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You're probably right in terms of marketing a better IBIS because that would be something that people care about and would help to sell cameras.
More generally, I still don't think you can rely on marketing.  Firstly, there are potentially large numbers of individual changes from model to model of a camera line, not all of which will get attention.  Marketing treads a delicate balance between saying the new camera is awesome because it is so much better than the other ones on offer, and implying that the other ones are so much worse than the new one, especially when an improvement can be seen as fixing some kind of deficiency instead of just adding on awesomeness.  
Someone recently started a thread about the IBIS noise being picked up by the internal microphones in the G/GX ranges (IIRC) and someone else pointed out that the GH5 has added internal microphones to cancel out that noise from the internal mics, which was a feature that some people hadn't heard about.  My guess was that this kind of thing probably wouldn't be marketed because it's fixing a flaw in other models that they really don't want to highlight, despite the fix costing money and being of some benefit to customers.
In terms of why they might innovate without a need, it could be that they buy parts in huge volumes to get sustainable prices and after running out of the IBIS motors or controllers or whatever and when they did the next bulk purchase they could only buy the next model up because the old one was discontinued, so the decision to upgrade was made for them.  Or the new features were available in a newer firmware in that chipset (and they hadn't allowed updating of that chipset in the previous models).  Or they had to upgrade a part due to physical size, power consumption, pin layout (to enable different circuitboard layouts) or any number of other reasons.
People tend to underestimate how complicated technology actually is.  If we were to take the drive-train of a car (without the computer chips) and draw it out in a kind of functional diagram, you could fit it on a large sheet of paper, if we included all the switches and controls for indicators and heated seats and power windows in a luxury car then it might be the size of a small wall in your house.  If we did the same for something like a laptop computer or digital camera (they're going to look roughly the same) the writing would be so small that it probably wouldn't be readable even if you made the diagram the size of the field in a sports stadium.
How they build electronic devices is also a strange process.  People think of it like they start designing a product, then they work out all the features, then they buy the bits and put them al together to do that.  It's not like that.  It's a massive shit fight between the marketing and design departments who want to offer every new feature imaginable requiring new parts and redesigns, the engineering department who want to add no new features but make it robust and reliable requiring better parts without a redesign, the accounting department who wants to make it the cheapest possible by buying older cheaper parts in bulk, senior management who are concerned with how their product is or isn't compatible with competitors products, all in an environment where the companies who make products are trying to do secret deals with the parts manufacturers to give them great deals on new parts but block the other companies from buying the best and latest chips.  Add onto that the football-pitch sized complexity of what they're building and the ripple-effect of how changing one part can mean that other parts also need to be changed, potentially then needing further changes in other parts.  This includes interconnectedness of other products which might already be on sale like lenses and memory cards and flashes etc.
And after all that, companies like Nikon are known for implementing support for features well ahead of the time of launch.  IIRC they released some kind of lens functionality which was previously unavailable but it was supported on camera bodies that had been selling for years - so those camera bodies had features that were sitting there waiting for the lenses to be released, so you not only have to ensure compatibility with current features but perhaps future features as well.  It's a huge mess basically, so marketing isn't really a reliable source for all that stuff.

I just wanted to share with you my latest music video shot on Ursa and Pocket 4k + Zeiss Cp3 + Black ProMist (how Can i embed a video here : ) ? )
https://vimeo.com/309293561

Not a technical comparison, but these guys saved me the time to do my own testing months ago. Haven't looked back since ?
 

Completely agree. Personally, I think a sexier design and the help of an influencer or two would have skyrocketed this camera's success.

I shot an interview last night with the Pocket 4K and GH5s in Film mode and HLG respectively. They match pretty well after only a few minutes in Premiere tweaking them. I'm excited to see the difference that Resolve will make. 

I shot an interview last night with the Pocket 4K and GH5s in Film mode and HLG respectively. They match pretty well after only a few minutes in Premiere tweaking them. I'm excited to see the difference that Resolve will make. 

Oh that that where the only bug in that project.
Have a look at Duet.
I use mine with the Mountie clip system that attaches it to the side of the laptop screen but any old stand will do.
They have recently fixed the issues they had with Mojave.
 

As I say, they've recently updated it in the past few weeks to fix issues they had with Mojave so a lot of it will be related to those previous problems.
I have not switched to Mojave so can't comment but I'm on High Sierra 10.13.5 and it works fine for me with the latest version installed.
It even gives me a Touch Bar emulation at a cheaper price than upgrading my MBP
With regard to price, it is a one off price for the regular version ($20-ish) and a subscription add on for the pro version which lets you use the iPad as a digitiser.
I use it in a few different ways, depending on what I'm up to.
In FCP-X I have the iPad Pro handling the interface and the MBP full screen as the picture monitor. 
For work, I will be editing pictures on the MBP and use the iPad Pro to view and control the FTP application so I can keep an eye on the transmission of the pictures to the agency without having to swap applications. As Duet works with any iOS device (and the one off payment covers you to use it on all the devices linked to your Apple account) then I tend to use an iPhone more than an iPad for that as it saves space and is an appropriate screen size for a smaller application.
There are other similar products out there though so have a look around.
 

Yep, a monitor is a must for many reasons. This camera can be used as it is, but most times it will need additional accessories. I will always suggest a SmallHD Focus, smallest and brightest solution.
If you do not care about brightness, one of the cheap 5.5" copy cats will do.

I just got the Aputure LensRegain for my Pocket 4K. Will report back when I've done some testing. I already have the Metabones XL and Viltrox and I love them. I got the LensRegain for a lightweight remote focus solution for my shoulder rig. Initial testing has been very good.

