BTM_Pix

Just been asked to leave John Lewis midway through hacking their LX15.
Was able to handshake it and fake the connection but they pounced as I was about to hit Deploy!
I'd already set the alarm off doing their GX800. Status on that was that it took the Deploy command without error but called up the Standard profile.However, the lighting in their was so poor and I had to be so quick that I wasn't able to do full compares to the real Standard profile to see if it was actually Cinelike D. 
So file that one under potentially possibly maybe until I have another opportunity. 
I'm intrigued by getting it on to their small cameras, particularly the travel zoom ones.

The Enable element is purely to tell the smartphone app from the camera which options to show the user so, yes, in virtually all cases it means the camera will only action return commands that match its enabled list. Its use for this purpose is to be able to collect the (usually) type and value parameters for the setsetting function.
As I said earlier in the thread, you should see that that particular command you sent did actually have an effect of sorts in that it will have put the camera into 4k24p mode as unless it is a rate based on a different region (i.e. you'd sent mp4ed_30p_200mbps) then it will accept them but revert to its uppermost setting.
Vlog is unlikely but, again, if you got hold of a rev 2.2 or 2.3 GH4 and found that particular Android version of the ImageApp that enabled Vlog to be activated for 'free' then you could packet capture a session between the two to see exactly what the command was. I don't know anyone with that rev of GH4 but if you do then the version of the ImageApp you'd need is floating around on some dropbox links if you google hard enough for it. But my suspicion is that because the GX80 etc post date Panasonic closing that loophole in both the camera and the ImageApp then it wouldn't work anyway. The long shot would be it possibly working on an LX100 but considering what that does when it receives the Cinelike D command its far from certain it would work properly.

If you're after vintage, cheap, big constant aperture zoom range and parfocal then have a look at some B4 stuff.
I got this Angenieux for the LS300 as I needed it for the press conference stuff I do but obviously with it now being MFT mount I put it on the GX80 for a laugh!
Its 8.7mm f1.7 with a 15x zoom.
With the GX80 you have to deploy the internal doubler on the lens to get the image to fill the frame so its then 18mm-ish and f2.8 but the LS300 just laughs at that kind of behaviour and uses its VSM to scale it so you don't need the doubler. And it then makes it a 30x zoom by using its Prime Zoom function as well !
£200 for the lens, £70 for the adapter and about £50 for the battery plate, cable and Sony NP battery to power the servo zoom.
It is ever so slightly unbalanced on the GX80 obviously !
I'll put a bit of footage up of it when I get a chance if anyone is interested.
 

Just been asked to leave John Lewis midway through hacking their LX15.
Was able to handshake it and fake the connection but they pounced as I was about to hit Deploy!
I'd already set the alarm off doing their GX800. Status on that was that it took the Deploy command without error but called up the Standard profile.However, the lighting in their was so poor and I had to be so quick that I wasn't able to do full compares to the real Standard profile to see if it was actually Cinelike D. 
So file that one under potentially possibly maybe until I have another opportunity. 
I'm intrigued by getting it on to their small cameras, particularly the travel zoom ones.

Sorry I was writing a big reply when you posted that so completely missed it
Nice one
That's a TZ100 in the UK isn't it?

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I was able to apply Cinelike D to my zs100 and it appears to be working, it's very close to my GX85 although not 100%, maybe due to the smaller sensor.

I just tried this on my zs100 and it appears to work as well.  I can't confirm 100% but the profile appears more flat than the flat settings I was using.  I can also confirm that the latest GX85 firmware update works fine with this.  
One thing to mention, if you have your camera in C1, C2, C3 setting when you apply this, it will only apply the profile to that C setting and leave all other settings as is.

Though not motion, I  put a post on the first page of two frame grabs from footage recorded with Cinelike D on both the GX80 and the G7.
To my eye they show identical handling of the same scene. Only to my eye though so there may be some on much closer inspection but I think for all practical purposes they are the same.
I don't know the exact family relationship senso and processor wise between the GX80 and the G7 so any small differences between the performance of Cinelike D on both are likely attributable to that.
Its impossible to do a direct comparison between what official Cinelike D would look like on the GX80 of course as there is no official one but just to stress that no other parameters were harmed in the making of the hack. 
I agree that I would love to hear from people who have implemented it to see what difference if any its made to their output and any difference they've had to make to their workflow either capture or post to accommodate it.
I'd be particularly interested if anyone has a Cinelike D based LUT to see that it maps across as expected.

