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That’s some of the best footage I’ve seen out of any camera. 

1 hour ago, crevice said:Their Facebook groups and forums are littered with attack memes toward other brands, horrible amateur videos of their girlfriends in slow motion with crappy LUTs, and 98 percent of the posts are about some creative way to try and rig the atrociuous bodies of the pocket line. Most of them have never been on an actual shoot. I mean, just look at their groups over the last 24 hours, people are freaking out about the URSA being expensive at $10k, which just shows they have no idea what the real value of a cinema camera is. This all adds up to a brand image and amazing camera or not, Blackmagic have an image of a cheap brand that shots good video for amateur filmmakers on a budget and Arri and RED are for high end work. Its going to take a lot of work for Blackmagic to turn that around. 

That’s in all the groups I’ve visited. Each group has a set of “patriotic” members who bash other cameras, make tree and backyard videos with their small tilta wooden rig , theorize on what if’s  and no real footage.

I agree that the body should be a bit more durable and maybe they should have made it more sensor in a box, but the camcorder body is a proven design conducive to out of the box filming. In addition 

Grant said that this release is for the high end and all we can do now is watch what happens with this camera. 

25 minutes ago, Super8 said:

The 12K footage looks good but not better than Arri, RED or Canon.    It still looks like BM color science.

BM has a brand problem.  No big studio has to move away from RED or Arri.   The incentive to do so is not their unless the image quality is better.

BM has also shown the flaws of it's lower line up.

I agree with the brand name problem, but you can say that about any of the brands not Arri or RED and regarding the image quality comparison, that’s highly subjective. 

Y’all should read johnbrawley.wordpress.com 

it answers a lot of the assumptions in this thread. 

1 hour ago, Danyyyel said:

That's a joke, what pro's will burden themselves on 12k.

🙋🏾‍♂️

Just now, hijodeibn said:

my understanding is that Komodo will be around $6K, which is a lot less than the new Blackmagic, where did you get that the final price is $8K?

Yes for the regular black, but the stormtrooper is 7 then cfast cards (certified approved) and then the tax. Also people are going to buy other parts to build a proper rig, which the average comes to over a G.

While the BM comes with their “award winning” shoulder style design and camcorder body ideal for hand held work. 

With the order I’m doing for the Komodo it comes out to the same price as the BM12K with taxes. 

28 minutes ago, hijodeibn said:

I honestly doubt the new Blackmagic is going to damage Red Komodo market, the new RED has the most compressed codec in the market, so less store needed meaning less money in disks, also will have autofocus (if it is close to DPAF it is a winner), and in a smaller package, so I can use it in gimbals, drones, etc, it is going to be the perfect B or C camera for big productions, and many people also would use it to jump into RED train.

After canon R's overheating disaster I am now waiting for the Komodo presentation, and the new Sony of course, anyway, the niche for this Blackmagic camera is going to be very specific, and clearly 99% of the people in this forum is not going to invest on it.

I’m a prospective StormTrooper buyer and to say  that this announcement doesn’t throw a kink or doesn’t spill over into RED’s Komodo market is probably a mistake. Yes I agree with the Komodo being a perfect B/C cam and a entryway into RED, but with  $2k more you have a future proof (5-6 years) of high quality A cam capability! I’m quite sure there are plenty Komodo line standers thinking about investing into this ecosystem. 

When can we expect a full frame or bigger Varicam?

Man oh man I am more confused than ever. I just received the final email back to confirm my purchase for the Komodo, but this news comes out. Smfh.
 

I’m usually very confident with my camera purchasing decisions, but this has me going through a constant loop of what ifs.

Please can someone help me make sense of this decision. Should I go with the Komodo or get this GFX100 now with Pro Res Raw capability. Smfh. 

Not really exciting news for me, especially since there are very good cameras out now with similar specs. As of this moment Sony isn’t even on my radar for cameras, at least the mirrorless’s. If I was going to pick up a Sony camera it’ll be the FX9. Other than that, I’ll pass. 

