webrunner5

Now that is impressive, I had a sneaking suspicion that the R7 would be good in lowlight, it looks about on par with the C70 in low light.
 
 
The Pro list might be longer than you think:
Pro:
- 32 MP sensor and good low light for an APS-C
- Dual SD (backup recording also for video), R3 level autofocus
- Multi-function Hotshoe (Tascam CA-XLR2d, etc)
- Canon/Viltrox speedbooster (0,71x) & VND adapter works
Cheap Media - SD Cards vs CFExpress Batteries - Same as the R5, R6, 5DIV, etc....if you have Canon DSLR batteries laying around they will work for the R7 Lens - Massive lens ecosystem from day one (RF, RF-S, EF, EF-S) with full AF capabilities Price - IMO very good price for what you get Overheating - So far overheating seems to be well controlled AF - Looks like R3's AF capabilities and even includes auto leveling which I don't think even the R3 has Battery Life - No battery grip but 2.5hrs recording video with 50% battery remaining is quite impressive to me I have a few more cons as well
Cons:
- No ALL-I, but only IPB / IPB-light
- No battery grip possible (as body is smaller then 2 batteries)
- Only 2 control wheels, not 3 like R5/R6, no top LCD
- Build quality / weather sealing not like 7D-series, more like XXD-series
USB-PD - Requires a USB-PD power source, not just a USB-C power source Crop - Like with any crop sensor you will always have to work around the crop Speedbooster - The Canon C70 speedbooster is $700USD, almost as expensive as the camera and it is unknown at this time if it is fully compatible with the R7.  Codecs - No XF-AVC so unless you have an M1 Mac, that footage will be hard to edit without proxies For me no ALL-I is not a big deal, I never use ALL-I due to the data rates and storage requirements. All ALL-I does is makes it easier to edit, no real increase in image quality. 
I can only imagine how poor the body quality will be, for this reason alone I would almost rather wait and test it out in a store before buying it. My built like a tank DSLRs really got me used to that level of body quality.

Great to hear your feedback on the GH6 and Prores implementation.  I simply cannot imagine a phrase more lovely than "the image basically looks like RAW".

If the A7s3 came with the processing of the FX6 and at least some of its video-related features, there would be no more reason to get any Panasonic nor Blackmagic camera let alone the FX6 at all. 😄

The GH4 was so hard to deal with, shot internally in 8 Bit V-Log L, the banding was insane.
Did some selective debanding on some areas to fix it. I wish I had an external recorder back then. 
The GH5 after was much cleaner but was way oversharpened, had ghosting issues caused by heavy temporal filtering (fixed in mid 2017 via firmware) and seemed to have less DR to me, still kept it until the Pocket 4K came out which was later ruined with BRAW and its quite heavy spatial filtering and sharpening, my original P4K sadly died and had to be replaced with a model that didn't support earlier firmwares. 😭

Since then I've been using the Pocket 6K and later S1H with external BRAW are okish, the higher resolution compensates for the heavy filtering to a certain degree. My new GH6 outperforms both when it comes to texture with its internal ProRes recording, the image basically looks like RAW, almost unfiltered. I love it and used it as my A-camera on my last shoot. 🙂

How is this interesting?
The FX3 and A7sIII are pretty much the full frame 10 bit equivalent to a GoPro when it comes to image processing.
Also usable latitude on these cameras is quite weak while the C70, which doesn't have any oversharpening nor heavy temporal filtering and therefor no smearing nor texture loss, is the best in its class and competes with the likes of the Pocket 6K (HR recovery) and Panasonic S series and even outperforms these ever so slightly with internal RAW.
 

Beautifully written!
@deezid Awesome to read from you! Bought the S1 two years ago after Andrews article and after your deep dive observations regarding an honest hq cinema image without nasty processing artefacts. Hope to see more sneak peaks of your projects. Your GH4 footage was and is a legendary treat for lovers of the little camera with the big image. "Americana" was the name of the piece. A A7S3, FX3 with the processing of a FX6 would be a uber camera though.

How on earth do we get our hands on that GH13 that Hitler sold to Stalin?!?!?!?!?  

HD 25p has always been of lesser quality on GH1,2 and G6,7,85, GX85. @webrunner5
Shooting in 4K on the adequate cameras helps, that exludes the GH2 and others of course. Or film in 24p and enjoy the classic GH2 image. Congratulations, btw to your purchase. GAS is an akward thang, BMPCC in the pocket but still you needed that legendary GH2, besides your legendary AF100. 🙂 

Pretty good comparison of the BMPCC 4k versus the GH2 Hacked. GH2 10 times cheaper, takes better photos to boot. Sure, overall, the PK4 wins but.
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agTLsPoIYis
The low light performance looks really nice 😎

Agreed. I’ve loved focusing on things like lighting and color grading. Composition. Things that actually make a difference to your image. So much on YT is gear reviews of expensive cameras, as I’ve said before we are at an image quality threshold, so all we can do is get better ourselves. I find there is a great mixture on this forum; we can all have fun geeking out about the next new camera or RAW codec, but then we will all turn around, reminisce about an old Gh1 or F3, and talk about lighting/color grading practice, with a dose of anamorphic lenses thrown in. Great forum, I wish it had as much traction as it used to get. I also miss Andrew’s constant articles of the past. 

