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3 hours ago, FoxAdriano said:

Hey friends, I recently bought the GH6 with Leica 12-60mm. Do you take away a curiosity? I make videos in 4K, 50p, 10bit, 4: 2: 2 only in V-Log and I thought not to buy a VND but an ND filter with only one lens, for example a Hoya PROND 3 stop. With the variable ND filter of 100-200 euros I fear the video image quality degrades too much. I like the good image quality. I only make quick documentaries, always outside on days with bright sun or lightly clouded skies. I shoot the daily life of the peoples. Does anyone use fixed ND or ..... do you absolutely recommend the VND? Thank you

ND is ALMOST always superior to VND, though I wouldn't go as far as to say even the worst ND is better than the best VND like webrunner5 would. VND are popular for their convenience, not their quality. That's not to say a good VND filter can't be good quality though. For the kind of work you describe I'd probably go with a VND so that you aren't having to switch filters all the time, which is a good way to miss shots. 

Depending on your budget there are a lot of options. NiSi has probably the best sub-$200 USD VND. The really cheap ones tend to have more color casting, though that can be fixed relatively easily. 

5 hours ago, kye said:

In fact, maybe a variable digital zoom might be possible?  Everyone knows that one of the best uses for high resolution cameras is cropping into the image, which was always deemed as cropping in post, but why not be cropping in-camera?  Sony has ClearImage Zoom, which is quite impressive, a competitor would be great

The JVC LS300 did it first and is/was one of my favorite things about it. You can put a prime lens on it and use the zoom rocker to turn it into a zoom lens. 

I think I get what they were going for (showing how flexible the footage is in post) but what a strange, extreme way of showing it. I guess they just thought subtly wouldn't get the point across? I felt like the greens were going to leap off the screen and slap me across the face! 

Every camera in my price range has a limitation that I wish wasn't there. It just so happens that the S5's limitations are the ones I can live with the most. Same with the GH5. 

I don't think getting rid of your Lumix cameras and going with a Canon set up makes you a Canon fanboy. I think it just means you're making the best choice based on your situation and needs. 

The funny thing for me is that out of everyone it might be Olympus that checks the most boxes for me right now. I'm just in no position to purchase 2 (or 3) OM-1 bodies even if they weren't backordered. Strange times, though! 

Honestly I don't care what camera you get. Get the FX3. Or don't. 

What you NEED to do, no matter what camera you end up with, is stick with it. Learn that camera until you can operate it with your eyes closed and I promise you'll be able to squeeze pretty much anything you could want out of it (within reason, of course!)

Learning your camera's strengths and weaknesses allows you to lean into and adapt to each one. Until very recently my main camera was a GH5, a 5 year old camera that is very flawed but also incredibly capable in the right hands. Out of necessity, because the GH5 isn't great in low light, I had to really learn lighting techniques. It was something I should've been doing all along, but the GH5 forced my hand. By being weak in low light the GH5 made me a better videographer. Those skills will stay with me no matter what camera I'm using 10 years from now. 

That's part of the journey. Embrace it. Even if there were a camera out there that could create the images you want with minimal effort, where's the fun in that? Where's the artistry? What sense of accomplishment would you feel? It's cliché, I know, but the camera is just a tool. You're the artist, so learn how to express your art with the tool you have! 

3 hours ago, tupp said:

Gunpowder!

She is missed 😞

18 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Not sure what the exact set of pro/cons of Canon trying to shoehorn a FF sensor into their EOS-M mount was, but clearly they didn't think it was going to be long term worth it. 

My guess is, given how few lenses there were to begin with, they probably figured it was better to just start from scratch.

7 hours ago, Trek of Joy said:

Don't forget there's also Active stabilization with the recent Sony's like the a7sIII and a7IV, which adds to IBIS with a slight crop, no catalyst browse needed. It's really, really good in most cases and easily as good as any other FF option and many times looks as good as the m43 standouts. If Sony is at the physical limits of stabilization because of the mount diameter, then digital options are the only options. 

I've used the A7Siii and I don't think it's as good as the S5's stabilization, but I'd have to do a side by side comparison to be sure. 

18 hours ago, TomTheDP said:

You mean due to it being full frame? The S1 is full frame but has really good IBIS. Of course the body is bigger but the mount is just as shallow on the S1 or close to it.

It's not the distance between the mount and the sensor, but the circular size of the mount itself. There's not a ton of room for the sensor to move left, right, up and down because the mount is so small. This limits how much the IBIS can work. I think they'd need a pretty substantial crop in order to get comparable results as Panny, Canon, and Nikon. 

I think this is why Sony has moved towards post-stabilization options with Catalyst Browse. 