Great read and very inspiring! It makes me want to go out and film. I gotta subscribe to this magazine. 

@IronFilm I definitely agree with you on a wait and see approach with the Komodo, but I believe global shutters are just going to get better with the proper development behind it. With companies like RED pushing this technology, it’ll certainly invite other big manufacturers to enter the foray. 

I watched the film on my 50inch plus tv and it looked beautiful! After a few minutes I totally forgot it was filmed with the fp. 

21 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

Yeah, its all about perception.

The HC500 is £3100 so the caddy at £354 is more than 10% of the cost of the whole camera for what appears to be an M.2 to USB-C interface in a plastic case!

But if they'd just made the camera £3400 and included the caddy then I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid because its still great value for money.

Separating it out like that just makes it seem like a colossal rip off.

Even if they didn’t include it but at least lower the price. I think it would be more acceptable if it was $150. Still I think using the M.2 format for storage is very forward thinking and you know they will implement that in a new cinema camera, if they ever decide to make one. 
 

@IronFilm I think global shutter cameras are good and RED are doing some things with the Komodo that should make this type of sensor more prominent. They squeezed out some DR with that global shutter. 

@BTM_Pix lol I thought the same thing too when I noticed the price of the caddy! My eyes literally bulged as i gasped. That caddy must hold the physical key to unlock pro Res lol. Certainly that’s an oversight JVC didn’t realize. Or did they?

Thank you all! I’m truly grateful for your congratulations! It’s been a challenging two years balancing family life and grabbing footage, then trying to edit while your children run rampant around you. Also can’t forget my wife needs...... But it was worthwhile! Now I am kind of known in the industry and have been receiving requests from other “street legends” for me to tell their story. 
 

Regarding JVC’s new cameras, they have awesome specs and I’m tempting to try it out, but I’m not really a fan of cameras with small sensors like that. However I truly enjoy the concept of the M.2 drive used to capture Pro Res! It’s definitely forward thinking and super cost affordable. I am truly hopeful that they are developing a new cinema camera. Maybe we can email them and remind them about that survey they had a few months back asking what we want in a cinema camera. We can tell them that we’re ready for it! lol 

I’m not really a fan of RED because of some questionable business practices, but I’m warming up to the Komodo. This is now on my list of things to purchase. So it’s either the Komodo, the Canon CN-E 18-80mm T4.4 COMPACT-SERVO Cinema Zoom Lens (EF Mount) or the GFX 100. In the next few weeks I will be sure on my next investment. 

The images out that camera looks incredible! I don’t know too much about this specific model, but after seeing those images I’m going to do some research. Truly wonderful images!

Thanks for this information! I’m going to check it out. I like Sigma and would like to know more about the Foveon sensor technology. 

3 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

That's awesome, congratulations!!

Great JVC have started trying to promote this camera... took a while.

I very appreciative of your congratulations! Hopefully this will reinvigorate this very capable company! To tell the truth I’m a big supporter of their tools and I want people to consider them a “name brand” in this cinema camera space! 

I’m very grateful to be connected with JVC! They posted an interview they did with me on their IG profile talking about my film Marcy Made and how it was filmed with the JVC-GYLS300!

My bad I won’t post anymore links to those mentioned. Hope you accept my apology. 

@deezid it looks clean, but still video-ish. And I’m seeing a tint on it. That must be whatever ND filter that is on it. I don’t think I’m impressed with the Komodo.......yet. To think I’m so ready to invest in a new camera system and I haven’t done so especially with the plethora out there. Maybe I’m not ready as I think. 🙁

@Andrew Reid definitely crap specs. I would flirt with interest if they even had the basic 4k specs and at least 8 bit 422, but this is just a no for me. They must have a super weak processor in their cameras. 

Idk if this is even as important for most users here, but Hasselblad is noticing that video is an important aspect of cameras even if the specs are a bit underwhelming