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I have a question. Maybe BTM-Pix might know the answer. I have a Pal GX85 bought from Hong Kong which had no recording limit when filming (both HD and 4K). It would happily record until either the battery or card ran out producing one Mp4 file. Now that I've installed Cine-D it still records without stopping but it now produces various 9 minute (and a bit) clips. It wouldn't both me but they have a jump clip between them. Any idea how I can get it to record 1 clip again? If it means removing Cine - D I'll do it but how would I go about that? Any help would be most appreciated. 

I have got used to High focus peaking with the view finder although if it's a very long shoot I sometimes have to switch eyes! 

3 hours ago, Kisaha said:

Exactly my thoughts. The USM with the power zoom can be a great run n gun combo. I love the lens on a C100mkII but I do not like the wide end, with a  speedbooster can have an amazing range (13.5-101mm, depending the crop factor) and with a dumb adapter you have a 36-270mm!

BM must polish some of those edges if they want their camera to be accessible to more people.

Does the 18-135 work with a Speedbooster or do you have to modify it like the 17-55? With the apsc speedbooster what range and f stoos are we talking about? 24-150 f2.8-4?

Dunno what the vintage lenses are like to focus but the focus throw and handling of the Voigtlanders makes them a joy to use. Maybe something to consider.

23 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

Somebody, I don't know who, is going to come out with a PK4 type camera in a FS5, C100 body for 3500 bucks and it is going to be game on for a lot of people. You know it will happen. I mean a real camera, ready to shoot, not one that you have to buy a bunch of stuff for it. Sure it won't have IBIS maybe but.. No reason for these too small mirrorless bodies for a somewhat dedicated video camera like the GH5, GH5s, PK4 is. Heck they could cost only 2500 bucks, why not.

I really hope so. A new Canon C100 type but a bit lighter and taking the best from the P4K, GH5 and FS5

What is that tripod? Is it one of those ones that can be changed into a monopod?

Looks compact. Is it study enough for the slider?

23 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

I added a photo to the above post.... As you can see, i can just walk around like that as a standard tripod, then when a shot needs the slider... just adjust the knob on the right and it is ready to use... I can see it being an absolute godsend. 

Not sure I can see the photo

3 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Purely for size... I can leave the wing on the tripod and lock it to it's smallest size (about 7")...  I also don't like to rely too heavily on anything that can go wrong, like using apps or motors. (Though I assume you can use the plus with the motor?)

I don't have a motor. I was thinking of the SliderOne for size and it can be used with or without a motor.

Just now, kye said:

This is very similar to my thinking and good to hear you had positive results.  I shoot travel and family videos, and while not the same as weddings, they share a lot in common, especially getting the shot the first time and not directing too much.

I'm just putting my lens kit together for my new GH5 and figured that I needed a super-wide to capture those "wow" scenic moments, a tele for tight shots and a 35 / 50mm walk-around lens for the middle 80% of shots.  I'm tossing up which lens that will end up being, but with the ETC mode a 35mm / 49mm equivalent lens gives the two most useful focal lengths without having to change lenses all the time.  Just brilliant!

I haven't played with the digital zoom on the GH5 yet, but when I was considering an A7III I looked at the digital zoom from it and it was perfectly usable up to about 1.5X (and not good  beyond that) so there might be a bit more flexibility in there for us.  Depending on what format you're delivering in, and what codec you're using, cropping in post might also be an option.

Be aware that on the GH5 the ETC is clean in 4K but in HD at higher ISOs it has a lot of noise.

44 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

No worries @jonpais, something about camera talk seems to bring the demons out in people ?

I'm gonna try and avoid all talk other than trying to better my skills and knowledge.

On a side note, I just took delivery of an Edelkrone wing, oh damn, this is a cool slider! Gonna be a fantastic tool to keep constantly attached to the tripod. 

 

I have the SliderPlus, it's a fantastic slider but even it is too big for me. I have been looking to sell it and buy a SliderOne but the Wing looks good too. Why did you choose the wing over SliderOne? Are there any advantages?

Depends on what I feel like doing.