15 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Sony's E Mount was never ever originally designed to be a FF format. (unlike Nikon Z, or Canon RF)

It was an APS-C design, for APS-C cameras, but they tried to cram a FF sensor into that APS-C lens mount! They 
"did" it, but left very little "wriggle room" for the IBIS to operate in. 

It was simultaneously a very smart and very dumb move to use the same mount for FF. It is more of a positive, but it'll probably be a long time and require a lot of processing power if they're ever going to catch up in the stabilization department. It's nice that they've offered an alternative with Catalyst Browse but it's not ideal.

I wonder if Fuji is having similar problems because of the mount size? I'm also curious why there has been such a drop off in AF performance since the X-T3 and whether the IBIS is responsible? 

4 hours ago, TomTheDP said:

I actually like Sony IBIS. It isn't rocky steady like the Panasonic but it looks natural. Makes the footage look like you are holding a heavier camera.

Everyone has their preferences, but to me Sony IBIS is almost pointless to have. It's one thing if you're just standing still since it'll eliminate most micro jitters but any actual movement looks pretty bad. I do wonder though if that's due to the size of the mount? 

28 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

When you look at their prices of some lenses at launch (when demand is high) vs a few years later, then it does seem they've got a fair bit of profit margin there still for themselves 🙂

That's common for pretty much everything though in the camera industry. They could in all honestly charge an extra $300 for this lense and it'd still be a bargain compared to every other option that isn't Tamron. It just feels like they go beyond trying to undercut others, that they genuinely just want to give their customers the best value. 

Very true, though I was curious if the wider angle might help! 

Sigma feels like a throwback in many ways, at least when it comes to business. I don't even feel like their prices are strictly to undercut the competition, because if that was their sole intention they could easily charge more and still be significantly cheaper than Sony, Canon, Panasonic, etc. I don't generally like to give corporations the benefit of the doubt, in fact I feel like doing so well inevitably result in being proven wrong, but it really doesn't feel like their sole goal is to make as much money as possible, no matter what. 

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I hate that most of the reviews are on Sony bodies. That doesn't really tell me much about two of the biggest things I want to know when making a purchase: how well does it play with Panasonic's IBIS (are the corner wobbles really bad?) and their AF in video. The only L-mount reviews I've found were people using it on Sigma cameras, unfortunately. 

On 5/31/2022 at 6:50 PM, Dan Wake said:

Hi, I'm still shooting with my old Canon 7D, and I'm looking for a new buy.

Does exist a camera with those features under 1k euros?

feature list: the camera don't overheat; at least "apsc size" sensor; the video is stabilized, zero colored moiré effect; compatible with vintage lenses; having a good codec able to recover darker areas in post producion (good for color grading).

 

which is it the price for such a camera?

thx for your attention 

The thing that stinks is that your specific combination is really only available in M43 in your price range. The R10 lacks stabilization, otherwise it would check most of those boxes if overheating ends up not being an issue (wait for people to get the camera and really put it through the ringer though.)

The Lumix S5 is a little more than you're looking to spend, but it's a huge jump up and is a bargain. It might be worth waiting until you can save up a little extra and get that?

For me this life style is as much about protecting my mental health than anything. There has to be more to life than work, and your work should be something that you enjoy. I tried working at a production company and it devastated my mental health. I just can't do it. 

3 hours ago, Video Hummus said:

I only see LUMIX surviving if they implement PDAF on par with Olympus or better. That is the bottom line. It's 2022 and every camera out there worth a damn is track focusing fairly well (except Fujifilm).

It's survival depends on a lot of things, but I agree that it needs PDAF to grow and thrive. The market spoke long ago, and it demands PDAF. 

Maybe photographers will buy this camera, but it really seems like it's more video centric. I think they think it'll appeal to the hybrid shooter and video focused user mode than photo. I could be wrong though! 

6 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

Sigma doesn’t work quite as well but is not terrible.

In fact it’s well above that and useable in most situations most of the time that are not intense forward tracking.

Good to know. The videos I saw would hunt back and forth excessively before getting focus. Maybe I will rent it when I have a gig that doesn't need AF, so if it works poorly I can still use it manually. 

The 24-105mm though is really appealing. It looks like it could be the one and done lens for my event work. Then for my other work I can get some primes and also use the kit lens. We'll see! 

36 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

Wow. What a world we live in! Even ARRI is loaning out their new camera release to YouTubers, harnessing the power of social media promotion. 

You expect this from Sony and Canon, but not ARRI. 

Shows the importance of social media marketing now at all levels!

I think because Potato Jet is a working DP he was invited and allowed to film. I'm not sure that they specifically invited him because he's notable YouTuber, but it wouldn't shock me either if he was. It seemed like a gathering with a lot of industry people as opposed to influencers, though. 

