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On 09/05/2017 at 2:21 PM, kidzrevil said:

Lumix 20mm ii w/ warm black pro mist filter

very nice!

I have the Canon C100 mk1. It's a brilliant camera with a rubbish EVF and a poor LCD. It just produces great images and is quite forgiving. I am considering a GH5 for run and gun shooting, docs and weddings etc. Sometimes the C100 is just too heavy to lug around all day with a couple of lenses and a monopod. It's still great for most of my corporate work but I am really considering a GH5 lightweight kit, camera 3 lenses and freedom.....still a lot of money though

On 08/05/2017 at 10:49 PM, Stab said:

 

Very nice but isn't she a bit young to be getting married???

Seriously, nice images. Can I ask what lenses and settings you are using for your weddings?

On 6/5/2017 at 1:08 AM, Stab said:

I just came back from a wedding shoot with the GH5 and there is one thing that I'm not too happy about. With the GH3 and GH4, I could use the internal mics for the party in the evening. The loud music was picked up pretty well and I didn't disort at all so was useable.

Now, the GH5. I had the audio-input at -12 db which is the lowest setting the camera does and it records fucking LOUD. All clips from the party are heavily distorted like the camera was taped onto the speakers.

Now, other than turning the limiter on (which i do not like), would there be another setting that lowers the input of the audio?

How did you find the GH5 performance at the wedding? What lenses did you use? Lowlight? Focussing?

On 6/2/2017 at 0:37 PM, Jimmy said:

Has any had experience with the 25mm f1.7 lumix?

I have. It's ok, quite fast, small and cheap. I don't like how the manual focus works. If you are on a budget it is a good fastish* native prime to get started with if you are moving on from the native zooms.

I consider 0.95 to 1.4 to be fast on the m4/3

I like the Voigtlanders and SLR Magic with my GX85. Lovely images and they are lovely to use. The Voigtlander is exceptional if you like manual lenses. I just don't really like the Panasonic lenses although I haven't tried the 42.5 1.2 Nocitron nor the Sumilux (?). The normal Panasonic lenses are just too rubbish if you want to manual focus and I feel f0.95 - f1.4 can really dig you out of a mft lowlight hole!

3 hours ago, studiodc said:

What I think some people are missing is that there are three main modes of image stabilization.

1. The default "stabilization" is 5-axis IBIS - as in, physical mechanical movement of the sensor to compensate for unintended camera motion.

2. The "dual-IS" modes use the physical stabilization of the lens (usually 2-axis) plus additional stabilization of the sensor (usually the other 3) to accomplish the same thing, but because the lens handles some of those axes optically the correction can appear more natural. 

3. E-stabilization is nothing more than applying something like 'warp stabilizer' to the footage coming off the sensor digitally, just in-camera. As a result, all of the issues with that sort of stabilization (including the crop and focus issues, if you're pulling very tight focus) are going to be present, because you aren't physically moving the sensor.

This is true for all Panasonics with 5-axis IBIS in-body.

Combining e-stabilization with physical stabilization is not usually a good idea, as it can introduce these artifacts. On the other hand, if you absolutely need the centre of your shot to be as steady as possible, combining the two may do that in some cases (but I can guess, though I don't have proof, that in some other cases it might make the problem worse). 

Usually the only time you really want e-stab is when you are turning OFF IBIS, e.g. because your lenses have a very small image circle and the IBIS exceeds that. In that case e-stabilization can be better than nothing, although honestly most of the post solutions are likely to be more effective and allow you the option of choice of stabilization method before baking the image into your file. 

Great info. I had been using E stabilisation along with IBIS with my manual lenses. It worked well enough although I didn't like the crop and on a couple of occasions I saw something a bit weird and jerky. Yesterday I only used IBIS with the Voigtlander 25 0.95* and it worked really well, very smooth and with a much reduced crop. I'll be going that way from now on. 

I also have been giving the EosPro Luts a final chance after having been disappointed before. Whilst there are some situations you have to be wary of, like a lot of sky or over exposed shots, I have found that it has given me pretty good results when dialled back to between 60 and 75%. Coming from Canon it gives me a result much closer to Canon colour. I'm going keep experimenting with it for now.

* I must say that I really like this lens and I am finding that I prefer it over the Panasonic lenses that I have (25 and 42.5 1.7). It just seems to give the Lumix a different feel, both using the camera and the resulting image.

1 hour ago, mercer said:

E stabilization will make it look more stable, it will also crop in a little, which is helpful when you are using some wide c mount lenses, but since it is software based, it could induce some artifacts. 

Thanks. I see quite a large crop with E stabilisation although when I used it i considered the shots to be pretty stable. Yesterday I shot without it. I will see if I notice any difference

So what is the benefit of E stabilisation? 

So in theory without the E stabilisation I get 5 way IBIS of the sensor?

a quick question: i have stabilisation with the first hand symbol on. Is it better with E stabilisation as well? I'm using a manual lens (voigtlander) hand held

13 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Hypothetical question to pass the time:

Would you buy this?

C100iii with the c300ii sensor, but 1080p only (10 bit 4:2:2 internal) 1-120fps. Maybe 4K to external.

This would suit most C100 shooters needs far more than giving 4K 8 bit 4:2:0

 

I'd imagine many would want 4k internal as well. The beauty of the C100 is the ability to shoot high quality material in camera that doesn't bog down your computer for a quick turn around as well as the ability to up the output quality by using an external recorder.

