saying there's development is certainly doable. Does it? This is mature tech now and certainly not on the cutting edge. I think the cost is more in weight than anything else. Although, the E-P7 is only 337g and has proper 5-axis IBIS. I agree with this, except the new market could easily accept premium compacts too. There's also room for in-between products similar to the GX9, which wasn't really a bottom feeder either. A newer version of that camera would be exactly what I want, perhaps even smaller and lighter and even more premium. My feeling is that if they can do stuff in a phone, they could also do it in a camera. @Andrew - EOSHDwas right in saying that there's been an "Americanization" of these cameras, meaning bigger, chunkier cameras and seemingly without too much consideration for how components could be miniaturized. (I believe he said something like this in his GH6 review). The difference in size between the GH6/7 and a GH1 is massive; unapologetically ignoring all advancements in smaller components. I want smaller with M43, not more capable if it means massive bodies. Yeah, that really depends on the manufacturer. They're always giving up something, with a few exceptions.

Hey everyone! I've just recently purchased a gh2 and I was looking for people who might still have any gh2 patches available since the personal-view site is down where they hosted most of the gh2 patches If someone could provide any sort of links to gh2 patches available, that would be highly appreciated

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All these stills look great though.

Surely not ; ) But, it's something people out there do wonder about, y'all know? Here's just one (and finest) example — do not kill the messenger! : D I know this forum (or a few of you to be more precise ; ) loves to underestimate or undermine these insignificant devices... but I really also wonder if... it's not time for a change? What do you guys think? : ) Simon Wyndham's input (part of Alister Chapman's circle / aka Mr. XDCAM = given his Sony connection back in those early days) source : X

I don't think this makes it a cinema camera...

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No manufacturer is going to reveal a future product before it is ready to be sold unless they are in dire straits and their current products have zero chance of selling. To me it seems that manufacturers consider small cameras more entry-level and make a progression so that in each level up, most aspects of the next higher-level camera is better than the level below, except for size and weight, and the cost increases along with weight, features, performance, and quality. Since Panasonic have (more expensive) 35mm full-frame cameras, they have incentive to make the micro four thirds products less in most ways, to motivate people who can afford the FF to go with it instead of the MFT. Sony does emphasize small size and low weight throughout their stills/hybrid camera lineup. A small camera is more difficult to make more powerful (in terms of performance, image quality, high end video codecs etc.) and people will invariably complain about whatever its flaws may be, be it lack of efficient codecs, overheating, operation etc. IBIS makes the camera significantly more expensive. In the small sensor class, IBIS would be useful (just as it is with larger cameras) but it would increase the camera size, weight, and cost, all three factors noticeably, hence reducing the advantages of small size, light weight, and moderate to low cost. And this class of cameras is competing with smartphones as well, due to their pocketability and communications abilities. It's just a tight place to be in. Probably this is why Nikon discontinued the 1 series and Canon their M system. Full-frame telephoto lenses have also gotten much smaller and lighter in recent years.

Why would anyone use MFT today? They want a small, capable camera setup (under 500g with lens); They want high-end telephoto quality without the extreme weight. Almost everything else can be done with a larger sensor without too much weight penalty, which is the point. You'd think in this interview he'd at the very least mention that there's a small MFT camera in the pipeline. Instead, they say they're committed to MFT (and simultaneously discontinuing lenses like the 20mm f/1.7). They've had that G100/D since 2021, using the same tech as from 2015, only worse (no real IBIS). Meanwhile, the now old and abuse GM5 is poised to pass up cameras like the GH6 on MPB. Does anyone need more proof than that to know there's a serious want for consumers today? Come on Panasonic! Get your $hit together!

That tracks.

I really appreciate you taking the time to come post about this on here - I was wondering what happened and I'm glad I found this thread when I checked again recently. I found some of your old videos + reviews really entertaining and useful when I was considering trying blackmagic cameras, so thanks very much for that. I have a lot of fondness for some of those videos, and if I'd realised the channel would completely disappear I probably would've saved them. 10 years from now it would be nice to be able to look back on them.

Well, there's one hell of a metaphor in the "context" of this.

Last year I experimented with a Digital Bolex and an iOS app that recorded the gyroscopic data from the phone. I took the footage and the phone's sensor data in Gyroflow software and was able to stabilize the footage. It worked well and I was impressed by it but cumbersome in the field to shoot with as you have to start the app and then start rolling the camera, it was more trouble than it was worth for me at that time so I didn't continue with it. Now I hear about this new product called Niyien Senseflow A1. A tiny little thing that you can put in your cold shoe and only have to start it once per day. Seems pretty neat. I'm pondering getting one and trying it out. I'll let you know how it goes. Does anyone on here have one and can give their experience with it?

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Lots of diplomatic non-answers. TLDR: S1H Successor — Panasonic acknowledged the demand, but gave no timeline or product confirmation CineD, only saying they're listening to feedback from video creators. Cinema Cameras — Panasonic hinted at future growth in this space, noting that merging its consumer and professional AV divisions will allow cinema cameras to "evolve even further," CineD but stopped short of announcing anything specific like a Sony FX3 competitor. MFT is Not Dead — Tsumura-san pushed back on concerns about MFT being sidelined, pointing to recent releases like the GH7, G9II, and new LEICA MFT lenses, framing the dual L-mount/MFT strategy as one of LUMIX's core strengths. S9 EVF — Panasonic is aware that photographers strongly want an EVF on the S9, and is weighing that against keeping the camera compact. What's Coming — Panasonic teased "numerous exciting products and new workflow proposals throughout the year" L Mount System but gave no specifics.

"Tsumura-san confirmed that photographers who compose through viewfinders “strongly request the inclusion of an EVF,” and that Panasonic is considering the balance between compact size and EVF inclusion as they work to “meet the expectations of as many customers as possible.” LOL. GM5 anyone?

Yes, I don’t get it either. You are in the full-frame LUMIX ecosystem and are considering a new camera and on your interest list is the latest options from Nikon and from Sony. You are increasingly tempted to jump ship even though it’s a big move. Which one of the below options do you wish to hear? A: We are working on a new flagship camera that will be launched in the Summer. B: Expanded horizons, creative direction, global market strategies, Operation Epic Bullshit, waffle waffle waffle, blah di blah di blah. I didn’t watch it and haven’t read a single word of it but 100% sure it wasn’t A: A perfect example of how not to retain customers. There is a saying which applies to all business and that is no matter the size, small, medium or large/international, just because you are in business, doesn’t mean you are any good at business. Some companies are more clueless than others…

This. Every review for the past decade has talked about firmware updates "hopefully the brand will do this of fix that". They never do. I'm in the Nikon ecosystem so I'm tempted to sell my xh2s for the ZR, but it's more of a sideways move. I'd lose open gate, and fuji has a great image. But the Fuji isn't reliable, especially with AF.

Agree this is a waste of time. They should say "a cinema camera is coming" or "the S1ii is our cinema camera". Either would help a lot of consumers decide what their next move is.

On the cined web site, there is a text version summarizing the interview - much less time-consuming to digest.