New travel film-making setup and pipeline - I feel like the tech has finally come of age

[kye]

16 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

Nice stuff! Have you shot any interviews with this setup? 

No, I just shoot travel stuff, so not really the same thing, but having said that it would crush it if you gave it controlled lighting and a fast sharp prime.  Shooting in these high DR scenes with available lighting is a torture test compared to an interview where you're rolling out the red carpet and making everything the easiest it could possibly be for the camera.

You feeling tempted?

[zerocool22]

3 hours ago, kye said:

No, I just shoot travel stuff, so not really the same thing, but having said that it would crush it if you gave it controlled lighting and a fast sharp prime.  Shooting in these high DR scenes with available lighting is a torture test compared to an interview where you're rolling out the red carpet and making everything the easiest it could possibly be for the camera.

You feeling tempted?

I see, well in my case I would be using it also for run and gun interviews with only natural light. So dynamic range needs to be great. Not sure my s5ii will make it, allthough according to cined. There is not that much dr difference with the a7siii. Maybe the highlight rolloff is nicer on the a7siii. Not sure.

I wished there were more camera stores over here that would let you test stuff in their store.

[kye]

21 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

I see, well in my case I would be using it also for run and gun interviews with only natural light. So dynamic range needs to be great. Not sure my s5ii will make it, allthough according to cined. There is not that much dr difference with the a7siii. Maybe the highlight rolloff is nicer on the a7siii. Not sure.

I wished there were more camera stores over here that would let you test stuff in their store.

I would suggest that it has enough DR, as would most current high-end cameras.  Have you done any tests to work out how much DR you're actually dealing with?  I'd suggest it's less than you'd think.  

It's trendy to complain about how cameras don't have enough DR and to continually call for more, and I have done this in the past as well, however I did it because I actually shoot scenes on a regular basis (backlit sunsets) and I was able to work out how much DR this required in real life (the BMPCC / BMMCC could just do it and the GH5 fell short) so I knew I needed around 11 stops.  I would suggest that interview situations, even naturally lit, wouldn't require as much as literally having the sun in the frame, but it's very easy to run a test and find out.

I did a latitude test on the GH7 in V-Log Prores and whatever wasn't clipped kept full quality, so with proper colour management was basically perfect.

[MrSMW]

2 hours ago, kye said:

It's trendy to complain about how cameras don't have enough DR and to continually call for more

Read that a few times about the S5ii and hoping for a better low light camera.

My thoughts to that are 😂

and 🥱

[PannySVHS]

2 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Read that a few times about the S5ii and hoping for a better low light camera.

My thoughts to that are 😂

As long as colours look shitty enough, everbody seems to be happy.😊 A lot of youtube footage from the current 10bit and raw cameras makes CineD on the Gh4 look like from a grand era of color science.

I really loved the colors from your Bmmcc footage and I liked them better than GH7. @kye I've only liked the color from half a hand full of GH6/7 videos, one of them with high production values by Olan Collardy.

 

It seems to me like it's harder for a lot of people to treat log footage shot in natural light, coming from these modern hybrid cameras of the last five years. I like my og bmpcc much better than my Lumix S in that regard, same with stuff available on youtube.