Using the ruse of wanting to "compare its wifi control to my FZ1000"  , I spent a few minutes packet capturing an FZ2000 app session in a camera store earlier to get some examples of it sending the 100 and 200mbps 1080p setting to the camera.
The commands were formed exactly as I was expecting them to be so confirms my findings that although the camera will accept them it won't properly action them but it will change to 4K24p instead. This is a different behaviour to when you send an outright "illegal" setting (i.e. a PAL rate when its in NTSC region and vice versa) where it returns an error. Whether it simply reverts to its uppermost setting when given a request that it doesn't reject but can't find an actual match for I don't know but the end result is the same in that it doesn't get us anywhere.
With regard to the LX100, the Cinelike D and V are acting almost completely the reverse to how you would expect them to in that it massively saturates the colour! However, it also completely and I mean completely canes the black level. I've got a hunch that with the LX100 being such a close relative of the GH4 that there might be something involving an interaction with the master pedestal level and/or the luma level which are changeable on the GH4 but not on the LX100. If someone who has an LX100 could try this and see what you think. It might be correctable with changing a combination of the saturation/contrast/shadow/highlight controls to bring it into line and if it is then it shouldn't be an issue for the Deploy function to combine the string of changes into one click.
I stress might though !
And I can't look at anything to do with this for the next four or five days at least now while I'm away doing the day job assignment so don't hold your breath.

I think I mentioned earlier in the thread but those are messages from the camera to the app to tell it what items to give the user access to.
Its one piece of the puzzle in that you can still construct set commands based on them (or estimates of what they will be) but the camera will not necessarily action them and you will generally get an "err_parameter" message in your browser.
An example of this would be to send :
http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoquality&value=mp4ed_c24p_100mbps_c4K
Sending this will be actioned by Panasonic cameras that have the functionality enabled but won't be by those that won't.
In this respect, it is pure good fortune that although Cinelike D and V are not enabled in the app the camera will actually activate them if we send it the commands.
There are other examples such as the ISO50000 mode and 23 point AF mode that aren't listed but I was able to get working.
You will also see this selective rejection when you have the camera in PAL mode, you can send it NTSC based formats such as 1080p60 but it will reject them.
If you then boot the camera using the multi button diagnostic mode into NTSC region you will be able to send them and it will action them.
We can only presume that Panasonic had it in mind to have Cinelike D and V in the GX80 and left it in there.
Something unusual happens when you tell it to go into one of the high bitrate 1080p modes in that it switches to 4K24p so its not entirely rejecting it but its also not doing it either.
Again, I'll say that the LX100 is doing something odd with the Cinelike commands so there might be something worth tinkering with there.
For now, I'm only concentrating on looking at command stuff for my hardware box (which is all I was originally intending to be tinkering with this stuff for anyway before I uncovered the Cinlike thing!) so hopefully now so many of you are using this you might all find some new stuff with your own experiments.

I think I mentioned earlier in the thread but those are messages from the camera to the app to tell it what items to give the user access to.
Its one piece of the puzzle in that you can still construct set commands based on them (or estimates of what they will be) but the camera will not necessarily action them and you will generally get an "err_parameter" message in your browser.
An example of this would be to send :
http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoquality&value=mp4ed_c24p_100mbps_c4K
Sending this will be actioned by Panasonic cameras that have the functionality enabled but won't be by those that won't.
In this respect, it is pure good fortune that although Cinelike D and V are not enabled in the app the camera will actually activate them if we send it the commands.
There are other examples such as the ISO50000 mode and 23 point AF mode that aren't listed but I was able to get working.
You will also see this selective rejection when you have the camera in PAL mode, you can send it NTSC based formats such as 1080p60 but it will reject them.
If you then boot the camera using the multi button diagnostic mode into NTSC region you will be able to send them and it will action them.
We can only presume that Panasonic had it in mind to have Cinelike D and V in the GX80 and left it in there.
Something unusual happens when you tell it to go into one of the high bitrate 1080p modes in that it switches to 4K24p so its not entirely rejecting it but its also not doing it either.
Again, I'll say that the LX100 is doing something odd with the Cinelike commands so there might be something worth tinkering with there.
For now, I'm only concentrating on looking at command stuff for my hardware box (which is all I was originally intending to be tinkering with this stuff for anyway before I uncovered the Cinlike thing!) so hopefully now so many of you are using this you might all find some new stuff with your own experiments.