Sometimes I go with the Sigma 18-35 and a 50-150 (depends on the venue) and other times I go with the SLR Magic 12mm and the Voigtlander 17.5mm and 25mm. I find using the primes makes me think more about what I'm doing with my compositions which can be a good thing. I have shot a whole wedding on the 17.5mm to see what it was like and it turned out fine (GH5 with ETC mode you have a 17.5-24mm/FF 35-48mm, I think).

4 hours ago, deezid said:

The GH5(s) doesn't have XLR, only with an expensive and bulky adapter. Also 400mbit doesn't work on V30 cards while it does work fine on the X-T3. For the nicest color V-Log L using proper color management or ARRI luts by @Sage are the way to go. Also a big problem: Oversharpening of even noise especially in shadow areas... So add lots of diffusion if a cinematic look is your thing.

Dunno if i'd call the XLR unit bulky although it's isn't cheap. Works very well mind. Anyway, what I was trying to say is the GH5 is a great all rounder and can used as if it were a more traditional video camera if that's your thing.

4 hours ago, deezid said:

The P4K has XLR btw. You can use extended video (internally or as a lut or even RAW interpretation) for fast delivery with actually really nice colors and a very natural looking image with great dynamic range - but prone to aliasing and even moire in RAW video.

Forgot about the mini XLR. It's a big bonus.

Anyway, for the poster it still comes down to what his needs are as each camera has different strong and weak points.

It depends entirely on your specific needs.

GH5 - Run n gun (IBIS), video workhorse (long recording, xlrs, batteries, dc in etc), adaptability (lenses), dual slot on cheapish SDs (important when you can't repeat a shot)

GH5s - Same as above but trading lowlight for IBIS

PK4 - probably very nice for jobs where you can take your time setting up etc and want to grade a lot. Great price

Fuji - vey nice look out of camera. Dunno if it can be used heavy duty style like the GH5

Sony a7iii - FF, lowlight

Sounds like you might want the PK4 if LUTs etc are a big thing.

1 hour ago, Mark Romero 2 said:

That is a really good video. I am guessing it was shot on a Sony camera judging by the sunset at the 0:43 mark (either that or they were testing an atomic bomb explosion in the background).

Haha, it was shot on a GH5 with a SLR Magic 12mm if I remember well. The blown out sun looks a lot worse on Youtube! 

Some parts were filmed by drone. I can't remember which.

To follow on from my last post, I'd be more than happy to get Fuji if it could do all the above. It does have a very pleasing look. To my eyes Fuji, Canon and even Olympus have special looks that are just attractive to my eye.

5 hours ago, wolf33d said:

Back in the days the GH5 was an option as it was the only decently hybrid specced camera for video. Today's we have good FF and APSC specs equivalent or better than GH5. So WHY on earth would I ever buy a M43 tiny sensor again? 0 reason. 
As for portability arguments, the only thing standing for M43, well it does not work with the pocket considering its size. And with the GH5 neither cause the XT3 is better and as portable so this argument is dead. In fact I believe M43 is absolutely dead. People still believing in M43 are the same people who believed in Sony A-Mount being not dead the last 5 years, with Sony keep repeating they are fully committed to it (LOL). 

0 reason to use a tiny sensor if it is not more portable. RX100 with 1" sensor is so portable it actually is great and make sense. 
GH5, Pocket 4K, all M43 cameras bigger than XT3 are dead. 
When the XH2 is here with IBIS and even better spec and ergonomic, I know of no camera in the world below $6K and below FF that will touch it. Then A7S III and Pana S1 as well as future FF will blow anything in the FF territory. 

Anyone buying a GH5 vs a XT3 is out of his mind. The pocket has RAW so that's one thing but if you need real RAW stuff for business and work with big equipment just get a proper camera and if it's too expensive change your job.
Seriously, who is gonna spend $2000 in a GH5 now? 