I was really interested in this camera but it just seemed to fail in a few areas (for my needs).

It could have done with a wider and faster lens (f1.8-4) and hence better lowlight.

The limited ND filter seemed a bizarre choice. If you are going to include an ND filter it makes sense to have a usable one!

PDAF would have been a great choice or a lens with a better MF feel.

Here's hoping that an XC20 comes along with those features.

Looking forward to see what they offer. The C100 mk1 has been great for me (apart from the LCD and evf). Could do with losing a few hundred grams as well.

VladsaysF, the only drawback with GX85 is the bad sound. Otherwise it's great value.

Thanks Ken. I ask as I have fully manual lenses (Voigtlander and SLR Magic) so AF lock won't work for me. I need to be able to focus manually and adjust on the go.

21 hours ago, Ken Ross said:

First, you're right, face detection is broken, I never disagreed with that. That's why I don't use it and advise against it. It's broken on the G85 too. Both cameras track the face perfectly, right down to the eyes, but focus is unpredictable. It would seem a firmware update should be possible, sine I'd think that good tracking is the harder part of the equation to get right. However, for shooting something like a wedding, it's also important to note the camera doesn't recognize a face until the subject is about 15' from the camera (don't hold me to that since I haven't actually measured it). So even if focus were perfect, users should be aware of the distance limitation.

I also agree that every reviewer should test it, show it doesn't work and report that to Panasonic. But don't you think they should also state that some aspects of AF work fine and are quite usable as the camera currently exists? Don't you think these same reviewers should remind people that something as basic as AF lock works perfectly as does 1-area, and could be extremely effective depending on your subject and DOF? Don't you think a fair & balanced presentation is the most effective one and the one that has the most value to the reader? As thorough as some of these reviews are, they're not thorough enough if they leave out these important points. Not in my book. 

Where I totally disagree with you is that 70-80% of all shots are outside of the center area. Do you know the size of the center area? This is not a tiny spot focus. Do you know, if necessary, that area is movable and just as effective when moved? Did you watch that wedding procession test video with the boy? He was not always in the center, yet remained in focus. 

Things will only improve as Panasonic has pledged to improve the AF as they should. So I'm simply saying the AF is usable right now and people should be aware of both that and it's foibles. God knows with all the attention on the AF, most are aware of the foibles. However I'd bet most are not aware that you can currently work around it. I won't even discuss MF and how easy it is on the GH5, nobody seems to care about that either.

I'm more interested in how easy it is to use MF. How do you find the lcd and evf for critical focus in run and gun situations?

I have shot at upto 10,000 iso with the C100 and Sigma 18-35 1.8 at a wedding. Just a few shots but there was no other way of getting material. Having the option of high iso is clearly very useful as many of us don't get to shoot in ideal lighting. 

I've used the GX85 at 3200 with a Voitlander 25 and slr magic 12mm and whilst not as good as the Canon at same iso it was useable with a bit of Neat video. 6400 on the GX85 is not nice at all! If the GH5 can really pull off a useable 6400 for then I'll really consider buying it. Lightness and ibis make wedding days a whole lot more enjoyable.

2 hours ago, eltorrete said:

Gran trabajo.

Muchas gracias!

Another example with the GX85. The shoot was a bit of a disaster! Record company said they needed the video for the next week. We had a Sunday to shoot. Only one venue available. Picked up lights on Saturday. Group arrived late on Sunday. Get to the location and plug in the lights...fuse switches off! We could only use overhead fluorescent lights! Arrrrgh! Anyway, the GX85 held up quite well all things considered.

Lenses: SLR Magic 12mm T1.6 and Voigtlander 25mm F0.95. A mixture of 4K and 1080 50p

Neumann Films, how were the VF and LCD for manual focus in 4K? Were the clear enough for critical focus?

Exactly. He has decided to sell his bmpcc for a gh2. I'm not sure of the logic in that. I'm suggesting that he looks at other ways of getting the money together to fund his film.

Anyway, good luck with your choices and project!

9 minutes ago, jonpais said:

I think you're missing the point of the post entirely.

@Matt Kieley Great post, thank you. Heaven forbid someone were to suggest that instead of purchasing a brand new $2,000.00 USD camera, that you'd be better off investing in some lighting or sound gear, or, unthinkable, watching some editing tutorials online or taking a filmmaking workshop, it would be ignored as the words of a fool. So many complaining about not being able to assign every menu item to function buttons or manufacturers crippling their cameras by not offering 4K 12 bit 4:4:4, not enough meaningful content being produced.

Sorry Jon, I think you missed the point of my post! He has a good camera, he might not need to sell it to buy a cheaper one to fund his film. What else has he got lying around that he can sell? Sell your iPod, get a cheaper phone...whatever, fund your film that way.

It's true that story, light etc all count more than the camera. It's seems his problem is not the camera, as he has a good one, but funding.

I'm not sure it's a good idea to be selling and buying new equipment all the time. You'll probably lose money that way. You have a great camera in the bmpcc, why don't you stick with that? Do you have anything else you have lying around that you don't need that you can sell? It's amazing how selling stuff we don't use can add up to a bigger sum quite quickly.

I'll up that. The greatest camera ever that can do everything for 1000€ to be delivered after the next blue moon.