I think I mentioned earlier in the thread but those are messages from the camera to the app to tell it what items to give the user access to.
Its one piece of the puzzle in that you can still construct set commands based on them (or estimates of what they will be) but the camera will not necessarily action them and you will generally get an "err_parameter" message in your browser.
An example of this would be to send :
http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoquality&value=mp4ed_c24p_100mbps_c4K
Sending this will be actioned by Panasonic cameras that have the functionality enabled but won't be by those that won't.
In this respect, it is pure good fortune that although Cinelike D and V are not enabled in the app the camera will actually activate them if we send it the commands.
There are other examples such as the ISO50000 mode and 23 point AF mode that aren't listed but I was able to get working.
You will also see this selective rejection when you have the camera in PAL mode, you can send it NTSC based formats such as 1080p60 but it will reject them.
If you then boot the camera using the multi button diagnostic mode into NTSC region you will be able to send them and it will action them.
We can only presume that Panasonic had it in mind to have Cinelike D and V in the GX80 and left it in there.
Something unusual happens when you tell it to go into one of the high bitrate 1080p modes in that it switches to 4K24p so its not entirely rejecting it but its also not doing it either.
Again, I'll say that the LX100 is doing something odd with the Cinelike commands so there might be something worth tinkering with there.
For now, I'm only concentrating on looking at command stuff for my hardware box (which is all I was originally intending to be tinkering with this stuff for anyway before I uncovered the Cinlike thing!) so hopefully now so many of you are using this you might all find some new stuff with your own experiments.

Yes, you just have to modify the html file so that when you hit 'Deploy' it takes you to B&H Website where you can then buy a GH5
 

I think I mentioned earlier in the thread but those are messages from the camera to the app to tell it what items to give the user access to.
Its one piece of the puzzle in that you can still construct set commands based on them (or estimates of what they will be) but the camera will not necessarily action them and you will generally get an "err_parameter" message in your browser.
An example of this would be to send :
http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=videoquality&value=mp4ed_c24p_100mbps_c4K
Sending this will be actioned by Panasonic cameras that have the functionality enabled but won't be by those that won't.
In this respect, it is pure good fortune that although Cinelike D and V are not enabled in the app the camera will actually activate them if we send it the commands.
There are other examples such as the ISO50000 mode and 23 point AF mode that aren't listed but I was able to get working.
You will also see this selective rejection when you have the camera in PAL mode, you can send it NTSC based formats such as 1080p60 but it will reject them.
If you then boot the camera using the multi button diagnostic mode into NTSC region you will be able to send them and it will action them.
We can only presume that Panasonic had it in mind to have Cinelike D and V in the GX80 and left it in there.
Something unusual happens when you tell it to go into one of the high bitrate 1080p modes in that it switches to 4K24p so its not entirely rejecting it but its also not doing it either.
Again, I'll say that the LX100 is doing something odd with the Cinelike commands so there might be something worth tinkering with there.
For now, I'm only concentrating on looking at command stuff for my hardware box (which is all I was originally intending to be tinkering with this stuff for anyway before I uncovered the Cinlike thing!) so hopefully now so many of you are using this you might all find some new stuff with your own experiments.

Glad you had the "Appetite" for it and that it worked out "Bonny"

Works great on my Gx80..thanks BTM_PIX!

Figured it all out after BTM_Pix's detailed instructions! Thanks for helping to take the time to troubleshoot and share this hack.