I believe they do subconsciously. 
They might not be able to articulate it though, as they don't have our trained filmmaker's eye.
 
a) diminishing returns apply
b) how do you define "10X better"??

Let's make up some random simple numbers as a basic example:

A company sells $40,000,000 of a product each year with a 25% profit margin on that. 
They predict if they spend $10K on an advert and $400K on the advertising spend for that advert that then they'll see a 10% lift in sales in the coming year.
Should they do this? Of course they should! It will lead to millions of dollars in extra profit. 

Now what if they predict they'll get a 20% lift in sales with the $100K advert? (with the same $400K advertising spend. Although... often this budget would be larger too, to go along with the pricier video budget itself. But hey, I'm not pulling this example from any real life figures, and I'm just keeping the figures simple)
You might say "But David, they're only seeing a 2X improvement for a 10X increase in production cost!!" 
However I'd suggest you stop and re-think this, you don't need have the video be anywhere near "10X better" for it to be worthwhile to spend 10X more on the video shoot. 

Rather instead if the client believes these figures (of a 2X improvement on their sales volume increase vs the $10K video) then this is an obvious no brainier decision they should make to spend $100K on the video. 
 

Yeah, I have fond memories, but if the portfolio I've spent 10 years on isn't guaranteed safe, it leaves me little choice but to do something about it! I mean, an online video channel is so key to what we do... Always has been... If it were to disappear randomly one night in the blink of an eye because Vimeo's CEO doesn't have her eye on the ball, it'll be a disaster for me and for EOSHD, the blog.
Whatever I think of Vimeo in 2018 and what it has changed to become, it all comes down to that really.
I'd rather stay and enjoy the community there... Maybe from a safer distance, from now on.
I also really like that YouTube makes an effort to explain their DMCA stuff in a more friendly way and in plenty of detail. The first I knew of Vimeo's policy was a big warning message flashing up saying my account was an inch away from obliteration

I am upset there is no pop up flash. For a camera that has stills capability this is a bad decision for a camera at this price point and will put off many buyers. They have not included an EVF to make it more familiar to people who transition from a mobile phone but why then do they not make it go in a pocket like a mobile phone but then lie to everyone and say it's a pocket camera? It's easy for them to give away software as it doesn't cost anything to make and doesn't add any weight to the camera but why do I need software to use this camera when other cameras work fine without it? Also there is no lens with the camera so that is an extra item you will have to buy and I don't see this mentioned in any of the videos. If BM don't make lenses then they shouldn't be selling cameras to people as this is like selling a car to someone without wheels. It seems BM do not care about customers who haven't got a clue.

I agree.
Lots of people are saying "this 4K RAW isn't that much better than our best H264 cameras, how disappointing" when I think they should be saying "wow, our H264 cameras weren't completely put to shame by this 4K RAW camera, how things have changed since the BMPCC, and aren't we spoiled for choice now!".
I totally agree.
I watched the 2012 Zacuto camera challenge recently (doing it blind as they suggested) and ended up putting the cameras in three tiers, which I found out afterwards were basically sorting them by price!  The only exception to that was the F65 which I placed in the middle tier instead of the top tier because I didn't like the grade.
I think there are two ways to properly execute a camera comparison - set the cameras to their flattest profile and show the files untouched out of the camera having only done a WB, or use a colour checker and have the NLE grade it for you using the full checker so it can linearise the luminance and adjust primaries and all that stuff.  Otherwise, like you say, we're evaluating their grade and not the camera.
Has anyone compared the P4K to the BMPCC by downscaling the P4K to 1080 and then comparing?  Sharpness and resolution have a lot to do with things being cinematic...

Well guys, as someone who has it, (and works professionally with cameras) I can tell you I love it! That’s it, it’s a beautiful piece of technology and even though I haven’t had time to shoot something bigger than a few ProRes clips in the evenings before bed I totally adore the images it produce. I’m very excited for my 8sinn cage and T5 holder to arrive next week as I have 2 days off to really get to know the camera! 

I haven't watched any BMPCC4K footage yet. No videos, no test, no reviews, no nothing. All ive seen is the thumbnails in this thread. Never pressed play.
Because I was afraid it would spark an unbelievable case of G.A.S. And I was so proud of myself for canceling my preorder (was among the first in line).
Then I decided to download the tif-file above. Playing with it in Lightroom was ok. Feels like a decent image. Until you realize its a video frame... wow!
The quality is pretty darn crazy. The noise is.. not there. Mind officially blown.

Lol at the BMD sub-forum getting renamed. 

Good for you

Oh I'm in complete agreement with you. The allegation was nothing more than an unsubstantiated Facebook post. I wasn't taking sides; I simply did not know such a post existed.

Just received my Pocket 4K, incidentally the day following receiving my XT-3.
Got a wedding to shoot on Saturday so good timing.
 

Holy crap they just charged mine as well! Thank you for the heads up.  

Holy crap they just charged mine as well! Thank you for the heads up.  

Holy crap they just charged mine as well! Thank you for the heads up.  

B&H just charged my card!!!!

Hey Guys !
Here it is ! I just picked it up at Photocineshop in Paris  I was the first in queue, I called them monday, they told me they expected it mid october. But I received a call today telling me it's here so... They received only 3 cameras. They ordered 75 and have 60 in queue. Funny story, the guy at the counter told me the boss was mad at him because the boss wanted to keep the first ones for rent (it's also a big rental company) and not fulfilling the first orders ! I think I have the first retail version in France ( I know it's a lame sentence !)
I'll try to shoot something decent tomorrow and put it online the same day ! But I only have relatively fast SD cards. I just need to sell a kidney for a CFAST on which I'll be able to record 12 seconds of RAW footage :)))
I can't wait to test the dynamic range and the battery life of the camera, my two biggest concerns.