What's fascinating is all the stuff that happens before the debayering process. Is that something new? 

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

Really? Is it that bad? I'd have assumed at least within the L Mount Alliance that performance would be very good if you wanted to mix and match. 

From the videos I've watched they unfortunately don't work well in video mode when it comes to AF. They work great for photos, but the results in video reminded me of trying to use AF with a speedbooster on my GH5.

I was going to get the Sigma 28-70 but the results I saw were bad; I thought about renting it to see for myself but it feels like it'd be a waste of $90 or whatever dollars. Right now I'm using the kit lens and is quite a gem to be honest. I am looking at the Panny 24-105mm though, as F4 is more than enough for my sports and event work. 

Related: I really, really like the S5. I can't believe I got a lightly used one with a cage, 2 OEM batteries, and the kit lens for $1400. I highly recommend getting it, especially if you can find a deal. The image is so good. 

2 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

The Vast majority of people using a Fuji camera are using it in photo mode. Why would you want the added cost and bulk for that purpose.

The bulk of all video for normal people come from Smartphones. It is only weird people like us that shoot video on a camera..

I don't think this is a camera meant for photo people. 

Very informative video by Potato Jet. What a camera! 

I think putting the handles and matte box is as far as I'm going to go when it comes to trying to spiffy the camera up for clients. I'll add a monitor for functionality when I need it. To me, I want a compact, simple set up. I see "rig build" videos on YouTube and 90% of them are just way too much for me. 5 years ago I'd of had a totally different opinion, because I'd have been impressed and slightly jealous, but honestly the last thing I wanna do these days is spend more than 5 minutes setting up my camera rig and then have to lug this big thing around for a simple sit down talking head shoot or my friend blowing glass.

LUMIX S5 + cage + Panasonic XLR helmet + Azden SGM-250CX + SmallRig HSR2511 right grip with record trigger + NiceyRig left grip with Arri Rosette + Mini Matte Box Lite = enough!

6 hours ago, Jimbo said:

More impressive than the camera (which looks great) is that XF18-120mm. Parfocal, minimal breathing, weather-sealed, and a power zoom built into the lens!

I will never understand why more companies haven't done more power zooms. That lens sounds like a killer, even if it is a little bit on the slow side. Well worth it for a versatile lens that can do all of that.

4 hours ago, IronFilm said:

The FAN-001 calling accessory is an interesting idea. Acknowledging that under very hot conditions and long recording times, there will be issues. But also being ready with a solution for the user! An easy to integrate fan. 

I kind of agree, but also kinda just wish they'd build a fan straight into the camera. I get why they didn't, and I get that for MOST uses it will not be required, but it's just hard to get behind the idea of having to buy an external fan accessory to help with overheating.

3 hours ago, hoodlum said:

The video specs sound great but for run and gun it looks like Fuji is not there yet.

They are getting SO CLOSE, but I agree. There are just enough quirks still that make it hard to jump into the Fuji system. The big thing for me is they need updated lenses that can handle changes in exposure better. This new lens is definitely incredible, but what they've got out there right now aren't too good in this regard. That's a dealbreaker for me. The IBIS also doesn't look very good at all in video and seems more geared towards stills. My sports work needs good stabilization, because the cameras are so lightweight and small (+1 for the old heavy camcorders of yesteryear not needing stabilization because of how big and heavy they were!)

I love those Fuji colors so much though! I look forward to trying it anyway!

I saw this earlier and was a little confused. Does this replace the L-Mount Alliance or is it in addition to it? One thing they absolutely need to do, in addition to the AF (if only so we can stop hearing about it), is open up the mount to more third parties. I'd love to see Tamron make some L-mount lenses, for example. I think that is an underrated part of Sony's strategy. They went from a mount that had very few lenses to one that has the most robust, mature native lens lineup out of anyone. Part of that is obviously because they got a head start, but also because you've got so many companies now making lenses for the mount that work really well with the cameras, from Sigma to even small Chinese companies like Viltrox. Contrast that with the L-Mount Alliance, where it's pointless to even try using autofocus with Sigma lenses on Panasonic bodies.

3 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Not surprising to me that Blackmagic refuses to fix a camera when it is a day older than 12 months. They are an awful company to deal with if you have a problem. They will throw it back to you and sometimes even put the blame on you. That's just my experience but heard similar from a lot of other people as well.

I've heard similar, though they were very easy to deal with when my OG BMPCC stopped working. They had me send it in, emailed me that they'd fix it for free, a week passed, and a brand new camera complete in shrink wrap arrived instead. But they were a much smaller company back then.