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What's your take on recording audio in windy conditions?

I just got back from a quick shoot with a rode videomic ntg and a rycote classic softie and was disappointed how the wind affected the recording. Just a light breeze!

Got better results with an azden smx30 and their own deadcat.

Any recommendation other than rycote?

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1 hour ago, FranciscoB said:

@IronFilm

What's your take on recording audio in windy conditions?

I just got back from a quick shoot with a rode videomic ntg and a rycote classic softie and was disappointed how the wind affected the recording. Just a light breeze!

Got better results with an azden smx30 and their own deadcat.

Any recommendation other than rycote?

Try to put Gaffer on all buttons and holes on the back of the microphone. The wind may not be passing there.

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11 hours ago, FranciscoB said:

@IronFilm

What's your take on recording audio in windy conditions?


If it is properly windy, you need a blimp. 

Three of the main brands would be:
Cinela (thought of as "the best" by many)
Rycote (surely the most popular!)
Rode (the budget choice)
 

11 hours ago, FranciscoB said:

I just got back from a quick shoot with a rode videomic ntg and a rycote classic softie and was disappointed how the wind affected the recording. Just a light breeze!

Check the seal at the entrance, tape it down if you must. 

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14 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I've heard very good things about the Movo blimp. It's even cheaper than Rode! 


Keep in mind that absolutely NO audio professional specialist appear to have reviewed it. Not so much as a one paragraph review, let alone a detailed video review. 

So it is hard to judge if it is worthwhile, but by simply glancing at the product photos I'd already err in leaning towards shit rather than greatimage.thumb.png.d32d47a5a3a15f7545489cea8c5f94ca.png
But hey, it's also dirt dirt cheap, so for non-critical work, why not give it a punt?

 

13 hours ago, FranciscoB said:

Unfortunately I'm not working with a sound team, it's just me with the mic and camera. Blimp is a no go. Thanks for the help.


That's always going to be a tough ask then under windy conditions. 

Perhaps a lav with more extra wind protection? On camera mics are a shit approach anyway. 

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You always have to budget for wind and handling noise.  Sound Professionals do that.

From best to least: Cinela - Sennheiser (It has saved me unlimited times, I bought the set for 900€ back in the day but is my best set up) - Rycote - Rode

Rode works, but better save some and go Rycote. Smaller, lighter, simpler and better construction, better performance.

I have Cinela Cosy also, and is great as a super-expensive-well build-better performing softie. This is a kit with my Sanken CS-1M. 

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21 hours ago, FranciscoB said:

I usually do. That's why I bought the rycote softie which is 100$ instead of the rode one. But I'm disappointed at the performance. Luckily I have a few old deadcats that might work as solution.

100$ (85€) are just not enough, and you have to count the holding base also.

Most cost effective solution that works is probably the Rycote Supershield. Check them out, still not as good as the more expensive ones, but at least 10X better than other softies (4Χ better than the Cosy, and half price almost!).

My Cinela Cosy cost 600€, and it is still a glorified softie.

Sennheiser 900€, the Rycotes I have around 500€.

There are the Rycote Cyclone that are even more expensive (one expensive piece of kit I wouldn't recommend) and the Cinela Piano and Pianissimo are 4 digits price.

Physics are difficult to be beaten by cheap.

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On 3/26/2020 at 10:46 PM, IronFilm said:

That's disappointing you don't think the Cinela Cosi is worth it :-/ 

It is a softie!

If it was doing everything, they wouldn't be selling any Pianissimos for double the price.

It is perfect for inside, because it is still very light and the boom op can swing it hard. ALL the boomen I had this year loved it, and we had many entrances from outside-inside that I would be affraid to use anything less, and you can use it outside too.

With some low cut it works great, but it is not a normal blimp. The trick is the air around the mic in blimps.

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13 hours ago, FranciscoB said:

Anyone has experience with the rycote baby ball ?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/745941-REG/Rycote_011007_Baby_Ball_Gag_Windshield.html

Was planning on this with a deadcat for a on camera mic.

I am using it with the Audio Technica 4025 and has been really good so far, better solution than a softie, as it creates the "blimp" effect, the size and shape can be problematic for camera placement. You need to hold the mic somehow too, it doesn't solve that problem, I am using it with the Rycote Lyre 7HGmkII, excellent product as well, but on a stick or a tripod. There is a similar Lyre for on-camera placement.

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