Certainly if Mel Brooks had had access to the Alexa 35 he might have lit scene this in a moodier way.
 

Well, I just bought a Panasonic GH2 from Adorama in good condition with battery and charger for $109.00. Hot Damn.

Yeah, I saw some footage comparing the ALEXA Mini with the 35 filming an open fire and the Mini clipped on the flames but the 35 managed to capture them without clipping.  Needless to say, the cinematographer was pretty excited about it, as it meant that they no longer had to choose between exposing for the skintones or the highlights, and people sitting around a camp fire is a relatively common scene I think.

Well, I just bought a Panasonic GH2 from Adorama in good condition with battery and charger for $109.00. Hot Damn.

Well, I just bought a Panasonic GH2 from Adorama in good condition with battery and charger for $109.00. Hot Damn.

That's true, although the wider you make the shot, the higher the quality but also the more specialised it becomes.  For example, if you cropped at 90degrees it would be a standard wide angle view which has almost unlimited applications but is almost unusable, but if you don't crop at all then you're getting 6K 120Mbps in all its glory but the shot is literally unusable for anything at all.
The problem is that for any real use you'll need the quality to be above a certain threshold and the crop associated with that is only usable in a tiny tiny percentage of applications.
To give you a comparison, an action camera might have a 100Mbps 4K image and a 15mm FF equivalent lens.  For a 360 camera to replicate that it would need to be a 1,500Mbps 12,000K image.  
When I film with my GH5 in 200Mbps 10-bit 422 1080p and my Sony X3000 in 4K 100Mbps I think the action camera looks poor in comparison and I have to really treat it nicely in post to try and elevate it from the cheap/nasty/brittle image that it has.  A 6K 120Mbps 360 camera cannot possibly hope to compete against that.
I mean, I'm filming with my GF3 and its 1080p 17Mbps, which is still more bitrate and resolution than the 360 camera has at a 15mm FF equivalent crop.  This brand new 360 action camera when cropped to anything remotely sensible can't compete with a budget MFT camera from 2011.
Oh, I never said this was a "meh" update.  It's taking something that is woefully inadequate and taking it to merely being quite inadequate - a huge improvement no doubt.  But just because a kid improves their math test scores doesn't mean that they deserve to pass.

@webrunner5 Wow!
Is bonkers how dirt cheap the equipment from yesteryear has become. 

Well, I just bought a Panasonic GH2 from Adorama in good condition with battery and charger for $109.00. Hot Damn.

1. This is not a Jack of all trades.
2.
Indeed. So they're very useful if well used. They're speciality cameras.
3.
Who is he? ; ) LOL The only experts I am aware to be considered like that are a couple of 360 nerds, I guess and yes, we cannot dream too much yet but at least make it still usable under certain variables:
And here's another one to prove why despite the current tech limitations, this is more than a meh upgrade obviously for those who have 3 cameras of them as myself now going one step further:
 

 

Thanks. It was my Optivision XW5000 anamorphic lens. Not sure which taking lens it was, either the Sakar 28mm f/2.8 or Bushnell 35mm f/2.8. I can't remember which taking lens I used for the tighter shot. I sometimes used a 75-150mm f/3.8 zoom (can't remember the brand). I think some of the exterior shots were the Canon FD 50mm f/1.4 (chrome ring).

That's a spec that would get me to buy one.  
Serendipitously, they're right on track to release one when I want to upgrade my current action camera - in about 3-5 years!

I'm a big user of insta360 cameras, I have 2 of them, mostly to film myself and sometimes I use for projects too.... looking and some side by side the 1inch is definitely a step forward.

I do agree that 8k would be the bar minimum.... I think the industry stays away from 8k as stitching 8k video would probably only be possible on top-of-the-line phones and PCs.... and the market that they target it is mostly consumers. Same for requiring higher speed microSD

8k, 400 Mbits, 10 bit LOG would be the quantum leap that is needed to have 360 cameras used more professionally

All screen shoots from videos:


 

@Matt Kieley The shot of the woman on the couch at 1:07 in the first video is really nice. And it looks like there may have been a couple of other shots from the same film as well. Do you recall what lens you were using?
The GH1 is plenty for storytelling. Dynamic range is a challenge but I find that I prefer the look to most modern cameras. Here's a test (not by me) that did a good job of showing the why the GH2 (with the same sensor as the GH1) creates a much more emotionally resonant image than the GH5. At least to me:
 

I've been considering getting a GH1 as an experiment, to see what I can do with it now with more experience/better lighting. I'm surprised by the color/fidelity of the GH1. In certain situations, newer cameras are better. I recently shot BTS on a friend's short in very low lighting conditions, with the GH5. As so-so as the GH5 is at 3200iso, the GH1 would be so much worse (color shift/noise above 640iso) and no stabilization. But in a narrative film situation with more control, there might be less of a difference. After writing the above, I decided to make a reel of some old GH1 footage remastered and regraded:
And here's a couple other test videos I would have included had I not deleted the raw footage:
 

Part of it was the not quite silver colour.
It was/is one of those rare cameras that isn’t boring.