OK, I've got a camera in front of me now, so I'll give you the exact steps
1) Press Menu button on the camera
2) Go to the Setup menu
3) Navigate to WiFi
4) Select WiFi Function
5) Select New Connection  -- (This may be where its gone wrong as you may have  been using your previous phone connection )
6) Select Remote Shooting & View
7) Camera screen will now be showing the Wifi glowing beacon thing
8) Choose the SSID ID it is showing on the camera (Should be GX80-blah blah) to connect your phone or laptop to
9) Camera will show message saying 'If you have not launched the smartphone application.....' message
10) Load the html page into the browser of your phone or laptop
11) Select 'Handshake'
12) The browser will now display 'ok,GX80-xxxxx,remote,encrypted' (the xxxxxx will be your specific GX80 ID)
13) Hit 'Back' on your browser
14) Select 'Connect'
15) The browser will now display 'OK' and the camera will display 'Under Remote Control'
16) Wait until you see the live view image on the camera LCD
17) Hit 'Back' on your browser
18) Select 'Deploy Cinelike D'
19) The browser will now display 'OK'
20) On the camera display, the picture style will not be displayed (top left next to the Mode indicator)
21) To restore Standard profiles, hit 'Back' on your browser and select 'Restore'
22) The browser will now display 'OK' and on the camera display, the STD picture style will be displayed (top left next to the Mode indicator)
23) Repeat 17-22 to switch between enabling and disabling Cinelike D
 
If it does NOT connect the first time, then just let it time out and repeat from the top. Once it has successfully connected it will store the connection and from thereon in will connect first time every time.
By the way, just to be absolutely clear, the quote of mine that you've used there relates to a different conversation regarding trying to guess at additional commands to get them working.
It has nothing to do with what I've shared regarding the Cinelike D stuff as rest assured I would not share something without testing that it didn't break my own camera first.
OK, well that sounds like if you got the handshake going then the camera is timing out, dropping its wifi transmission and your phone is falling back to a different wifi network and giving the 404 error because its connected to the internet while the page is referring to the address of the camera.
This is a positive sign as it should mean if you start the process again, the connection will have been registered and you'll be able to get through on the next attempt.

You can change those in the camera as per the original profiles
Although the name of the profile appears blank if you select it in Menu>Photo Style and then cursor down you can change the contrast, saturation,NR an ld sharpness.
Changed parameters persist on reboot and if stored in C1 etc 
 

Yes, its changeable in camera like the other profiles and the changes are persistent on power off and when stored in C1 etc 
 

With the GX85 now having Cinelike D, a used one and a used BM Video Assist from B&H could be your friend if you only want 1080p for <$1000? 
Better monitoring, edit ready ProRes etc 
A real pity the smaller VA doesn't have XLR inputs like the bigger one as it would be a great combo.
Although if you put up another $200 you could pair it with the G85.....

They were my instructions to be fair but no matter, we got there in the end!

OK, I've got a camera in front of me now, so I'll give you the exact steps
1) Press Menu button on the camera
2) Go to the Setup menu
3) Navigate to WiFi
4) Select WiFi Function
5) Select New Connection  -- (This may be where its gone wrong as you may have  been using your previous phone connection )
6) Select Remote Shooting & View
7) Camera screen will now be showing the Wifi glowing beacon thing
8) Choose the SSID ID it is showing on the camera (Should be GX80-blah blah) to connect your phone or laptop to
9) Camera will show message saying 'If you have not launched the smartphone application.....' message
10) Load the html page into the browser of your phone or laptop
11) Select 'Handshake'
12) The browser will now display 'ok,GX80-xxxxx,remote,encrypted' (the xxxxxx will be your specific GX80 ID)
13) Hit 'Back' on your browser
14) Select 'Connect'
15) The browser will now display 'OK' and the camera will display 'Under Remote Control'
16) Wait until you see the live view image on the camera LCD
17) Hit 'Back' on your browser
18) Select 'Deploy Cinelike D'
19) The browser will now display 'OK'
20) On the camera display, the picture style will not be displayed (top left next to the Mode indicator)
21) To restore Standard profiles, hit 'Back' on your browser and select 'Restore'
22) The browser will now display 'OK' and on the camera display, the STD picture style will be displayed (top left next to the Mode indicator)
23) Repeat 17-22 to switch between enabling and disabling Cinelike D
 
If it does NOT connect the first time, then just let it time out and repeat from the top. Once it has successfully connected it will store the connection and from thereon in will connect first time every time.
By the way, just to be absolutely clear, the quote of mine that you've used there relates to a different conversation regarding trying to guess at additional commands to get them working.
It has nothing to do with what I've shared regarding the Cinelike D stuff as rest assured I would not share something without testing that it didn't break my own camera first.
OK, well that sounds like if you got the handshake going then the camera is timing out, dropping its wifi transmission and your phone is falling back to a different wifi network and giving the 404 error because its connected to the internet while the page is referring to the address of the camera.
This is a positive sign as it should mean if you start the process again, the connection will have been registered and you'll be able to get through on the next attempt.