 

Can't agree with you. The GH5 is the only 'photo' camera, mirrorless or otherwise, that can be used almost as if it were a real video camera. It's the versatility and reliability of the GH5 which makes it shine. I have shot whole day conferences on a a pair of GH5 camera. We are talking 2 cameras running 1 and half to 2 hours non-stop filming 4K, one with the sound from the sound desk running into the XLR unit, all on dual card slots. A quick change of cards between speakers or at breaks and it'll do another 2 hours with no complaints. No other "photo" camera can do that. I even use a GX85 as a B or C cam in wedding ceremonies. 40 mins of 4K non-stop, no over heating, lightweight, cheap...so flexible. I can stick on a Voigtlander and get more 'cinematic' shots, shot in 10 bit if I need it, 4K 50p, slomo...I can even take decent photos (I'm video centric)! It's not perfect but it offers a better overall package than almost any other camera on the market at present.

I do agree that with the latest releases from it's competitors being competitively priced it is slightly expensive. I think a new GH5 shouldn't cost more than 1500€ and the GH5s 1800€.

I see m43 becoming evermore video centric with the ability to shoot great photos. If they can produce a GH6 and GH6s, both for the prices I mentioned, with the same sensor as the GH5s (one with IBIS and one without), improve autofocus and have the ability to check focus once filming then will have created perfect small and flexible 'video' cameras that shoot photo.

5 minutes ago, TurboRat said:

You can either bump up the iso and apply Neat, or shoot underexposed then bump up the brightness / exposure in post. Also, it's recommended to shoot CineD and no Vlog with less light.

I have Neat but I prefer to avoid using it if posible. I try to get everything right in camera so I don't have to waste time in the edit suite.

Here's an example with Portrait (Dunno why it starts at 26 seconds. Scroll back to the beginning please!):

6 minutes ago, tonysss said:

GH5 - ISO 1600 and Sigma f1.2 (speedbooster) It gives plenty of light, I have no problem never ?

I have the Gh5 and the same lens set up but over here a lot of venues are dark and there is no way you can light without pissing people off! Most weddings are in the evening and at night time as it's too hot during the day in summer.

3 minutes ago, tonysss said:

No, I use on this video  "like 709" 0,-5,-5,-2,0 ,knee manual point 80, Slope 99 , Luminance level 16-235, master pedestal +10 

And lately use CineD +2,-5,-5,-2 , High -5/shadow 0 , iDynamic Low Luminance level 16-235, master pedestal +10

GX80 - (Hack cineD) +2,-5,-5,-3

How do you find the changed settings handle lower light situations and interiors? I have found that messing quite a bit with the settings can make it quite noisy. I tried White in revery's settings and the colours look very nice but once you hit 800iso it falls apart quickly whilst Portrait, Nature, Cine D etc with minor adjustments seem to hold up quite well up to 1600 and even 3200iso.

32 minutes ago, tonysss said:

GH5 - Sigma 18-35, Tokina 11-16 , / GX80 - Pann 42,5 1.7

 

 

Nice. Are you using Portrait setting?

Sigma 18-35mm 1.8. I use it all the time.

Following on from the m43 10-25 1.7 announcement could you ask if they have plans for a 35-100 1.7 (or equivalent). I'd maybe consider them over my Sigmas and Speedbooster.

2 minutes ago, eyesuncloudedphoto said:

Unfortunately, not. The L-mount is 19mm flange distance, while m43 is 19.25mm. The option for a dummy "ring" adapter is certainly feasible, but I'm not optimistic that electronics could be fitted for AF and EXIF. OTOH you never know. 

Extra optical elements or ND integration are out of the question though. What I hope for is an electronic ND filter in the camera (a physical one would again be very hard to implement). 

Bummer. Anyway, if the colours and 4k have a similar look and feel (FF vs m43/Speedboster besides) then it still could work as a properly integrated system.

This camera sounds pretty interesting. What would be great is if the new lens system could be adapted to the m43 line through a Panasonic speedbooster with and integrated ND(no idea if that's possible). I think if Panasonic could really integrate the FF, m43 and EVA1 as far as colours,  VLOG recording codecs etc are concerned they'd really dominate the market. Back when I was using the Canon C100 as my main camera I was always frustrated that I couldn't find a good B cam with in the Canon range. I tried the 7D, 700D, 5d mk... and they all looked poor next to the C100 footage. The XC10 just wasn't up to it in lowlight situations. So a FF Panasonic paired with the GH5s/GH5 sounds very interesting. Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about!!!?