You don't need to use the Panasonic app, its all done through your browser.
1) Turn the wifi function on on the camera
2) In your wifi settings on the phone, connect to the camera. (NB Depending on how easy it is to load html files from a file on your particular phone, it might be easier to use a computer but there's no reason it won't work with a phone browser)
3) Load the html file attached here (the original one has now been updated to have both types of Cinelike)
4) Select Handshake
5) Depending on how successful your previous attempts have been the camera will accept the connection and you hit Connect.
6) If it hasn't connected first time the camera will time out. This is perfectly OK, it is waiting sometimes for a return authorisation which it wont get as we're not using the app. If this happens, just start the process again from step 1 and it will work second time round.
7) Once its connected the camera will say under remote control, then wait for it to show a live view on the LCD screen.
8) Select which version of Cinelike that you want.
9) For all subsequent connections, you won't have to do the two step handshake, it will just be > Turn on wifi on camera, connect wifi on phone, load html page, hit Handshake, hit Connect, wait for live view and then choose which Cinelike you want or select Restore to go back to Standard setting.
 
DEPLOY CINELIKE D AND V.html

OK
So for anyone wanting to try this, I have made a really simple method to do it.
I have tested this numerous times on my GX80 and it has lived to tell the tale but obviously do this at your own risk.
All that this process does is fool the camera into thinking its talking to the smartphone app and then the commands it sends are exactly what the smartphone app sends. Or would do if the smartphone app thought it was talking to a camera equipped with Cinelike D !
So as such it is only getting sent what the Panasonic app would be sending to it so there are no hacky or sneaky debug things getting sent to it. 
Again, though, proceed at your own risk.
Although I would say, if you’ve tried that region switching hack on YouTube with the 10 million key press combos during power up then you’re already brave enough to try this!
Bear in mind that my unit is a GX80 and the firmware is version 1.0
If you have a GX85 or have got a different firmware then I just don’t know because obviously I haven’t got any other devices to test it on.
 
Here we go then….
Follow these instructions exactly and you should have Cinelike D on your GX80/85
You will need a laptop or a phone with a browser, the camera and to download the simple html file attached.
 
1) Switch on camera and turn on wifi as though you were connecting the app and you should see the waiting screen on the camera
2) Load the Deploy Cinelike D.html file into your browser
3) Select ‘Handshake’ 
4) You should see the browser page change and it confirm that its connected to a GX80
5) Hit the back key on the browser
6) Select ‘Connect’
7) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera give you an ‘Under Remote Control’ message
8) Wait until the camera screen shows you a live view
9) Hit the back key on the browser
10) Select ‘Deploy’
11) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera should NOT now be displaying the Photo Style you had selected (i.e. Standard, Vivid etc) 
12) Cinelike D is now active on the camera
13) If you go into the menu on the camera and select Photo Style you will see that it is blank and you can’t navigate to other Photo Styles such as Standard etc. 
14) To restore the Photo Styles hit the back button on the browser and select ‘Restore’ and the camera will display the Standard photo style and you should then be able to go into Photo Styles and change them.
15) Repeat 9-14 to switch between them to your hearts content!
 
So, like other settings, the Cinelike D profile will persist when you switch the camera off so if you want to use the other Photo Styles again then you MUST go this process again to re-enable them.
However, if you would like to switch between them without using this method again (and who wouldn’t) here is a neat way round it.
When you’ve done Step 12 and got Cinelike D on, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and save these into C1 of the custom settings.
Then go to Step 14 and use the ‘Restore’ to get your standard Photo Styles back, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and then save these into C2 of the custom settings.
Now when you switch the camera on, you simply choose C1 to have Cinelike D or C2 for the standard Photo Styles and forget about using any nonsense about using browsers and wifi connections!
 
In couple of weeks I’m hoping to show you how you can do stuff like this and some other useful bits and pieces from a little hardware gadget that will work on the Panasonic cameras but have fun with this in the meantime.
DEPLOY CINELIKE D.html